Occupy Wall Street Day 11+

deprave

New Member
The Republican leaders are stepping up their anti-protest rhetoric. Eric Cantor referred to them as "mobs." Mitt Romney claims they are engaged in "class warfare." Herman Cain is... well... he's being an idiot... as usual.

Story found here.



They are escalating the rhetoric. It's going to end in violence. I saw a sign yesterday in the windows of the buildings overlooking Wall Street that read, "We are the 1%." Hubris has always been the downfall of the privileged.
Dude thats nothing, Glenn beck and friends on conservative radio are saying that its a george soros plot
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Old school way of taking care of Bankers who screwed us all.

A.D. 1125. In this year sent the King Henry, before Christmas, from Normandy to England, and bade that all the mint-men that were in England should be mutilated in their limbs; that was, that they should lose each of them the right hand, and their testicles beneath. This was because the man that had a pound could not lay out a penny at a market. And the Bishop Roger of Salisbury sent over all England, and bade them all that they should come to Winchester at Christmas. When they came thither, then were they taken one by one, and deprived each of the right hand and the testicles beneath. All this was done within the twelfth-night. And that was all in perfect justice, because that they had undone all the land with the great quantity of base coin that they all bought.
 

DelSlow

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Old school way of taking care of Bankers who screwed us all.

A.D. 1125. In this year sent the King Henry, before Christmas, from Normandy to England, and bade that all the mint-men that were in England should be mutilated in their limbs; that was, that they should lose each of them the right hand, and their testicles beneath. This was because the man that had a pound could not lay out a penny at a market. And the Bishop Roger of Salisbury sent over all England, and bade them all that they should come to Winchester at Christmas. When they came thither, then were they taken one by one, and deprived each of the right hand and the testicles beneath. All this was done within the twelfth-night. And that was all in perfect justice, because that they had undone all the land with the great quantity of base coin that they all bought.
Haha, that's some cold shit. They cut off your balls AND your jerk-off hand.
 

deprave

New Member
Old school way of taking care of Bankers who screwed us all.

A.D. 1125. In this year sent the King Henry, before Christmas, from Normandy to England, and bade that all the mint-men that were in England should be mutilated in their limbs; that was, that they should lose each of them the right hand, and their testicles beneath. This was because the man that had a pound could not lay out a penny at a market. And the Bishop Roger of Salisbury sent over all England, and bade them all that they should come to Winchester at Christmas. When they came thither, then were they taken one by one, and deprived each of the right hand and the testicles beneath. All this was done within the twelfth-night. And that was all in perfect justice, because that they had undone all the land with the great quantity of base coin that they all bought.
And I believe, first time I heard of this but I have heard other stories like this.
 

The Ruiner

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No apparently it is YOU that does not realize how simple this premise is....
Or how obvious the flaws in this premise are, not to mention how moraly wrong and anti freedom the real world implications of your premise are.
So...are you implying FREEDOM within the current system? Are you giving ground to the recognization that things are essentially "free?" Because you have no plan whatsoever to actually make anything better, you have ideas - but no impact reports, no real tangible assessment of what consequences your "reforms" might have, thus you have plan to make anything better whatsoever, in the here and now.

What is it about actual SACRIFICE that scares you people? You are willing to "exercise" free speech, and condemn the system that grants you the convenience you are so accustom, that which you call "freedom," but are unwilling to stay a course of direct action to improve your own lot.

This is not surprising coming from the same movement that cant even formulate a clear leader, platform, or agenda. Somehow, inaction is going to solve everything.
 

notoriouszig

Active Member
So...are you implying FREEDOM within the current system? Are you giving ground to the recognization that things are essentially "free?" Because you have no plan whatsoever to actually make anything better, you have ideas - but no impact reports, no real tangible assessment of what consequences your "reforms" might have, thus you have plan to make anything better whatsoever, in the here and now.

What is it about actual SACRIFICE that scares you people? You are willing to "exercise" free speech, and condemn the system that grants you the convenience you are so accustom, that which you call "freedom," but are unwilling to stay a course of direct action to improve your own lot.

This is not surprising coming from the same movement that cant even formulate a clear leader, platform, or agenda. Somehow, inaction is going to solve everything.
promotes open dialogue. allows people to make suggestions. i don't see where that whole thing isn't clear. criticism for the sake of criticism is precisely the kind of attitude that perpetuates this vicious cycle we all seem to be stuck in.
 

The Ruiner

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My issue is that we have open dialogue, let's not take steps back. People make suggestions all the time, getting people to stop talking is difficult. Getting those same people to just ACT, and to do so in order to bring about the change they wish to effect is entirely different.
 

joey555

New Member
WHEN DEALING W/ FIGURES LIKE 99% u get this^^^^^^^^^ " VOTE FOR RON PAUL" "HORRAY 4 GAY RIGHTS" BLAH , BLAH! U NEED TO IDENTIFY A COMMON THREAD- IF I DREW U A BELL CURVE AND GRAPH WHERE THE AGGREGATE OF THE POPULATION IS- IT ISN'T W/ RON PAUL! IT'S W/ ,FOR 1 EXAMPLE, THE ECONOMIC DISPARITY. COMMON THREAD & THEN PRIORITIZE FROM THERE. DON'T JUST BLAME WALLSTREET> RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON BOTH PARTIES BUT WALLSTREET IS IN A DEMOCRATIC AREA;

FOR THE MOST PRT. NEW YORK IS LIBERAL- SO GO AFTER UR RESPECTIVE COUNCILMEN/WOMEN, THE BI-CAMERL CONGRESS ON THE STATE LEVEL. this movement lacks leadership, focus; a concise list of grievenecs or demands, who to focus on and what to focus on, it lacks organization. i commend the awsome ppl. who have galvanized and exercised their civil rights and duty....to avoid as the founders said "a long train of abuses". as a person w/ a degree in political scienece i would not be soooo critical if i did not care...........best wishes............joey
 

beardo

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So...are you implying FREEDOM within the current system? Are you giving ground to the recognization that things are essentially "free?" Because you have no plan whatsoever to actually make anything better, you have ideas - but no impact reports, no real tangible assessment of what consequences your "reforms" might have, thus you have plan to make anything better whatsoever, in the here and now.

