Ok so what's the big dealz with BHO?
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Twitch
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bull shit your in austin i was actually born there
qwizoking
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Lol I knew you were gonna say something
Yea but I'm farther north.. sometimes I make it down to oat willies and planet k on like 183
Shops farther south are damn expensive....for some of the same shit too....yea, yea I know...lazy complaints...I'll get one eventually
Yea but I'm farther north.. sometimes I make it down to oat willies and planet k on like 183
Shops farther south are damn expensive....for some of the same shit too....yea, yea I know...lazy complaints...I'll get one eventually
vacpurge
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basically when smoking it with bud, you are not only diluting it with shitty flowers (i dont care how good they are... theyre bringing the average down when mixing with oil)
you are also introducing combustion which creates carbon or something, and in most cases lighter and butane fumes and shit from the lighter.
ever lit a lighter in a very light room and seen the tiny bit of smoke that comes off the flame? gross.
TI nail for the win. no combustion, pure oil, no tiny stem chunks, no unnecessary tiny leave particles. something like 98% of the stuff were looking for to get high is in the head of the trichome. I believe if you were to dry sift just the heads off of a bunch of kief, and smoke just the remaining trichome stalk, it wouldnt get you super stoned considering how much you smoke. smoking anything else is just making smoke, and maybe some flavor... but it aint helping the high and aint worth clogging your lungs over IMO.
plus, you would be surprised at how much runs down the bud, and into the pipe.
if you wanna continue smoking like that.... try it on a majorly full bowl of ash.. the best is to smoke 2 bowls of weed. pack the ash down lightly. then smoke a bowl of kief on top of that!!! now that ash is THE BEST for smoking BHO off of. no flowers to effect the taste
you are also introducing combustion which creates carbon or something, and in most cases lighter and butane fumes and shit from the lighter.
ever lit a lighter in a very light room and seen the tiny bit of smoke that comes off the flame? gross.
TI nail for the win. no combustion, pure oil, no tiny stem chunks, no unnecessary tiny leave particles. something like 98% of the stuff were looking for to get high is in the head of the trichome. I believe if you were to dry sift just the heads off of a bunch of kief, and smoke just the remaining trichome stalk, it wouldnt get you super stoned considering how much you smoke. smoking anything else is just making smoke, and maybe some flavor... but it aint helping the high and aint worth clogging your lungs over IMO.
plus, you would be surprised at how much runs down the bud, and into the pipe.
if you wanna continue smoking like that.... try it on a majorly full bowl of ash.. the best is to smoke 2 bowls of weed. pack the ash down lightly. then smoke a bowl of kief on top of that!!! now that ash is THE BEST for smoking BHO off of. no flowers to effect the taste
Thundercat
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Some of my current supply, about a gram of most, except the purple container.
Speckled dab, Darker-bubba kush oil, lighter speckles are Sin's OG scrapings mm mm good!
Speckled dab, Darker-bubba kush oil, lighter speckles are Sin's OG scrapings mm mm good!
It looks practical & functional vac & $50 seems quite reasonable. I've seen ordinary bongs in tobacconists for the same money.
midnitetoak
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Just want to say thanks for all the advice. I wouldn't have tried to make oil without your prodding and now I'm reaping the rewards & conserving bud. I like those quartz nails but the real ones are like $85. Saw many for cheap that claimed to be quartz but look like regular glass to me on eBay. Wouldn't you know my new oil rig never was shipped- think the seller is shady. It'll be resolved but I ordered another rig just like VP has... Can't wait to start dabbing this tasty oil. Thanks again
vacpurge
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midnite, if you ordered the exact same one, I would recommend getting a different nail.... the nail on any rig is where you dont want to cheap out on. after that, youre set for 2 years until that nail wears out, or you drop the bong.
some people swear by the 85% highly educated TI nails. but others use the cheap chinese ones... who knows what theyre made of.
personally, I use a cheap TI one, but im pretty sure its real. its holding up well to my propane torch which is 3500F (butane torch is 2500F) so thats something to keep in mind.
TI shouldnt be expensive, its the 5th most abundant metal on earth. 85$ is insane.
all quartz is expensive though... but you get what ya pay for, it lasts forever... doesnt take long to spend 80$ on ten 8$ cheap nails in a few months.....
some people swear by the 85% highly educated TI nails. but others use the cheap chinese ones... who knows what theyre made of.
personally, I use a cheap TI one, but im pretty sure its real. its holding up well to my propane torch which is 3500F (butane torch is 2500F) so thats something to keep in mind.
TI shouldnt be expensive, its the 5th most abundant metal on earth. 85$ is insane.
all quartz is expensive though... but you get what ya pay for, it lasts forever... doesnt take long to spend 80$ on ten 8$ cheap nails in a few months.....
