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ukdave

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Lulz on the narcissism bit, bro. We have the prime example of it here in the USA, in
the form of the Orange Demon.

So sorry to hear about your sis. Diagnosis of that kind is best left to the pros, or not,
maybe if you have your way. I just have known quite a few people who have it, And the stories
they told, and the lives they led would be hard for anybody, so I hope for her sake,
your sis doesn't have it. Too bad if it's misdiagnosed.

As to this "metaverse" you refer, I'm talking a bit higher realm of communication than
merely some virtual reality derived from maybe a head set or some technical device. I
was considering whether lucid dreaming itself might be a form of global communication.
Though I doubt it, but ya never know. That was why I thought you and padawan and RIU member
lusidghost should get your heads together and try some lucid dreaming you all could take
one hella nap together.
:D
I only know what I read about LD some 20 years ago, and decided
it wasn't for me. But i'd sure be interested in what you guys could come up with.

I never intended to even imply that you have schizophrenia, I hope that's not how
you understood it. I was merely trying to demonstrate the extremes of brain chemistry, which
is why I said, "It's all in their heads. It's in all of our heads." By that I meant, yanno, brain chemistry.
I never thought that you took LSD but your fellow lucid dreamer, padawan, implied that you might.
I appreciate your concern, you didn't emply anything, all you did was give me something to write about. - My sister was originally diagnosed with stress induced psychosis and then Schizophrenia, and medicated so that I barely knew her, she had lost her snap. Having grown up with four boisterous men in the house, she knows how to make a man walk on egg shells believe you me. I am all in favour of the notion that doctors and scientists know best but some of them really don't, some are Narcissistic dick heads seeking to spew their political hatred. How did the GP help me by tearing into me over the phone about my employment status for example? I wasn't asking for a job, I was asking for help. He locked me into fight or flight mode with his attitude, had he been standing in front of me it would have been a good night sleep for him. -

When the Police raided my home and made me do the walk of shame in front of my neighbours, (who love me), placing me in a urine stenched cell for a day having not been in one for 40 years, when I can no longer stand for long periods, didn't even give me a chair to sit on, it does send you a bit doo lally. I was referred to a quack, who's mind had already been made up before I even got there. I was diagnosed in 20 minutes with anxiety & depression, and given a drug called Mirtazipine which was for me incredibly strong, i could barely tolerate the childs dosage of 5mg. It was combined with another drug I forgot the name of which made my legs go really weird when combined . Because of the origin of the referal she had me down (A mistake) as a person in search of morphine and benefits, and the double speak in the letter she sent back to my GP just made me sound well dodgy, which in turn suggested to her woke colleagues that I was likely a justifiable target for a little more institutional Narcissistic abuse. She documented that I was trembling. So yes lets trust the doctors, but not all of them. Some of thrm want to rule the world they are so brilliant.

As far as contacting your mates via the dreamscape blower, its easier to pick up the phone these days. but right now i've got a phone phobia. Wonder why.

I follow my nose not the crowd, and I noticed this website seems to be a little infected with Narcissism because if you dare say to anyone look, I don't want my grandchildren or the society I live in filled with hallucinogens sold as a short cut to God, you are shot down and your words immediately covered. I quit all that nonsense when I was 17, I grew up.

You only have reality, and synthetic reality, take your pick, my point is the best experienced are earned by working on our characters, not purchased. When you see someone truly enjoying a hallicinogenic trip, its probably because she or he is morally sound, but if like me, you have been a sinner, expect a bad trip man.

I'm actually pretty ill but the NHS is on its knees so I'm not being treated as well as I would have been for example in the 70's when I could go to the GP surgery any time of day, free at the point of entry, and if the que was too long, come back later. - Nice talking to you my friend.
 

calvin.m16

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Demonized worse than cannabis? Do tell.

I heard vals and xannies were addictive as hell. Worse than crack, i've always heard that.
I did vals years ago, and i can see how they'd be addictive, I loved that stuff. But only
got to try them a scant few times. Don't get me wrong, I got into Quaaludes decades ago
too, and loved them things, wowee. :D But just never got the opportunity for vals or xannies.
Good cannabis helps w/sleep some, but i can't do it. can't sleep. Thanks anyway. Those things
are for anxiety and panic attacks anyway, aren't they? Oh, another thing I tried for sleep is
Melatonin.

