Occupy Wall Street Day 11+

And yet again you support the corporatists best freind
Ron Paul

dukeanthony said:

And yet again you support the corporatists best freind
Ron Paul

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and yet again, you show us that you have no idea what your talking about with a retarded one liner out of left field. Ron Paul is practically the only one against corporatism and crony capitilism in congress , aside from the people that look up to him like justin amash.

deprave said:

and yet again, you show us that you have no idea what your talking about with a retarded one liner out of left field. Ron Paul is practically the only one against corporatism and crony capitilism in congress , aside from the people that look up to him like justin amash.

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placing a new puppet in the oval office will do nothing for this country. we need to get rid of the federal reserve for starters. and then there's the CIA and all of that black ops bullshit and much, much more.

i don't disagree that ron paul would make a great president. however, i think that our corruption runs VERY deep. i doubt he would be able to do much at this point.

dukeanthony said:

And yet again you support the corporatists best freind
Ron Paul

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You obviously know jack shit about RP.

notoriouszig said:

placing a new puppet in the oval office will do nothing for this country. we need to get rid of the federal reserve for starters. and then there's the CIA and all of that black ops bullshit and much, much more.

i don't disagree that ron paul would make a great president. however, i think that our corruption runs VERY deep. i doubt he would be able to do much at this point.

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Ron Paul would either have to fall in line or be blown away just as JFK was. JFK lost his life for actually attempting to implement many of the things Ron Paul is campaigning on.

What do all the Presidents since JFK have in common? All Masons, all beleivers in the Rothschild/Rockefeller One World Government. They call it "Evolution". Our Government is owned by a private corporation. This left vs right bullshit is just a distraction. Every president since JFK has worked for the same family. Its called "Divide and Conquer". As long as the surfs are busy fighting themselves while trying to stay alive the overlords can remain invisible and all powerful. Ask yourself, who do we owe that huge national debt to? Another government? A teddy bear? An alien race?

Heres a fun cycle. The US gives 500 billion dollars to the world bank (owned by Rothschild) and IMF (owned by Rothschild). They do this on the notion that the IMF and world bank will lend this money to third world countries to "spurr economic development for the benefit of the people". How noble. The Rothschilds then loan the money out at interest ofcourse, thus making money out of thin air. Said third world countries often default and/or degrade in some other way. Rothschilds then send in their private army (NATO/UN Troops, or in many cases just plain old US troops) and seize all assets. So Rothschilds print money, attach an arbitrary value to said paper and then "trade" that paper for physical assets when debtor can not re-pay. They have been doing this for hundreds of years, amassing wealth, assets and power and passing said wealth assets and power onto their next of kin.

These are the same people who bank rolled Nazi Germany and the Allies through WW2 and WW1.

Our overlords do beleive the Earth is vastly overpopulated. They are also very concerned about the state of the environment. The surfs are getting out of control.....

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." —Woodrow Wilson

"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most
significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United
States to change it's perceptions." — Henry Kissinger, World Affairs Council Press Conference,
Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel, April 19th 1994

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great
publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion
for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if
we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more
sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty
of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto determination
practiced in past centuries"--David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting
in June of 1991

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson." —U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House.

Momar Ghadafi and JFK have something in common. They both wanted to abandon the Rothschild banking empire and introduce a currency based on an actual physical item of value. JFK had been hoarding silver and planned to introduce a US note based on the value ofthat silver. Ghadafi (spelling?) was doing the same, but he was basing it on the 144 thousnad tonnes of gold he had hoarded. That 144 thousand tonnes of goldis still missing to this day.

The "Rebels" were the first revolutionaries in history to open a central bank prior to a single shot being fired. That bank was provided by the Rothschilds World Bank.

fun videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O35_Ai6EsMU&feature=player_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZYfeYhQ9eU LISTEN TO EVERY WORD JFK SAYS IN THIS SPEECH. CHILLING....

As if issue like fags in the military, abortion, same sex marriage etc actually fucking matter.

haha

Coals said:

Ron Paul would either have to fall in line or be blown away just as JFK was. JFK lost his life for actually attempting to implement many of the things Ron Paul is campaigning on.

What do all the Presidents since JFK have in common? All Masons, all beleivers in the Rothschild/Rockefeller One World Government. They call it "Evolution". Our Government is owned by a private corporation. This left vs right bullshit is just a distraction. Every president since JFK has worked for the same family. Its called "Divide and Conquer". As long as the surfs are busy fighting themselves while trying to stay alive the overlords can remain invisible and all powerful. Ask yourself, who do we owe that huge national debt to? Another government? A teddy bear? An alien race?