I had mates who were just like you vac, when I was a young bloke. They would only smoke hash between hot knives. No substitute would do, not even the best Thai Buddha.
'Shitty flowers' really? No matter how good huh? So you wouldn't like my WW x Amnesia that is so encrusted & the high is that good I've been offered $500 for an oz. [No!] haha
I know this is a hash thread but....I love both, my sticky buds & my BHO.
vacpurge
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honestly, no. because its bringing the average THC content in my smoke down. I get ozs here in BC for 150$ that are normal 500$ ozs all day long in the USA and at some dispensaries.
smoking it separately is one thing, and yes I would like it.
but to mix it with BHO does absolutely nothing good for the BHO... you gotta smoke that stuff pure!!
Ah good, I'd hate to think you'd knock back a cone of my finest [I save the choicest buds for guests. Showing off really
]
After putting in the effort to get such a quality result, I'd want to smoke your hash straight as well.
I don't know if it was this thread that I mentioned Lebanese blond hash. I always wondered how they got hash that colour. After reading these threads & viewing the pics of the whipped oil, I'm wondering if they whip the oil as part of the process? Best hash for taste, smell & high by a country mile imo.
Anyone know why Lebanese blond hash is so light in colour?
]After putting in the effort to get such a quality result, I'd want to smoke your hash straight as well.
I don't know if it was this thread that I mentioned Lebanese blond hash. I always wondered how they got hash that colour. After reading these threads & viewing the pics of the whipped oil, I'm wondering if they whip the oil as part of the process? Best hash for taste, smell & high by a country mile imo.
Anyone know why Lebanese blond hash is so light in colour?
qwizoking
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Ask frenchy or something....but dry sieve has intact trichome heads so unless you press it and or heat it, they will stay that way and reflect light off the outermost layer in effect creating its own grain boundary....the reason whipped bho or wax or whatever is lighter in color is because of the air bubbles doing the same thing...so as long as you aren't working with amber degraded trichs your dry sieve should be fairly white, like the trichomes..pressing and heating is what turns the hash black and gross, besides you know plant matter o2 and icky hand oil/sweat
midnitetoak
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Oh yeah that glass piece of junk it comes with looks like it'll break Ez...got a grade 2 Ti nail on order as well. If I like the rig I'll upgrade to Quartz soon enough
midnitetoak
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I think qwiz is right. My 45 micron bubble hash is a light amber before I hand press it into a "loaf." It turns tannish brown as it cures tho. I still think the taste is better and the smoke is mellower than errl but oil is way more potent. Still love the taste of flowers but I see VPs point. Oil builds up your tolerance pretty quick and bud just don't do it as well as oil does after awhile. Smoked a fatty cone to my head the other day but still ended up puffing on my wax pen to get the job done.Ah good, I'd hate to think you'd knock back a cone of my finest [I save the choicest buds for guests. Showing off really
After putting in the effort to get such a quality result, I'd want to smoke your hash straight as well.
I don't know if it was this thread that I mentioned Lebanese blond hash. I always wondered how they got hash that colour. After reading these threads & viewing the pics of the whipped oil, I'm wondering if they whip the oil as part of the process? Best hash for taste, smell & high by a country mile imo.
Anyone know why Lebanese blond hash is so light in colour?
I do get vac's point. When I'm at the stage where I'm making really fine hash like you experienced guys then I'll be smoking mine straight as well [I've been smoking mine between hot knives lately. I swear it tastes just like ordinary black-hash] And when I grow fine buds I want to enjoy the taste of the weed. I've grown some beautiful buds this year [praise be to the Bud-gods]
I love my 'hash' but I'm only game to smoke it at night. Time just disappears on this stuff, in a good way.
And I'd hate to have a tolerance where good bud doesn't do the job anymore midnite. But each to their own I guess.
Now that I know how to make oil I'll never be without a smoke ever again. If only I knew this method years ago.
I have a triple batch [about 4oz in all, done one after the other] sitting in a stainless bowl. I'm having trouble finding alcohol for the winterizing [Don't want to use iso]
Should I leave it as it is until I find some alcohol, or can I start the heating & whipping now?
I've only done the initial heat purge till it looked like dark honey oil.
I'm using a heat mat. How long do I need to heat the oil before winterization ?
How long do I need to whip while it's being heated?
Thanks.
]I love my 'hash' but I'm only game to smoke it at night. Time just disappears on this stuff, in a good way.
And I'd hate to have a tolerance where good bud doesn't do the job anymore midnite. But each to their own I guess.
Now that I know how to make oil I'll never be without a smoke ever again. If only I knew this method years ago.
I have a triple batch [about 4oz in all, done one after the other] sitting in a stainless bowl. I'm having trouble finding alcohol for the winterizing [Don't want to use iso]
Should I leave it as it is until I find some alcohol, or can I start the heating & whipping now?
