Brazko
Well-Known Member
yeah, I was only agreeing with you
.......My IQ is 45 and I didn't even have to take the teST 
Dito for the aforemention statement you've made as well.........
People with higher IQs are less likely to believe in God, according to a new study.
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.......My IQ is 45 and I didn't even have to take the teST Dito for the aforemention statement you've made as well.........
misshestermoffitt
New Member
Saying the word CELL isn't an explaination of anything. So humans have cells, big deal, animals have cells, plants have cells, bacteria are cells.
How is this an explaination? Do you even know what an explaination is? I can see how you only have an IQ of 45, It's a wonder you haven't died blowdrying your hair in the shower. Hair has cells, let's call that an explanation on why a supreme being would make a world built on carnage, because hair has cells.
Once again
Why would a supreme being create a world based on carnage?
How is this an explaination? Do you even know what an explaination is? I can see how you only have an IQ of 45, It's a wonder you haven't died blowdrying your hair in the shower. Hair has cells, let's call that an explanation on why a supreme being would make a world built on carnage, because hair has cells.
Once again
Why would a supreme being create a world based on carnage?
Originally Posted by Brazko
well miss, I Was compelled at first to answer it blatanly (lm), but like I said it would hinder you more in understanding,
I gave a very tangible and excuse me, speaking on your behalf a very knowlegable background perhaps of the subject matter (cells), I asked you only to re-discover it once again.........
If my answer is not adequate for you, you'll ask another, which in turn will bring about another,......until everything possilbly exhausted is discussed and you'll still have questions......but if you want the answer, it's easier to gather up all the other questions on the way while trying to understand what is most important 2 you (hm).......how you like that one
You should've started learning about cells in about the 5th grade, also they begin teaching you how to read in kindergarten, ABC's, Spell your name, etc....... as well.........
WTF i'm talking about, well obviously you have no clue, b/c it doesn't exist in your scope of thinking, here let me help make your arguement logical....Brazko: Hi, I'm from the Greater First Baptist Petecostal Non Denomination Living Waters HOly Alliance for Jesus, would you come to him, HesterMoffit: Get the Fuck off my lawn (now you and I both make sense)....you follow that, all better for you now..........
Jointsmith
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Ah the old Carnage Argument, spanner in the works.Saying the word CELL isn't an explaination of anything. So humans have cells, big deal, animals have cells, plants have cells, bacteria are cells.
How is this an explaination? Do you even know what an explaination is? I can see how you only have an IQ of 45, It's a wonder you haven't died blowdrying your hair in the shower. Hair has cells, let's call that an explanation on why a supreme being would make a world built on carnage, because hair has cells.
Once again
Why would a supreme being create a world based on carnage?
ok try this one out for size..... People with Higher IQ's are less likely to believe in a Benevolent AND Omnipotent God......
...That works I guess.
misshestermoffitt
New Member
It's more like people with a rational thought process are less likely to believe in fairy tales.
Brazko
Well-Known Member
Saying the word CELL isn't an explaination of anything. So humans have cells, big deal, animals have cells, plants have cells, bacteria are cells.
How is this an explaination? Do you even know what an explaination is? I can see how you only have an IQ of 45, It's a wonder you haven't died blowdrying your hair in the shower. Hair has cells, let's call that an explanation on why a supreme being would make a world built on carnage, because hair has cells.
Once again
Why would a supreme being create a world based on carnage?
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,Ok, this is a remedial course, Re educate yourelf on Cells, like you said, they are everywhere, including the first organism being unicellular(1),
And cells can but may not independently explain carnage, it was a starting point I presented, not just for Your Sake, but for everyone that read it, believe me some people get it, some don't, some will do the research, while others just continue the same blab, b/c that's all they know......
Sorry, I won't explain it to you, I'm dumb remember.......... IQ= (45)
i jus mite make you stoopid or sumting
Drgreenz
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I have had numerous IQ test done proffesionally from the time I was 17 when i scored the highest MSAT(Minnesota Standard Assessment Test) score ever recorded, through now(24) each time it was from 149-151. I have served in the US Army infantry(from which I was medically retired at age 22 due to injuries while in Iraq) and earned a dual bachelors in political science and constitutional law and am currently working towards a masters. I DO believe in god, maybe not every detail of the christian bible but in god definately, also, if you look at the complete charts and studies done on IQ vs. religious belief, they almost allways indicate that yes people with IQ's ranging from 100-120(average in america is 110) have a decreased faith however those with an IQ above 120 tend to again have a much higher standard of belief. Iam not saying that the average person is ignorant, maybe just ill informed also, if you quote a study research the entire findings and who has conducted it and you will almost always get an idea of why they are reporting the findings they are.
Jointsmith
Well-Known Member
MHM just doesn't get that you can believe in 'God' without believing in some religous dogma...
Drgreenz
Well-Known Member
It's easy, you stop going to church, stop listening to how you "should" believe and look for yourself. What gives a preacher the right to tell you how to believe and when to believe it? Because they have an understanding of the bible/torah? Because they have studied it? Well I say study it for yourself, idk how many times i have heard people quote a line from the bible and have turned it around on them by simply quoting that entire paragraph they are reffering to. You see, everyone, no matter who they are or how good they want to be, has an agenda and will both conciously and sub-conciously argue and scue facts to promote that agenda. I am saying go research for yourself.....
Did you know cannabis was used in almost all early christian jewish and muslim ceramonies?
Bet your preacher/rabi wont tell you that?