Heres a fun cycle. The US gives 500 billion dollars to the world bank (owned by Rothschild) and IMF (owned by Rothschild). They do this on the notion that the IMF and world bank will lend this money to third world countries to "spurr economic development for the benefit of the people". How noble. The Rothschilds then loan the money out at interest ofcourse, thus making money out of thin air. Said third world countries often default and/or degrade in some other way. Rothschilds then send in their private army (NATO/UN Troops, or in many cases just plain old US troops) and seize all assets. So Rothschilds print money, attach an arbitrary value to said paper and then "trade" that paper for physical assets when debtor can not re-pay. They have been doing this for hundreds of years, amassing wealth, assets and power and passing said wealth assets and power onto their next of kin.

These are the same people who bank rolled Nazi Germany and the Allies through WW2 and WW1.

Our overlords do beleive the Earth is vastly overpopulated. They are also very concerned about the state of the environment. The surfs are getting out of control.....

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." —Woodrow Wilson

"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most
significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United
States to change it's perceptions." — Henry Kissinger, World Affairs Council Press Conference,
Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel, April 19th 1994

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great
publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion
for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if
we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more
sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty
of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto determination
practiced in past centuries"--David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting
in June of 1991

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson." —U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House.

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Be warned, DkAntny is unable to grasp complex concepts and when he is unable to understand something he lashes out at the person who said it and calls them racist....
Be expecting it...

deprave said:

Poor people can't do the part I highlighted in red, major problem...and when I say 'poor people' ...I mean non-giant multinational corporations and special interests groups..actual people ya know....

I believe I addressed most of your "ideas" and you haven't addressed hardly any of mine, only dismissing them and not listening. So sure let me break it down for you 'The Plan' a little bit for you once again.

Also What don't you get about 'Get Money out of Politics' and why must 'someone else write the laws' in order to do this? You know I think back to a time...way way back when, in the olden days before july 2010 when lobbyist weren't so powerful and yeah....So heres some more damn bullet points for ya:

*Audit the books of the major financial institutions, the fed, and other major corporations, APPLY the Rule Of Law...The honest shall survive.

* SUPER PACS - WTF - A PAC to which corporations, unions, and other organizations can donate freely. These did not exist prior to the recent Citizens United decision, in which the Supreme Court ruled that corporations must be treated as individuals in terms of having "protected speech", including the right to spend money unregulated ...WTF!

* Get rid of the electoral college and go by popular vote

*End The Left-Right Delusion, Corporatism Is The True Enemy

*End the wars and bring the troops home (including the drug war)


I mean..this is all recent stuff thats why I ask if you read the paper, and you give me the smart ellec remark that you read the most prominent news sites, you must do so very selectively or you conveniently missed the part where they shoved a stick in our ass and rubbed it back and forth on a daily basis.

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You buy shit everyday of your life....everyone does. That's what I mean "vote with your money." This is something you refuse to acknowledge: the people themselves are empowering the corporations by buying their goods and services...where do you think the money goes? What do you think happens to it? Voting with your money is a lot harder than chanting stupid fucking slogans, or espousing ideas that you can't fully articulate because YOU haven't thought your platform through. Or, if you have you decide to sequester it's obvious inherent flaws.

There was no "rule of law" to prevent what happend. That is why actual legislative reform would be necessary to prevent it from happening again...and who the flying fuck do you think is going to write and pass the legislation? The very same people that it's affecting, we have seen that trick before - it doesn't end up being what it's supposed to be, that's for sure. Furthermore, how many supreme court decisions have ever been reversed? Maybe a handful...good luck on "fixing" that.

Get rid of the electoral college? No thanks... unfortunately I actually WANT informed people deciding who gets elected.

End "corporatism?" Seriously? What does that even mean? Do you think corporations are just going to disappear overnight? How do you account for any of this?

And "bring the troops home?" Wow...that right there shows how little you actually understand about how the world works. This will NEVER happen. Troops will continue to be deployed all over the world, until the damn sun explodes. It's fine to oppose it, but that won't change anything.

In fact, you and your sympathetic cohorts will never change a damn thing because you REFUSE to learn. You refuse to accept the world around you, and you all think that it should fucking just stop one day because you all bitched and moaned loud enough. It's just never going to happen. If you want to effect a real change, EDUCATE yourself!!! LEARN how this shit all works, learn how it all ties together. Get a fundamental understanding of the American economy, and military (reading selective articles from obviously biased sources DOES NOT COUNT). Until you can actually know what it is that you're up against, you will remain ineffectual, and become even more distressed.