Bad, bad, bad. So I buy this bottle of melatonin pills, over the counter and it's a1 mg pill. So somehow I kind of read
that you don't need much. So i took that 1mg pill and cut into 8ths, and did an 8th of
a mg, what's that, 125 micrograms? And at 11pm, i'm yawning away, head upstairs, slept
8 hours like a baby, did my day great, no side effects. Did it the next night, next day, i was
pretty damn grumpy, well, I'm normally grumpy, so no biggy. Did a third night, next day
i was pretty damn angry, and so angry wife noticed, and said maybe it's the melatonin.
I dropped that shit like a bad habit and the anger ceased. Sleeplessness continued, but
better off tired than angry as that shit made me. Only 1/8 of a milligram, yeah, that stuff
can be dangerous I think. At least for me it is.
At least where I live doctors treat you like a full blown street drug addict if you ask for benzos anymore. I even had a doctor suggest rehab. I was prescribed Xanax for 3 years with zero problems, didn't even take it as much as I was prescribed, refilled my pill bottles late if anything. Benzos are the safer alternative to barbiturates such as Quaaludes. They're also a much safer to alcohol which many people self medicate with for pain, anxiety and boredom. Alcohol acts in 3 major ways, it acts on your opiate receptors, gaba receptors and also has psycho-stimulant properties. That's kinda like having a substance that can provide temporary anxiety relief, pain relief & stimulation/energy.

I came off Xanax last year and it wasn't that bad, I do hear and see the stories of people saying its like going through hell, honestly I go through hell off the pills so it wasn't anything new to me. I'm in Midwest USA though so maybe that's why. Seems like everyone and their grandma gets klonopin in some states just based off friends I talk to.

Benzos act similarly to the cannabinoid CBN, they directly antagonize GABA in the brain which is what calms an overactive nervous system. I have been trying to get prescribed klonopin for the last 4-5 months and every doctor wants me to try a gauntlet of medications prior, then after trying them they want to up the dose to the maximum and still end up not prescribing what I actually need.

Xanax is a short-acting benzo compared to Klonopin, which makes it much more potentially addicting as the effects wear off and you need to take another dose to get the same therapeutic effect whereas klonopin has 4 times the half-life in your body meaning once a day should do the trick.

It's normal to feel anxious but it's not normal to have such bad anxiety that you think you might be better off dead. People who haven't experienced this feeling wouldn't understand at all. I do not agree with benzos being used recreationally. They should be used to treat a diagnosed condition and be taken as-prescribed. The people "popping bars" and pressed Xanax are who fucked it up for everyone, just like people overdosing on opiates ruined it for people that need the opiates for chronic pain relief. Now pain patients get prescribed shit like Gabapentin that disables your sexual function and makes you a fuckin walking zombie.
 
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ukdave

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Old Macdonald had a farm aiaio, and on that farm he had some rubbish LSA LSB LSC and LSD, aiaio. With a quack quick here, and a quick quack there, aiaio.

I need a girlfriend, think I'll use the chatupGPT dating service.

Yes I'd like to open the first cannabis headshop, not head shop, if you know what i mean, in england, be the Daddy, you know. So we can have food fights, instead of fights. All i want for xmas is my front teeth back, my front teeth back, my front teeth back, my front teeth back, my front teeth back.

Who's the Daddy.
 
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sh0wtime

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Hi, becoming lucid is a natural state I think it first happened as a kid it was the best experience I've had in 57 years. If the sensation of flying by thought is a bad idea, then I don't know what is a good one. Not always good though. i remember waking up lucid, hanging upside down thousands of feet in the air, and I was stuck, didn't have a parchute so I preyed to God to help me out and promised I'd give a million. And bam, I'm wide awake in my bed at home, traumatised, short of breath, but alive. I have no idea how i'm going to pay that one off because I'm still on the dole. When I become lucid, the next thought becomes a reality, it seems I like boobs. Be careful what you wish for. Its a bit of a sensation when you find yourself next to a massive Eagle perched right there next to you, it makes you hope its not viewing you as a mouse.
I always thought lucid dreams are the ones you are in control of?
I once had a dream where I could pretty much shape and transform everything the way I wanted.
I thought of something and it instantly happened, anything else would be a simple nightmare to me.
 

