Thanks, I will be adding more pics frequently........
sure you can.....overgrow them all!!
I don't, i am a retiree. Well sometimes, but not much....its not unusual for me to go 5-6 days with out leaving my property.
Ya thats the truth....thanks again...
Ya exciting times when firing up a new op...don't be intimidated by the process. If you need any help you can ask me here or post a thread in hydro or design/set-up so other experienced members can offer assistance as well.
Yep there is a shot of the Tstat for the heat mats on page1, i used a splitter and have 2-24x24"heat mats plugged in to one thermostat, you can barely see them under the 4 trays...set at 80-82f..
Thanks man! Ive read Als threads several times lol Ur system looks exactly like the diagram on the first page of one of his threads...Just Awesome!I send members there for the cloning process.....not the medium.
The Cut
The Dip
The Insert into Medium
The Dark Period
The Environmental Info, Temps, RH, etc.
Al's thread should be called "A Batch of Clones in Medium of Your Choice"
Just replace the word rockwool with rapid-rooter in any of his threads.
Still the same system......
1.Select Mum.blacksnow said:
Damn, Cant believe I didnt see this one earlier. Awesome job. I clone in a bubble cloner and let the roots get all crazy like that too before flower... Just no medium. Love the setup
BTW +Rep
THankI have already gotten some inquiries about my cloning methods.
Here is a copy of my response that explains it in more detail......
1.Select Mum.
2.Prep branches to be cut. I clean off all side branches down to the node I will leave for it to regrow from. I do this on all tops at the same time.
3.Cut at 45deg angle (or steeper) with CLEAN and SANITIZED scalpel or sharp, high-quality shears(i prefer shears) but I go through 3 or 4 pairs a month.
4.As each are cut I immediately dip them in Clonex gel, then insert into upside down rapid rooter that i have made my own hole in with a chopstick or something, and pre-watered with 5.8 ph h2o, treated with 1.7 ml-35%h2o2 per litre of water.
-I have gotten pretty quick at this, if you are moving slowly you may want to keep them covered with the humidome and mist them after every 3-6 cuttings so they don't suffer before the dark period.
5.When each tray is full I cover with humidome and place in the dark.
6.After 6-12 hrs of darkness or when I remember them they go on horticultural heat mats--not heating pads--set to 82 deg f.
7. Water as needed twice daily to keep them moist but not soaked. You know they are rooting because after 5-6 days they start using alot more water during the day.
--I water using a spray bottle with the tip adjusted so it sprays a single stream not a fine mist and water by spraying the plug at the top where the stem enters
-I do not mist the foliage in humidomes after the initial cutting--they don't need it--it will be over 90% humidity in the dome and this will encourage powdery mildew that will eat up a tray of clones in a few days.
Thats about it.
Good Luck
you Sir!Sorry but im obsessedYes dl, INSANE indeed.
Just make sure to turn them upside down and make your own hole in the plugs. My success rate goes way down if I use the manufacturers hole because unless they are real fat cuttings they are not held firmly enough by the medium.
Good luck and keep me posted!
.... I am going to have to cut next weekend either way maybe sooner.... Im setting up my clone pad right now.. Let u know when i cut thanks man!
Me tooSorry but im obsessed
Sounds good.........My next scheduled cut is on 12/09, I will chronicle the process complete with photos......and perhaps do a "Cloning 101"-Thread in the hopes of helping everyone overgrow it all
Thanks again
A very good article in High Times a few months back had VISC's cloning system in it.........they flush, and I have heard of ppl doing this, I have not tried it but it seems to be sound practice......burning up stored nitrogen to shift the plant's focus to water uptake and rooting can't hurt anything as long as you get roots in 10-14 days otherwise I would worry about the clones running their "batteries" down and becoming too deficient to recover or be productive in flower.
I had my clone zone enclosed at first but the temps and RH were not stable enough for me, the humidome solves that prob. Much greater success rate with........
Much more forgiving--the first few days they don't use much water in the dome because evaporation and transpiration are kept to a minimum, this is the only point where I have to be careful not to overwater because they will rot at the plug and fall right over---some ppl re-cut and attempt to root these--I toss them for fear of infecting neighboring cuttings.
I actually move seedlings right to veg and hand water with lower nutes ater they open a set of true leaves, and I keep the vents on the dome wide open once the seed germinates, you will rot them pretty quickly if allowed to stay too warm and humid for too long.
Lets see what I can dig up on my process that may help you and other members here.....
....2 BR, 1 Full bath......its is an entire end of my house.
Sounds like a great set-up to start, safe and stealthy. That should be priority number one with any grow.......
NP and thank you
Yes 100% correct on the sacrifice required when committing to a grow op. My girlfriend is the only person aware of my activities and she postulates aloud about such sacrifices to the point of being annoying, errrrrr. I considered breaking up because of her viewpoint on things before she knew of my intent to grow. I hoping to get a harvest in before it comes to a head, if it ever does.and I am sorry if you end up like me with the time and space for an op like this........It means all other parameters have been met........
which means no visitors, no family, no dating-unless she invites you to her place, 1 or 2 friends-max (and only one that knows about what to do so if you were ever in an accident or anything like that they can react apprpriately), no bars, no parties, no putting yourself in any social environment that may lead to any suspicion or problems with the law......i.e. no lime green honda's that you can here from a quarter mile away....aahhhemmm
I have sacraficed alot to have an op like this....sad really....its my way of compensating for the things in life I can no longer be a part of......it is peaceful though......for those that can do it (the lifestyle that is)
NP and thank you
Yikes....a woman knows, that gives her to much leverage in y'alls relationship.....I don't know where you are or how big an op but that leaves you wide open to........i can't say it, I'm sure she is great, and sane...just please break it down if it ends badly between you and wait a minute before setting up shop again.....better yet break it down if things go downhill to take the leverage away.....yikes
Its tough ain't it. Wait till somebody packs a bowl of your crop and is raving about it at a cook-out or something......talk about needing restraint....whew
Yep, that sucks. I would like to think that I don't need to worry about that kind of issue, the only person in the world that knows is dependent on it not being compromised as well....sounds like something a karmically-challenged youngster might pull.
Oh ya, I would think it is about the same for any of the growers here with anything more than a closet grow.I'm just touching on the matter as you did. I'm sure others have their stories of sacrifice too but once you grow some kick ass bud you feel better but is it worth it?...... I'll let you know in 3, 4, 5 or more grows, lol
Thanks and NP "my friend"(a bit McCainish)lol.....where in the world is Sparkafire......starting to worry about him.....I have noticed alot of members coming and going so perhaps thats the norm once they have the info they need or the novelty wears off