Yea so Im just a complete moron and your the only smart guy, vote with your money...right...take a hike man, your not in the cool kid club, you don't have it all figured out, far from.


yea, occupy wall street, its just a few dozen hippies that want to party, they have no other purpose, they only shut down building and bridges + arrested thousands of people so far, its probably just cause they keep coming back out of jail and getting arrested again..so yea they are probably counting the same people twice it couldn't possibly be for a reason other then to party...its just a few dozen people that probably just watch alex jones and fell for some propaganda. You know your right, its their fault, its their fault they aren't rich, I mean wtf, why arent they rich? what a bunch of lazy inbreds. How can they not be rich? They must be stupid, they must of fell for propaganda, THIS ISN'T REAL! THIS ISN'T HAPPENING! WHY DON'T THEY JUST VOTE WITH THEIR MONEY! AHHHHH!!!!!

deprave said:

Yea so Im just a complete moron and your the only smart guy, vote with your money...right...take a hike man, your not in the cool kid club, you don't have it all figured out, far from.


yea, occupy wall street, its just a few dozen hippies that want to party, they have no other purpose, they only shut down building and bridges + arrested thousands of people so far, its probably just cause they keep coming back out of jail and getting arrested again..so yea they are probably counting the same people twice it couldn't possibly be for a reason other then to party...its just a few dozen people that probably just watch alex jones and fell for some propaganda. You know your right, its their fault, its their fault they aren't rich, I mean wtf, why arent they rich? what a bunch of lazy inbreds. How can they not be rich? They must be stupid, they must of fell for propaganda, THIS ISN'T REAL! THIS ISN'T HAPPENING! WHY DON'T THEY JUST VOTE WITH THEIR MONEY! AHHHHH!!!!!

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You can't even follow arguments, much less substantiate the ones you make. If you actually took the time to look into the theories of my arguments and ideas for REAL change to occur you would see that what I espouse are time-tested methods of bringing about REAL change. People can march in the streets all they want, but until they have an actual PURPOSE, they will accomplish nothing but getting arrested (and that's what you get when you openly are confronting law enforcement officers). Worst part is that this is all pointless, and because there are no "leaders," there will be no summit, no deals will be made. If anything, you will get some executive order that just fucks something up, and those CANNOT be undone.

Way to go people, organize a mass protest with no understanding of how to get what you actually want...fucking genius.

No I descanted because the discussion is over. We are just going to go in circles at this point, I really have nothing more to say to you as you have nothing new to say to me on this - I told you the reason people are protesting would you like me to write you a novel or a bill or what , an official proposal is that what your looking for? I'm not an attorney or a politician, I am a computer programmer.

I feel I have stated the objectives(end corporatism & end militarism) and provided specific examples(Super pacs, the financial crisis, audit the fed, etc...) just fine for this marijuana forums and yet you can't seem to understand, and somehow I am the one who needs to "EDUCATE" and "Vote with my money"..You seem to not have much of an argument. Id like some content please. Your argument has no body, its like you have no soul.

The Ruiner said:

You can't even follow arguments, much less substantiate the ones you make. If you actually took the time to look into the theories of my arguments and ideas for REAL change to occur you would see that what I espouse are time-tested methods of bringing about REAL change. People can march in the streets all they want, but until they have an actual PURPOSE, they will accomplish nothing but getting arrested (and that's what you get when you openly are confronting law enforcement officers). Worst part is that this is all pointless, and because there are no "leaders," there will be no summit, no deals will be made. If anything, you will get some executive order that just fucks something up, and those CANNOT be undone.

Way to go people, organize a mass protest with no understanding of how to get what you actually want...fucking genius.

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On the contrary!

You fall for the corporate media hype they are trying to pretend like it has no purpose when it really does have a purpose and people are protesting exactly because of what I have written here, not for anarchy or socialism or obama or something - these aren't lawless heathens with no purpose. Look up amatuer videos of whats really going on and local news. Twitter, Facebook, youtube...the real media the people.

deprave said:

No I descanted because the discussion is over. We are just going to go in circles at this point, I really have nothing more to say to you as you have nothing new to say to me on this - I told you the reason people are protesting would you like me to write you a novel or a bill or what , an official proposal is that what your looking for? I'm not an attorney or a politician, I am a computer programmer.

I feel I have stated the objectives(end corporatism & end militarism) and provided specific examples(Super pacs, the financial crisis, audit the fed, etc...) just fine for this marijuana forums and yet you can't seem to understand, and somehow I am the one who needs to "EDUCATE" and "Vote with my money"..You seem to not have much of an argument. Id like some content please. Your argument has no body, its like you have no soul.

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deprave said:

You fall for the corporate media hype they are trying to pretend like it has no purpose when it really does have a purpose and people are protesting exactly because of what I have written here, not for anarchy or socialism or obama or something - these aren't lawless heathens with no purpose. Look up amatuer videos of whats really going on and local news. Twitter, Facebook, youtube...the real media the people.

