Swisher Sweet
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What reading on my meter is ideal for plants? 5, 7, 8 4 or what reading.
PH Levels?
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ChronicTron
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5.5 hydro 6.5 soil last time i did a grow i used distilled water only so there would be no major flux in feeding.
iampolluted
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View attachment 1161214 here's a handy chart to go by.
mistaphuck
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here's an easier one to go by
Spanishfly
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These charts are all a fiction - plants all have a massively wide tolerance to pH, or they just would not have evolved - just give them water and ferts and STOP FRETTING !!!
But people who can´t get an ounce a plant will keep warning me about NEWT lockout or some such rubbish that I will ignore as I harvest a pound a plant.
But people who can´t get an ounce a plant will keep warning me about NEWT lockout or some such rubbish that I will ignore as I harvest a pound a plant.
iampolluted
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you're telling me there is no such thing as nute lockout? got any proof? i suppose you can't overfeed them either...
Spanishfly
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No proof whatever, apart from PROOF OF THE PUDDING. All these kids who warn me about NEWT lockout never seem to yield much is all.
Overfeed?? What point are you making? I haven´t a clue, just give mine loads and harvest loads. Sorry to annoy you by getting massive yields without a silly little pH meter.
iampolluted
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the point i'm trying to make is that your conditions aren't his conditions. you fail to realize you're not growing HIS weed, he is. he doesn't have your soil, or your nutrients. i don't care that you don't use a ph meter. in fact i'm glad you don't have to. it means you are making your own soil more than likely.....wouldn't know, don't know you or anything you've done, so your advice is based on opinion rather than fact as much as i can gather. what i mean by overfeeding is that with high concentrations of some nutrients, other nutrients aren't able to be absorbed (lockout)...but i suppose that's bullshit too.
Spanishfly
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Don´t really get your point. My plants are what I have, seem to be doing very well indeed without any pH rubbish.
This one has 20+ lovely colas - the folks who tell me I should be looking for NEWT lockout - who the f**k cares, these are pretty good to me.
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All the people who warn me about NEWT lockout only produce little midgets.
iampolluted
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we are all glad you're a pot god. A). you're growing outdoors in spain. B). he's probably in a fucking closet in oregon or washington. C). as i said before, YOUR conditions and skill level are NOT his. if you can't post a response to answer his question wtf are you posting in the thread for? aside from NOT answering his questions, you make him feel like he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing because he asked a legitimate question. it seems you're more out to say, "if you aren't doing the way i'm doing it you're wasting your time." when in reality you're looking for an ego boost and nothing more, and you're sure as fuck not offering any sound advice in THIS thread.
again....we don't give a fuck about YOUR plants.....he asked a question about ph for HIS plants.
again....we don't give a fuck about YOUR plants.....he asked a question about ph for HIS plants.
ChronicTron
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see arguments and insanity dude if screw charts and graphs but mainly this Fly that says it dont matter Ideal Ph for hydro 5.5 ideal Ph for soil 6.5 ask some of the more sane lax people on here hell even the charts confirm it.
Spanishfly
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OK great, the ideal pH for soil is 6.5. Whatever - my plants don´t know that. And the fact that I get good yields without a pH meter somehow makes me INSANE?? Me and my old grandad - he got brilliant tomatoes and never knew what pH was.
I think there is only one person insane around here.
iampolluted
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let me ask you this fly.....where do you get your soil? store bought, homemade, or out of your backyard?
Spanishfly
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iampolluted, happy to answer that. I actually reprocess my soil - last year's goes into my composter along with the roots, green and brown materials are added as they become available, it is mixed and watered regularly - after a year or so a brown humus comes out of the bottom, rich in humic acid and beneficial bacteria. I add manures and drainage agents and lime - makes an excellent growing base material. As the volume gets used up I replenish with peat and/or forest product. Works well for me.
I do work hard at getting conditions right for my plant(s) - but endlessly fiddling with pH is not one of the things I do.
iampolluted
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i bet if you took away the lime and added more manure your mix wouldn't work so well. shit(nutrients) lowers the ph in most cases, lime raises it, and stabilizes it. i bet there was a good bit of knowledge, or a lot of trial and error to get the mixture right to provide everything a plant needs. the thing is, the OP asked about ph, he didn't say whether he was in soil or hydro, or store bought soil, store bought organic, backyard dirt, clay, rockwool, nft, bubble buckets, aero...nothing for us to go by. i gave him a little chart to go to get an idea of what range he should be aiming for. since you don't grow in hydro, how would you know what to give them without overdoing it? would ya dump an entire bottle of nutrients into the pot? no! if he's lacking dirt, your method won't work, and PH IS relative at that point. which is the point i've been trying to make all along.
I had 3 plants that were three weeks old all the same seed, soil, light etc. one of the plants was canoeing/shriveling bad. i tested ph of the runoff after watering all with 6.5 ph water and the sick plant had a very low ph reading. i flushed the sick one with RO water and after a week trimmed all sick leaves. now at 5 weeks, the sick plant has no signs of anything wrong. This worked for me when i had a problem, but if the plants look healthy, i dont stress the PH levels that much and i only water with RO water now. Hope my story might help some of you that may seem to have the same problem i had.
mistaphuck
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first you dont flush and now you dont check ph? are you sure your just not hella lucky with your greenthumb spanish? I mean I usually wing it too but I still recognize that what the pros say is true.
ChronicTron
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me and my grandpa blah blah blah dud wat do u think your doing when u go thru that composting and fertz and lime and wha not ur balancing ur pH. ive read some of ur post and even found a few helpful but try to cut back on th posting just for the say of posting and when some one make a comment on them stop with the PMS
i mean look at kevin 2035 post in going on 3 years u got more than half that in like 3 months and if ur just one of thoes people that like to "hear themselves talk" go blog or something hell prop up a chair in the middle of ur garden and start a blog look at the question first though whats the IDEAL pH for soil not who does and doesnt use meters or fertz or grandpas bed pan contents answer the Q? or move along. dont be a post whore its not a good look.
i mean look at kevin 2035 post in going on 3 years u got more than half that in like 3 months and if ur just one of thoes people that like to "hear themselves talk" go blog or something hell prop up a chair in the middle of ur garden and start a blog look at the question first though whats the IDEAL pH for soil not who does and doesnt use meters or fertz or grandpas bed pan contents answer the Q? or move along. dont be a post whore its not a good look.
Highlanders cave
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Some strains are more prone to nute lock out then others (not newt) ie...my ice strain suffers from calcium def big time when ph levels are to low.
I have seen a couple of this guys post and he is just an ass who has to brag (small penis syndrome I'm sure) but if the fooker really is from Spain he better not ever come face to face with Highlander, I hate those little f ers
I have seen a couple of this guys post and he is just an ass who has to brag (small penis syndrome I'm sure) but if the fooker really is from Spain he better not ever come face to face with Highlander, I hate those little f ers