I've only done the initial heat purge till it looked like dark honey oil.
I'm using a heat mat. How long do I need to heat the oil before winterization ?
How long do I need to whip while it's being heated?
Thanks.
midnitetoak
Active Member
Yup I had to stop doing errl and/or hash for breakfast myself for the same reasons. Your tolerance gets too high way too fast IMO unless you wait til the end of the day to smoke/dab your concentrates. I have gone through all the honey I made & in the process of doing another batch soon...everything is in the freezer. Not sure what your question is... You did an extraction & have oil you want to heat purge? Not even sure what winterization means either. I read that some ppl are using just a hot water bath to heat purge their oil to clarity but I just left it on my dehumidifier & scraped it all up. It did get clearer and harder after sitting in a jar for a couple weeks but I didn't do shit to it after scraping except smoke it. I didn't plan on having it around long enough to worry about long term storage because I only did just under a oz. I am amazed how quickly it all went when I got my rig & started to dab.I do get vac's point. When I'm at the stage where I'm making really fine hash like you experienced guys then I'll be smoking mine straight as well [I've been smoking mine between hot knives lately. I swear it tastes just like ordinary black-hash] And when I grow fine buds I want to enjoy the taste of the weed. I've grown some beautiful buds this year [praise be to the Bud-gods
I love my 'hash' but I'm only game to smoke it at night. Time just disappears on this stuff, in a good way.
And I'd hate to have a tolerance where good bud doesn't do the job anymore midnite. But each to their own I guess.
Now that I know how to make oil I'll never be without a smoke ever again. If only I knew this method years ago.
I have a triple batch [about 4oz in all, done one after the other] sitting in a stainless bowl. I'm having trouble finding alcohol for the winterizing [Don't want to use iso]
Should I leave it as it is until I find some alcohol, or can I start the heating & whipping now?
I've only done the initial heat purge till it looked like dark honey oil.
I'm using a heat mat. How long do I need to heat the oil before winterization ?
How long do I need to whip while it's being heated?
Thanks.
What you guys say about blonde hash sounds right. I'd love to know the method used. I'd imagine the Lebs have hash plant strains that produce that particular colour. Interesting that I've never heard of Lebanese mj strains in seed bank descriptions. I bet any seeds are a closely guarded secret.
There was also a red hash [can't remember where it was from] that I only saw once. I was lucky to get an ounce of it.
Both the red & blonde were exactly the same apart from the colour. Both were 'buttery' compared to the graininess of the brown hashes. I also got black putty [Paki I think] that had similar texture. I learnt really quick as a young fella that hash with this putty consistency was always far superior to hard grainy type hash, which was either brown or black.
There was also a red hash [can't remember where it was from] that I only saw once. I was lucky to get an ounce of it.
Both the red & blonde were exactly the same apart from the colour. Both were 'buttery' compared to the graininess of the brown hashes. I also got black putty [Paki I think] that had similar texture. I learnt really quick as a young fella that hash with this putty consistency was always far superior to hard grainy type hash, which was either brown or black.
What is the consistency after dehumidifying? I didn't know how to handle my 1st few batches so I put my oil in a double bowl hot water bath & mixed some very dry, resin encrusted bud into the bowl to soak up the oil. [sacrilege. I know]. Funny thing is is that I have something that closely resembles fair dinkum hash. Looks like hash, tastes like hash & smokes like hash. One friend said it was "too strong' [no such thing. Smoke less, haha] Can't even see the bud with the naked eye.
'Winterisation' [sorry, still learning]? Don't you guys dissolve the oil in alcohol [or iso, yuk] & then freeze before filtering? Isn't that called 'winterising'?
I'm trying to improve on my initial efforts. I ran butane through 4 ounces of trim into a ss bowl & apart from sitting in a hot water bath for a couple of hours, that's all I've done so far. I'm unable to get my hands on suitable alcohol atm.
If I've read everyone's advice properly, there's a process of 'whipping' the oil during the long slow heat purge before dissolving into a solvent, then freeze, then filter. Have I got this right?
I don't think the long heat purge will hurt at this point. But should I 'whip' my oil now? Or does the oil need to be dissolved in a solvent immediately after whipping? [which means I should wait till I've got some alcohol before I proceed]
I just don't want to stuff 4ounces worth of oil, it looks like I've got at least 7gs worth in the bowl
Thanks.
midnitetoak
Active Member
i got about 5g of black crappy hash I made that I couldn't bring myself to throw out or smoke. It tastes so nasty compared to the good stuff. Thought about making brownies or something with it. Couldn't tell you what strains are good for hash but I was very surprised how much better the wax from the sativa dom was as compared to the indica dom strain. While both were very tasty the sativa dom knocks you on your ass.
twostrokenut
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You could just start small with a steel cigar tube and just use microwaved hot water.....more like 15 bucks quit yer bitchin