PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

c4shin

Member
hi im new to all this. stuck on 1 thing i have a pc grow box what i have made. i have 125w blue cfl in it and 200w red cfl with 2 intake fans 12mm and a 80mm and 1 120 outtake fan my temperature in the case is 85 f and i cant seem to get my humidaty past 30% any tips or is this ok i have my seeds growing white dwarf ty

 

v12xjs

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Greets crazytrain. With a dab hand like you around I think your mate will do very nicely.

Much appreciated Phase. Saw some skillful fimming in your thread too mate. Nice work.

Hey ms. The train adapter is a very cool idea. Very easy to wire with total control over the power delivery. They will handle all the fans you can throw at them as well I would think.

Hey c4shin
Welcome to RIU. Hope you come from the red side of town.
I'm guessing those are equivalent wattages for your lamps as a 125w bulb fills my case on its own.
Your humidity is a little low at 30%. It's prolly because the air is staying in the case a bit too long and drying out. Try using the 80mm fan as an additional exhaust to get the hot air out faster, that should raise the humidity and lower the temp at the same time.
 

v12xjs

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Hi ms.
The VK is from Barneys Farm. I've not smoked any yet but all the signs so far are good. It has an enchanting smell close up, but once the case is closed it is a very low odour strain. The 3 I've popped have all been very easy to grow and seem fine on both low and high doses of nutes with no signs of deficiency or overfeeding. Germ rates are currently at 100% so I have no complaints. My only concern would be with the mutant I got, but other than that I'm a happy camper and I can't wait to try it. The trichs have been cloudy since day 1 :)

Hey tags.
I can't get a pic just now but I'll post a couple tomorrow.
 

c4shin

Member
yer im a red :D and ill give it a shot with the 80mm fan. o and 1 more thing lol how long should i veg for in a pc case seen sum 1 say till its 6 inch but that seems abit small to me would u say 4 weeks veg then 8 week flowering ty :D
 

tags

Member
Hey V12, another quick Q, how do u rate the canna coco? And what did you pay for a 50L bag?

Cheers
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v12xjs

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My pleasure ms. I should have mentioned I got mine from picknmix.

Welcome aboard SICC.

Hey tags.
If you veg for 4 weeks and switch the lights, it will take a further week or 2 for the plant to show it's first flower, which would mean 6 weeks of veg really. Personally I only consider the plant to be showing sex at that point and I wait a further 10 - 14 days until it is putting out pistils instead of leaves before I commence counting down the flowering time. That could mean up to 8 weeks of vegging for you.
There's also an issue where the plant freaks out after going to 12/12 overnight that's called the stretch. They will at least double in size within a couple of weeks of switching, even more if there's some sativa in the genetics.
To save aggro I start them off under 12/12 and give them plenty of LST. The stretch gets them where they need to be and ensures they can finish in the case.
There's pro's & cons to coco. I'm doing ok in it but I suspect I'd be getting similar results with soil and perlite. I like the fact that I can just fill a pot with it and stick a plant in, rather than rinsing perlite and having to blend it with soil every time I repot something. On the other hand, once the plants get into their stride they need watering every day and I can't always look in on them that often.
I think if you choose coco you should get the coco specific nutes as well as there seems to be an abundance of potassium in there that could cause problems with soil or hydro nutes. I paid £12 for 50L of canna coco.
Wasn't sure exactly what you were looking for with the pics of the reflector, but here's a couple I took:







EDIT: Just in case you wondered about the gap between the 2 reflectors, I did it because a single reflector above seems to focus the light directly below the bulb and it singed a couple of buds. The gap just stops that from happening and shouldn't really be needed for cfl's.
 

shibby2009

Active Member
i gotta ask are you growing inside a pc case i mean the tower where the motherboards supposed to be inside? i could do that too but i dont know if its a good idea? is it working great and what kind of lights are you using mate cheers :)
 

v12xjs

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Greets shibby
It's just a plain old tower case with all the gubbins removed. Works great for me. I've just changed to a CMH bulb but used cfl's to great effect for a long time before that.
 

jjmd

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V12,
I am going to ask the questions no one else is willing to ask. How much to just build the dam box and ship it to me? If you haven't thought about it then maybe a new bussines venture just openned up for you. LOL

I can see what MS has been talkin about with your grow. Really nice!!!!
I am just joking about buying a box from you, but if you do start the biz, just remember where the idea came from. LMAO
 

c4shin

Member
gl with the flowering m8 :D its my 1st grow in a pc case its good for me coz i have ppl in and out my house all the time. going to get a grow tent after i get the hang of it. but i wish u all the gl with your grows :D
 

tags

Member
My pleasure ms. I should have mentioned I got mine from picknmix.