What is it about actual SACRIFICE that scares you people? You are willing to "exercise" free speech, and condemn the system that grants you the convenience you are so accustom, that which you call "freedom," but are unwilling to stay a course of direct action to improve your own lot.

This is not surprising coming from the same movement that cant even formulate a clear leader, platform, or agenda. Somehow, inaction is going to solve everything.
Your still not getting it...
It is not a free market and you are not voting with your dollar when failing companies are proped up by your tax dollars and incuring more debt through borrowing and printing- you shouldn't be regulating companies into or out of buisness and tax payers shouldn't be forced to pay for a private profiteers failed buisness venture
How do you say i'm or were afraid of sacrifise? I'm willing to sacrifice "free" services... unemployment ,social security, defence, health care, scooling, all the rest.. For Freedom.
 

dukeanthony

New Member
And I believe, first time I heard of this but I have heard other stories like this.
Forgot who the General was in constantinople at the time. But he captured 15000 enemy troops.
He had 1000 of the prisoners blinded in 1 eye by stabbing it out








The he told those 1000 men to lead back home the other 14000 who had both their eyes gouged out
 

joey555

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listen re-structuring the government isn't going to happen unless u take a MAO approach "political power grows out the barrel of a gun" or a monumental crisis. see- my point no focus.

in elections POLITICIANS have aides that look at graphs, sampling, polling etc. think of a bell-curve on a graph chart. the fringe elements are on the sides i.e socialism, fascism, etc. the aggregate of the citizens are in the middle. if the movement wants support read my thread.
 

joey555

New Member
And who were the organizers again? Independently wealthy who?

Free sandwiches...live bands...tell me when shit gets real.
^^^^^thats my point. there is a lack of focus, leadership, organization, and w/o it -it will fall into a state of entropy....that really is the bottom line...in the end this could just be a phenomenon that will fizzle out.

How can ppl. sustain a movement w/o identifying a common thread when dealing w/ figures LIKE 99%??? The movement is in dire need of leadership & organisation. THEY NEED STRUCTURE, compartmentaization.....a fugure head/s , ppl. who can get in where they fit in as far as talents and expertise. If the MEDIA comes @ them w/ questions i would NOT WANT THE GUY 4OFT. AWAY TALKING ABOUT WANTING SOCIALISM representing the aggregate of the movement- yet that is what is happening. RESULT THE MEDIA HAS & WILL CARICATURE THE MOVEMENT AS A BUNCH OF BONGO-PLAYING-POT-SMOKING HIPPIES.
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS LACK of focus- w/ emphasis on WALLSTREET.....yet no focus or grievence about the municiple and state level politicians who have allowed the status quoe. Most of these problems STEM FROM DEMOCRATIC & REPUBLICAN ABUSES OF POWER or MISLEADERSHIP. IN PARTICULIAR, PHILLY is DEMOCRAT, SO FOCUS ON THEM- OR UR RESPECTIVE DISTRICT that is dominated by 1 party. THEY HAVE THE ENERGY but like any spoiled society ignorance rules the day. UNTIL someone like VAN JONES (black political leader) who is helping the NEW YORK MOVEMENT, Philly's movement will FALL INTO ENTROPY!
 

The Ruiner

Well-Known Member
Your still not getting it...
It is not a free market and you are not voting with your dollar when failing companies are proped up by your tax dollars and incuring more debt through borrowing and printing- you shouldn't be regulating companies into or out of buisness and tax payers shouldn't be forced to pay for a private profiteers failed buisness venture
How do you say i'm or were afraid of sacrifise? I'm willing to sacrifice "free" services... unemployment ,social security, defence, health care, scooling, all the rest.. For Freedom.

It's hilarious that you are saying "for freedom" as if you don't have any, and somehow doing away with "defence" and "scooling" would bring "freedom."

Notice I didn't say surprising...
 

deprave

New Member
Occupy DC ProtesterS Pepper Sprayed Were Protesting Drone Exhibit At National Air & Space Museum


[video=youtube;jvWWgU6cUiY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvWWgU6cUiY[/video]

A group of protestors got maced in D.C. at the Smithsonian when they tried to enter the building.


Canada and U.K. Occupy protest are coming next week, thousands gathered in Vancouver today for planning.
 

joey555

New Member
This is off topic as far as the movement and it's lacking of specified things i mentioned ^above. Ron Paul is a walking disaster when it comes to foriegn policy, the only ppl. who would want him elected r misinformed ppl.

He believes in a confederate structured government.....w/ total state rights> NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
 

MuyLocoNC

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This is all just a great waste of time. Don't get me wrong, it's looks like great fun, getting high, yelling at people you're told you don't like, hookin up in sleeping bags....great fun. But in the end that's all that will remain, memories of a good time and a COLOSSAL MESS that someone else will have to clean up, just like Madison. Say what you want about the Tea Party gatherings, they were spotless during the events and spotless when they left.
 

beardo

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It's hilarious that you are saying "for freedom" as if you don't have any, and somehow doing away with "defence" and "scooling" would bring "freedom."

Notice I didn't say surprising...
I find it hilarious that people believe they should be working to pay the govt so they can then rely on the govt to protect them, feed them, tell them what they can and can not own, how they can use there property and what you can purchase and how much they will pay
 
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