Piss poor roots in coco

Cycad

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Felt vs plastic.
Both plants were seeded at the same time and were roughly the same, in preflower, when I up-potted from #6 pots.
The one on the right continued into flower, most of the fan leaves are gone, it's not that far from finishing.
The one on the left went into a massive burst of veg growth after repotting and is only now beginning to properly flower.
I am not using plastic any more after this experience.
 

ninja1

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I will have to try get photos from my old phone but I have had roots get like the photo posted where the pot is covered. That’s back when I was letting the pots get light. I got there in the end but I felt it took way longer than needed. You look even on this topic we’ve got people saying water daily from the start and others say let the pots get a bit light.

I am probably gonna go with the Wilma as always got roots going wild with that. The issue of me trying to get better roots I will have to save for next time where I can run two plants side by side and see what turns out better. Can’t afford to lose anymore plants like I say. so I’m gonna bang the drippers in and as pots are a third smaller than when usually used the drippers. I will adjust the time accordingly and see how they look by Sunday.

I honestly ain’t let the coco go bone dry like I have done in the past. I’m gonna end up hand watering anyway just be nice to get my issue sorted. I thought I had when I clocked I was packing the coco down to much. Cuts my mate gave me last time I was watering soon as the tops looked dry and was daily without any care for how heavy a pot was. They took off and done great so I thought I cracked it. Seems that the roots already being there made a difference.

i still feel stuck as see conflicting replies lol water daily, let the pots get light but not dry out. I’d say I been doing the second but when watered with a heavy pot you can see in the photo the plant went over watered.
 

TintEastwood

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"Many grow medias have lots of fine material. Some Coco brands have a lot of fine “coco pith dust” resulting in a much lower AFP & a much higher WHC. Growers often add Perlite, Hydroton (Clay Pebbles) & other amendments to open up their media to increase the Air Fill Porosity & decrease the Water Holding Capacity due to the fine material found in many Coco grow media products."


 
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Wastei

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Felt vs plastic.
Both plants were seeded at the same time and were roughly the same, in preflower, when I up-potted from #6 pots.
The one on the right continued into flower, most of the fan leaves are gone, it's not that far from finishing.
The one on the left went into a massive burst of veg growth after repotting and is only now beginning to properly flower.
I am not using plastic any more after this experience.
That's not a side by side though. You need identical clones and exactly the same size of the medium to do that.

I like that you found something you personally liked but that's not a genuine side by side comparison by any means.
 

Star Dog

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The 1st couple of weeks they get fed when required, once they get to 3-4" tall I start feeding them more regularly then onto and a daily feeds then multiple feeds during flower.

I don't think you can over water coco but I do find you can hold seedling and clones back by feeding them to frequently.

There's different types/quality of coco some have fine particles and the ability to hold water is better to that of course fibrous coco, that difference can be used to your advantage but could work to your disadvantage depending on the environment and age/size.
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Piss poor roots it's not.
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Feed it to run of daily and this becomes the normal it's not hit or miss its predictable.

I wish you the best of luck.
 

Billy the Mountain

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i still feel stuck as see conflicting replies lol water daily, let the pots get light but not dry out. I’d say I been doing the second but when watered with a heavy pot you can see in the photo the plant went over watered.
Coco should be fertigated to runoff every time. Coco doesn't need to, and shouldn't be allowed to dry out (EC spike). A coco/perlite combo has plenty of oxygen even fully saturated.
Checkout cocoforcannabis.com for more detailed info regarding coco fertigation.
 

Fatleg77

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there is also the PH issue from mixing coco with soil, plants in soil like the ph pretty much right at 6.5, plants in coco like it between 5.8 and 6.2, so you might be getting some weird intermittent issues with nutrient uptake
I never thought of that..good point
 
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