Blue brother

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I think he's taking acid too or something, :lol:. I am a lucid dreamer so I know what it feels like. It's nothing like that to me. I realize I'm dreaming and can do whatever I want to a point. Lots of flying and floating dreams. And I like the ladies so they wind up in my dreams a lot too,:lol:
I fucked Madonna in my lucid dream then went to sleep the next night and dreamt she came to pick me up from school hahaha
 

ukdave

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I always thought lucid dreams are the ones you are in control of?
I once had a dream where I could pretty much shape and transform everything the way I wanted.
I thought of something and it instantly happened, anything else would be a simple nightmare to me.
Spot on. Lucidity is all about self control. - Dignity, respect, civility - Team Healthy.
 
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doughper

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I always thought lucid dreams are the ones you are in control of?
I guess you do control them, but i don't really control anything, least of all my wild, and wonderful brain.
I might think i do. But then how's that explain freak outs on psychedelics if it's all about control?
 

ukdave

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I guess you do control them, but i don't really control anything, least of all my wild, and wonderful brain.
I might think i do. But then how's that explain freak outs on psychedelics if it's all about control?
Keep guessing. I infact, guess 500 times until you get it right.
 
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doughper

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Guessed 499 times, but then ran out of guesses.
But hell, who needs to guess if they have all the answers.
 

ukdave

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Guessed 499 times, but then ran out of guesses.
But hell, who needs to guess if they have all the answers.
Which means you know I am trustworthy, working on my defects of character, and am adored by millions, across the globe, is that correct? A simple yes or no answer will suffice.
 
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ukdave

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U have a following, then i presume?
I learned to not follow leaders.
Presumptions are best guesses, you seem to be in the guessing game. When presumptions are deemed to be fact, innocent people may be found guilty and punished for things they did not do, and we can't have that, so in a court of law its best to stick to the proven facts. It is important to know a best guess is not a proven fact, its more akin to a probability.

If I did have an absolutely humungous following of millions, possibly billions, do you think they would want me to advise them to have their children experiment with LSA, B, C, or D, which do you prefer?
 
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ukdave

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Where I grew up they love a bit of banter, they say things like "Are you talking to me or chewing a brick, either way you lose your teeth".

Psychedelics are for scientists to experiment with, not adult children who never really left the playground, who think because they approve of it for themselves, that its good enough for everyone else's children too.

What happens is people who use hallucinogens are often 'Seekers', who pine for their children who have passed on for example. They won't find what they are looking for in the devils back garden, its a trap. Just have a good cry instead, and ignore people who call you Cry Baby Buntin.

The New Seekers
 
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MtRainDog

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I sometimes get sleep paralysis, which for me starts off in a LD state, but then I can't move, and it freaks me out and I try with every muscle in my body to move, just an inch, but I can't. So I kinda moan until my wife realizes what's going on, and she shakes me until I wake up and snap out of it. It sucks.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I sometimes get sleep paralysis, which for me starts off in a LD state, but then I can't move, and it freaks me out and I try with every muscle in my body to move, just an inch, but I can't. So I kinda moan until my wife realizes what's going on, and she shakes me until I wake up and snap out of it. It sucks.
Sounds like your subconscious is trying to tell you that you feel trapped maybe. Or are afraid to be trapped. I don't know I'm just a loadie.
 

MtRainDog

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Sounds like your subconscious is trying to tell you that you feel trapped maybe. Or are afraid to be trapped. I don't know I'm just a loadie.
lol nah it’s an actual medical condition. when you sleep, your brain releases a hormone/chemical that induces paralysis. Everyone’s brain does this. it’s likely an evolutionary trait that kept sleeping early humans from falling out of trees or off cliff faces. but for me sometimes, i wake up, but the my brain/body remains in the paralyzed state.
 

PadawanWarrior

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lol nah it’s an actual medical condition. when you sleep, your brain releases a hormone/chemical that induces paralysis. Everyone’s brain does this. it’s likely an evolutionary trait that kept sleeping early humans from falling out of trees or off cliff faces. but for me sometimes, i wake up, but the my brain/body remains in the paralyzed state.
Dreams are a trip. I don't doubt anything your saying. I'm a lucid dreamer and have sleep walked before. Had sleep sex too, :lol:. Most people didn't believe me when I said that I can control my dreams sometimes, but there's a bunch of us who get it.
 
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