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What's going on is a clusterfuck of aimless, angry people making signs and giving impromptu spoken word slam poetry sessions. The difference between protests in the 60's and today was that back then, those people actually KNEW how to work the system, many of them worked within the system to change the system. Because there is no "outside of the system" unless you are living feral in the backwoods. All the videos and such that I see are pretty much people causing trouble, thinking that somehow they are going to get their way with cops because they "have a right to free speech." Sure, unless a baton waiving cop says otherwise, speak up and find out. Or, maybe, you could go home and evaluate how your individual actions on a day to day basis not only EMPOWER the "corporatists" and the "government," but also PROTECT and insulate you from numerous afflictions that riddle most other nations.

You need to understand this, YOU ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS:

You are part of the problem, and unless YOU change, nothing will change. Otherwise, what message do you think the government and "wall street" are going to listen to: The incoherent one from your mouth, or the profitable MANY from your pocket that you CONTINUALLY send them?

The Ruiner said:

You buy shit everyday of your life....everyone does. That's what I mean "vote with your money." This is something you refuse to acknowledge: the people themselves are empowering the corporations by buying their goods and services...where do you think the money goes? What do you think happens to it? Voting with your money is a lot harder than chanting stupid fucking slogans, or espousing ideas that you can't fully articulate because YOU haven't thought your platform through. Or, if you have you decide to sequester it's obvious inherent flaws.

There was no "rule of law" to prevent what happend. That is why actual legislative reform would be necessary to prevent it from happening again...and who the flying fuck do you think is going to write and pass the legislation? The very same people that it's affecting, we have seen that trick before - it doesn't end up being what it's supposed to be, that's for sure. Furthermore, how many supreme court decisions have ever been reversed? Maybe a handful...good luck on "fixing" that.

Get rid of the electoral college? No thanks... unfortunately I actually WANT informed people deciding who gets elected.

End "corporatism?" Seriously? What does that even mean? Do you think corporations are just going to disappear overnight? How do you account for any of this?

And "bring the troops home?" Wow...that right there shows how little you actually understand about how the world works. This will NEVER happen. Troops will continue to be deployed all over the world, until the damn sun explodes. It's fine to oppose it, but that won't change anything.

In fact, you and your sympathetic cohorts will never change a damn thing because you REFUSE to learn. You refuse to accept the world around you, and you all think that it should fucking just stop one day because you all bitched and moaned loud enough. It's just never going to happen. If you want to effect a real change, EDUCATE yourself!!! LEARN how this shit all works, learn how it all ties together. Get a fundamental understanding of the American economy, and military (reading selective articles from obviously biased sources DOES NOT COUNT). Until you can actually know what it is that you're up against, you will remain ineffectual, and become even more distressed.

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Do you mean like all the corperations we "voted out of Buisness"? That got bailouts?
It will really suck if you don't have money to "vote" with-
Do the rich get more "votes" they have more money to vote with...

Ruiner,

Ok I can agree to disagree with you, I think notoriouszig put it pretty well, I described to you the objective and the problems thuroughly I thought, I think you made your point and in your last post you worded it the best, you think the protest are dumb and stupid and pointless basically which is actually a pretty good point, you made your point but I have to disagree, I think we have to take action your right about that, the protest can kind of be seen as the great awakeing and a time of social change, they are sending a message to everyone that there is a problem and people are listening to that message so I think the protest are a positive thing and really a channel for change like notoriouszig wrote.

Occupy DC - Day 1
[video=youtube;ij4FVCdq64c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij4FVCdq64c[/video]

Occupy Dallas - Day 1 - Federal Reserve
[video=youtube;PipinYGEegQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PipinYGEegQ[/video]

Occupy Seattle - day 4 - Federal Reserve Thosands
[video=youtube;s44K3VZuPNQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s44K3VZuPNQ[/video]


Occupy Portland Day 1 - 6,000 people
[video=youtube;Rsj2H5Jq5DM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsj2H5Jq5DM[/video]

Occupy Los angeles Day 1 - Thousands
[video=youtube;KofVTt_6jmg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KofVTt_6jmg[/video]

[video=youtube;FZr5NS19mw0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZr5NS19mw0[/video]


I Spy people with FED signs, I spy with my little eye protestors at the fed, I hear people chanting END THE FED.....Ron Paul Revolution! Ron paul 2012!

deprave said:

I Spy people with FED signs, I spy with my little eye protestors at the fed, I hear people chanting END THE FED.....Ron Paul Revolution! Ron paul 2012!

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Becuase people Like David Duke say the Fed is Run By Joo's