Pandemic 2020

In Spain , doctors are being instructed to make hospital gowns out of trash bags , bigger the better and there is a video for workers to link to ” how to make one “. Doctor on camera showed “ his gown as he taped it on.

Most would not go on camera due to fear of retaliation, as camera panned hallways , patients were lining the floors on paper exam sheets on each side of the hallways .

Freedom seed said:

The P-100 pancakes are for particulates.

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P100/OV filters are strongly resistant to oil and provide filtration of organic vapors and airborne particulate.

Fogdog said:

Any idea how that works? Do they contain more than a web to catch particles?

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this from the Miller website:
Designed for welding, paint weldment cleaning and general metal working clean-up, the LPR-100 OV provides filtration of specific organic vapors and airborne particulates, both oil-based and non-oil-based.

the "how" i'm not sure about . there are lots of pleats in the paper part would be my guess.

These people don’t even know what they’re buying but they’re buying the hell out of it.

Fogdog said:

Coronavirus is a particle but also a hazard, is it not?

Can wearing a face mask protect you from the new coronavirus?

If you're sick with COVID-19 or caring for someone who is, you should wear a face mask.

www.livescience.com

If it's a regular surgical face mask, the answer is no, Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, told Live Science.

A more specialized mask, known as an N95 respirator, can protect against the new coronavirus, also called SARS-CoV-2. The respirator is thicker than a surgical mask, but neither Schaffner nor the Centers for Disease Prevention and Control (CDC) recommend it for public use, at least not at this point.

They are not recommending them for general use by the public because they are a bitch to both fit properly and to wear while doing much. It's something you wear when you absolutely must, such as when a healthcare worker is treating people infected with coronavirus. Or perhaps a welder who uses it to protect them from metal particles that are generated while welding.

Anybody who has them are asked to donate them to local hospitals. At least that's the message we are getting here in Oregon.

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We got some N95 masks donated , thats why my boss finally gave me one after i kept hounding her. So I wear the N95 mask when im in direct patient contact in a small room for 10 to 20 minutes talking and pulling blood and starting an IV. Then i take it off and write down the time worn and put it back in the bag tally up the minutes to 8 hours. Then it should be tossed but im keeping mine anyway should there be some way to sterilize it in some kind of gas chamber or something. Now with me being a known tie to a positive carrier i am mandates to wear the light weight surgical ones because they stop me from spreading the virus but dont help from me catching it. The paint one i was using before i got my N95. Its very hard to talk to patients with it on and my nose gets all drippy inside.

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

We got some N95 masks donated , thats why my boss finally gave me one after i kept hounding her. So I wear the N95 mask when im in direct patient contact in a small room for 10 to 20 minutes talking and pulling blood and starting an IV. Then i take it off and write down the time worn and put it back in the bag tally up the minutes to 8 hours. Then it should be tossed but im keeping mine anyway should there be some way to sterilize it in some kind of gas chamber or something. Now with me being a known tie to a positive carrier i am mandates to wear the light weight surgical ones because they stop me from spreading the virus but dont help from me catching it. The paint one i was using before i got my N95. Its very hard to talk to patients with it on and my nose gets all drippy inside.

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Love your posts amber.

The N95, I hear, is considered unobtainium right now. So, hang on to it as long as you can. Totally not where we should be, that you'd have to badger your boss for one but I'm glad you managed to get your hands on one.

rkymtnman said:

this from the Miller website:
Designed for welding, paint weldment cleaning and general metal working clean-up, the LPR-100 OV provides filtration of specific organic vapors and airborne particulates, both oil-based and non-oil-based.

the "how" i'm not sure about . there are lots of pleats in the paper part would be my guess.

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They likely have an adsorbent in them. I use those in appropriate environments (volatile organics) and they work well. The P and the 100 means that it is designed to filter particulate.

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

We got some N95 masks donated , thats why my boss finally gave me one after i kept hounding her. So I wear the N95 mask when im in direct patient contact in a small room for 10 to 20 minutes talking and pulling blood and starting an IV. Then i take it off and write down the time worn and put it back in the bag tally up the minutes to 8 hours. Then it should be tossed but im keeping mine anyway should there be some way to sterilize it in some kind of gas chamber or something. Now with me being a known tie to a positive carrier i am mandates to wear the light weight surgical ones because they stop me from spreading the virus but dont help from me catching it. The paint one i was using before i got my N95. Its very hard to talk to patients with it on and my nose gets all drippy inside.

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To Dr. Amber Trichrome wearing them sucks I agree but it’s gear that you can trust.

I have to reuse my 3m 8240 pest control masks , which I get from work ( used to ) and have no other recourse as to reuse , so I put a lightly spray it with Lysol ( in and out ) and zip it in a gallon baggie .