FLoJo
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this has turned into a redundant dick.. i mean iq measuring competition..
yes space and man down to the cell is infinitely complex, and breaks down much further than our understanding (mandelbrot fractals) and that goes for the same when expanding into the vacuum of space
and yes it is a tough question to answer when speaking about the way humans are carnal.. but that is not just humans, that is every life form, and that is not just life forms either, it happens in non life forms as well..
just as the croc swallows the water buffalo and extracts the energy to keep itself going, as does our earths crust swallow land at the tectonic plates and turns it back to liquid magma, that is then recycled through volcanic eruptions from the depths of the ocean to the tops of mountains..
just as man conquers and expands the life and land around him, so do the galaxies that are constantly expanding and absorbing matter, planets colliding, and black holes swallowing the space around them...
the point is that this argument should not be an argument, simply because it is a matter of opinion, and since we are all future mensa members, we obviously know the fallacy of any philisophical argument.. well any argument for that matter.. and that is that if you know how to shift the debate from one point to another, each point can be indefinitely argued from every different angle, thus never reaching a logical conclusion
some will look at the cyclical nature of the universe and will see a magnificient creation that was birthed from divine intervention, others will look at the destructive nature of the universe and see a cynical redundancy deprived of a fair balance, while others still will look at the universe and see a constantly growing evolving collection of atoms that occured from nothingness and be happy with that.
nobody can prove the theory of god, nobody can prove the theory wrong.. nobody can prove the theory of evolution, nobody can prove it wrong, nobody can prove the theory of intelligent extra terrestreal life, and nobody can prove it wrong..hell nobody can prove any theory right or wrong because they are only theorys until something better comes along..
so what im trying to say is fuck all of your IQs, prove me wrong LOL
FLo
yes space and man down to the cell is infinitely complex, and breaks down much further than our understanding (mandelbrot fractals) and that goes for the same when expanding into the vacuum of space
and yes it is a tough question to answer when speaking about the way humans are carnal.. but that is not just humans, that is every life form, and that is not just life forms either, it happens in non life forms as well..
just as the croc swallows the water buffalo and extracts the energy to keep itself going, as does our earths crust swallow land at the tectonic plates and turns it back to liquid magma, that is then recycled through volcanic eruptions from the depths of the ocean to the tops of mountains..
just as man conquers and expands the life and land around him, so do the galaxies that are constantly expanding and absorbing matter, planets colliding, and black holes swallowing the space around them...
the point is that this argument should not be an argument, simply because it is a matter of opinion, and since we are all future mensa members, we obviously know the fallacy of any philisophical argument.. well any argument for that matter.. and that is that if you know how to shift the debate from one point to another, each point can be indefinitely argued from every different angle, thus never reaching a logical conclusion
some will look at the cyclical nature of the universe and will see a magnificient creation that was birthed from divine intervention, others will look at the destructive nature of the universe and see a cynical redundancy deprived of a fair balance, while others still will look at the universe and see a constantly growing evolving collection of atoms that occured from nothingness and be happy with that.
nobody can prove the theory of god, nobody can prove the theory wrong.. nobody can prove the theory of evolution, nobody can prove it wrong, nobody can prove the theory of intelligent extra terrestreal life, and nobody can prove it wrong..hell nobody can prove any theory right or wrong because they are only theorys until something better comes along..
so what im trying to say is fuck all of your IQs, prove me wrong LOL
FLo
Brazko
Well-Known Member
there we go, we started unicellular and now we have multi cellular......... that is not carnage (death), that's life.......
although free will isn't something I believe that was giving, we already had it, It was only made aware to us ............no one can take your life, remember the fictious story of the man who laid his life down...........Shit, guess I shouldn't have said that, I'm going to have'em all screwed up NOW
Brazko
Well-Known Member
damn, FloJo..... IQ
.............*( I wouldn't wasted my
finger strokes in explaining that tho' let'em figure it out)
CrackerJax
New Member
Theories need evidence..... doh. Religion doesn't have any.. hence....
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Jointsmith
Well-Known Member
God and Religion, are they one and the same?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
CrackerJax
New Member
On earth, they are the same statistically speaking.
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Brazko
Well-Known Member
Very true indeed, b\c it doesn't matter if you are a religious freak or a stubborn atheist, neither will open themselves to reason, so in all honesty I view both groups identical, different talk but doing the same walk, stuck on stupid..........it doesn't matter either, those statistics will and have already began to fall........it's not like there is a choice in the matter if you will understand or not, just a matter of time........On earth, they are the same statistically speaking.
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CrackerJax
New Member
I am an atheist BECAUSE of my reasoning power. I cannot believe in things not in evidence. I certainly cannot adopt a view which is derived form a pre-scientific age.
I lean towards events that have a certitude.
If some supreme being showed up tomorrow, I would not go into denial about it.
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I lean towards events that have a certitude.
If some supreme being showed up tomorrow, I would not go into denial about it.
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Brazko
Well-Known Member
so when we say observe the things around you, not just the sun and earth, but the universe.....why refusal, when a person says God, in your words is not a seperate supreme being, that is going to whisk down and save you, why tell them no he is, so that is why I dont believe it,.......you are being stubborn.........doesn't matter what you call yourself,.............christian, atheist, etc........I am an atheist BECAUSE of my reasoning power. I cannot believe in things not in evidence. I certainly cannot adopt a view which is derived form a pre-scientific age.
I lean towards events that have a certitude.
If some supreme being showed up tomorrow, I would not go into denial about it.
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what is different isn't always wrong or right, but being open will allow true reasoning to be found.............
to understand quickly, Atheist meant devil worshipper, I never looked it up, that was just a general term for those who may not have been educated to it's true meaning, just as the term God.....
after being on this site, I was like shit, I'm a devil worshipper, not really, but I could identify myself as an Atheist, by its true reasoned definition....the only thing is, I found it to be no different than its so described counterpart............religion,
peace cj......i'll holla
p.s. I keep hearing all this weak minded shit talk, but understand only a weak minded person will address another weak minded person.......So stay your place be-otch