Welcome aboard SICC.

Hey tags.
If you veg for 4 weeks and switch the lights, it will take a further week or 2 for the plant to show it's first flower, which would mean 6 weeks of veg really. Personally I only consider the plant to be showing sex at that point and I wait a further 10 - 14 days until it is putting out pistils instead of leaves before I commence counting down the flowering time. That could mean up to 8 weeks of vegging for you.
There's also an issue where the plant freaks out after going to 12/12 overnight that's called the stretch. They will at least double in size within a couple of weeks of switching, even more if there's some sativa in the genetics.
To save aggro I start them off under 12/12 and give them plenty of LST. The stretch gets them where they need to be and ensures they can finish in the case.
There's pro's & cons to coco. I'm doing ok in it but I suspect I'd be getting similar results with soil and perlite. I like the fact that I can just fill a pot with it and stick a plant in, rather than rinsing perlite and having to blend it with soil every time I repot something. On the other hand, once the plants get into their stride they need watering every day and I can't always look in on them that often.
I think if you choose coco you should get the coco specific nutes as well as there seems to be an abundance of potassium in there that could cause problems with soil or hydro nutes. I paid £12 for 50L of canna coco.
Wasn't sure exactly what you were looking for with the pics of the reflector, but here's a couple I took:







EDIT: Just in case you wondered about the gap between the 2 reflectors, I did it because a single reflector above seems to focus the light directly below the bulb and it singed a couple of buds. The gap just stops that from happening and shouldn't really be needed for cfl's.

Thanks again for the info. I was asking about the reflectors cos i went on the pets @ home site and found ones that didnt really look up to the job. Yours, however, look very different to the ones on the website. This pick n mix you and ms have mentioned. Is it secure/reliable/good value?

Cheers
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v12xjs

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Thanks jjmd.
Times are tough all over so maybe you are onto something there. Just quote the discount code jjmdriu at the checkout :)

That's great news Phase, hope you have some pics up. I'll check out your update. Props for growing through the night, it's a shrewd move.

picknmix are discreet and reliable, suitable for pikeys like me too as they sell single seeds :)

Just used the last of the camera battery to get a couple of pics. Just plants this time :)
The NL is hanging to dry so it's all Kush now. There's a little one just out of sight behind Trinity and another in a wet towel so it's all pretty quiet again for a week or 2.







Oh and a hilarious story from Canada reported on the BBC news today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8528672.stm
 

tags

Member
Thanks jjmd.
Times are tough all over so maybe you are onto something there. Just quote the discount code jjmdriu at the checkout :)

That's great news Phase, hope you have some pics up. I'll check out your update. Props for growing through the night, it's a shrewd move.

picknmix are discreet and reliable, suitable for pikeys like me too as they sell single seeds :)

Just used the last of the camera battery to get a couple of pics. Just plants this time :)
The NL is hanging to dry so it's all Kush now. There's a little one just out of sight behind Trinity and another in a wet towel so it's all pretty quiet again for a week or 2.







Oh and a hilarious story from Canada reported on the BBC news today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8528672.stm
Glad to hear picknmix is rated by an experienced grower like yourself, do you pay by card? Any strain in particular you would recommend for a first time cabinet/pc grow? Had a read at that article in uni today, nice find V12 haha
Cheers
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jjmd

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I went out today and purchased one of the type of lights that you are using. I now see why you need to have so many fans. I placed in my clone box and wow temps over 95 easy. I may need to try that light out in a diffrent way.
 

v12xjs

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Greets tags
Easiest to grow have been this Violator Kush and Ice Cream. Blueberry would also be well suited, but pending a smoke test I'd plump for the kush out of the 3 as it doesn't really smell while growing.
I use a prepay card with no ID check. o2 do a good deal or search on prepay gift cards.
FWIW about 10 miles out of Manchester on the East Lancs road there's a town called Leigh with a head shop that sells seeds over the counter, it's on Bradshawgate. I don't know what seedbanks are represented but cash sales leave no trails.

Grats on the new light jjmd.
I did say it was hot. The info with mine says it's fine in an enclosed fitting if that helps. The polycarb sheet I use keeps most of it at bay TBH.
I sure hope you can find a use for it.
 
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