We would use P100 and N99 typically for pest control and inspection use , but even our distribution centers for supplies have run out , and I have been looking to source from crew truck stashes. So now that office has shuttered , I am left with a couple. This idea was just from happenstance, and is almost like I’m “ fuming ” the mask. I hope it gives you some ideas .....

Budzbuddha said:

I have to reuse my 3m 8240 pest control masks , which I get from work ( used to ) and have no other recourse as to reuse , so I put a lightly spray it with Lysol ( in and out ) and zip it in a gallon baggie .

We would use P100 and N99 typically for pest control and inspection use , but even our distribution centers for supplies have run out , and I have been looking to source from crew truck stashes. So now that office has shuttered , I am left with a couple. This idea was just from happenstance, and is almost like I’m “ fuming ” the mask. I hope it gives you some ideas .....

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exactly what i do...

La county ( my area ) listed a death of an individual under 18 ... 662 cases - ( 128 new cases ) 11 deaths.

Budzbuddha said:

I have to reuse my 3m 8240 pest control masks , which I get from work ( used to ) and have no other recourse as to reuse , so I put a lightly spray it with Lysol ( in and out ) and zip it in a gallon baggie .

We would use P100 and N99 typically for pest control and inspection use , but even our distribution centers for supplies have run out , and I have been looking to source from crew truck stashes. So now that office has shuttered , I am left with a couple. This idea was just from happenstance, and is almost like I’m “ fuming ” the mask. I hope it gives you some ideas .....

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have you seen those small USB powered UVC lights on Ebay? they are cheap and advertised to sterilize keyboards, phones, etc. If they are real deal UVC, they should work too to kill off crap from masks and respirators.

rkymtnman said:

this from the Miller website:
Designed for welding, paint weldment cleaning and general metal working clean-up, the LPR-100 OV provides filtration of specific organic vapors and airborne particulates, both oil-based and non-oil-based.

the "how" i'm not sure about . there are lots of pleats in the paper part would be my guess.

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So, you aren't talking about N95 masks but something else.

Thanks for clarifying.

Fogdog said:

So, you aren't talking about N95 masks but something else.

Thanks for clarifying.

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i think they are referred to as half face welding respirators. the N95 is 95%, the welding ones filter 99.7% vapor and particulate.

these were still available on Ebay as of a week ago:

I have found an interesting link that discusses heat and humidity an its effect on virus. Sars corona was affected at 100° - and am pondering placing masks on cookie sheet in oven ... think decarb like method. Dont know how mask material would fare but interesting read.

Virus vs. temp

rkymtnman said:

i think they are referred to as half face welding respirators. the N95 is 95%, the welding ones filter 99.7% vapor and particulate.

these were still available on Ebay as of a week ago:

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What health authorities are talking about is this:

Budzbuddha said:

I have found an interesting link that discusses heat and humidity an its effect on virus. Sars corona was affected at 100° - and am pondering placing masks on cookie sheet in oven ... think decarb like method. Dont know how mask material would fare but interesting read.

Virus vs. temp

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I think it takes a minimum of 140 degrees to kill most viruses.

rkymtnman said:

have you seen those small USB powered UVC lights on Ebay? they are cheap and advertised to sterilize keyboards, phones, etc. If they are real deal UVC, they should work too to kill off crap from masks and respirators.

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ordered one last week....should be here in a couple days

Fogdog said:

What health authorities are talking about is this:

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“Certain particles” refers to nuisance particles. The warning on the front of the mask basically reads do not count on this to protect against actual hazards.

N95 is better than most masks, don’t get me wrong. I’m just pointing out the difference. These are the manufacturers instructions.

Dr Amber Trichrome does have a half mask, p100’s and goggles in her photo. It’s serious gear.

doublejj said:

ordered one last week....should be here in a couple days

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You can also use something like this, just be careful about exposer to strong UV sources. I use one inside my circulating duct work to kill mold spores.

I believe all N95 and greater masks are being reserved for medical use at this point and people are being asked to donate those masks that they have at home or work. That applies to unused disposable types or the reusable ones too, I don't think you can buy N95 masks any longer. The reusable masks are very valuable since they can be sanitized with wipes and used with a wide variety of cartridges. Generally these cartridges will last a long time in a medical environment, but there are safety protocols established for when they need to be changed. I used to work in respirator testing as one of my work tasks and have trained those who do fit tests with a machine and purchased equipment from suppliers etc.

Many industrial places have these reusable respirators, parts equipment and testing machines available, they can be refurbished and even taken from employee lockers . They can be disassembled and put into a dishwasher with a sanitizing solution when being refurbished.