MickFoster
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It's not the water, or the lights........it's the soil........dense with no oxygen for the roots.
I refer you to my post #5.
The more oxygen to the roots the better and faster the growth.
Plants dont recover after overwatering and transplanting =/
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I refer you to my post #5.
The more oxygen to the roots the better and faster the growth.
bescheidenheit33
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But why do none of my other plants have any problems with that soil?
My Wedding Cake and my 2x little DoSiDos are growing great (look at the black pots in post #18 ).
Im using that soil for years now, and I never had any problems with it.
I even showed you my previous plant, my Super Lemon Haze, in the same soil.
MickFoster
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I don't see anything in black pots.........unless you mean the new sprouts in containers with aluminum foil covering them.
Even though you say you use the same soil........there's clearly a visual difference between the soil with the SLH and your problem seedlings.
bescheidenheit33
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You can see both my Wedding Cake and the already chopped Super Lemon Haze in post Nr. 15 on page 1.
Like I said im using the soil for years, it might not be the best but it 100% works...
MickFoster
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There's clearly a visual difference in the soil between the two larger plants and the problem seedlings.........looks like a lot more perlite, and the soil doesn't look like mud.
bescheidenheit33
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I dont see any difference and I have no idea why I would lie here.
Im not lying to you, it is the same soil.
I grow with that soil for years, if you dont want to believe me ok then not.
But it is the same soil.
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MtRainDog
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Different plants are going to drink and grow roots differently. These particular seedlings of yours clearly didn't take kindly to your soil or watering methods. People are giving you solid advice here. I agree that soil looks like it could use more aeration. You've used it successfully before, and I don't think anyone thinks you're lying. But don't be so set in your ways that you don't try new methods that you never improve or learn. Been at this a while now, and I'm still learning, and still take the advice. No reason to get so defensive. You're having a problem, and people are trying to help you. You started this thread with that intention, right?
bescheidenheit33
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No im not upset my english is just very bad, and it might look like im mad.
Im willing to agree but I really, honestly, dont see how my soil could possibly be the problem.
It does have some perlite in it by the way, may be the camera or the fact that it was dirt dry.
Now that its wet, it looks different and you can see the perlite.
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weedstoner420
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I still think they will recover with time, but if you do start new seeds, it might be better to let them dry out significantly before adding water, even if it means the soil isn't optimally moist at all times. At least until they have an established root system.
Seedlings need surprisingly little, and are very sensitive to being over-watered. It can honestly be the most frustrating part of the grow...
Seedlings need surprisingly little, and are very sensitive to being over-watered. It can honestly be the most frustrating part of the grow...
MickFoster
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If you start over I suggest using a lot more perlite to aerate the soil and starting in solo cups.
Don't transplant until they're this size.
Don't transplant until they're this size.
bescheidenheit33
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How do you water your plants? Per hand?
Ive planted 2 more gorilla glues and ordered more seeds, Ive given up on the small ones.
MickFoster
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I grow in coco so I start feeding daily to run off starting around day 3 or 4 from sprout.
I hope you plan on adding more perlite to your soil and starting in solo cups.
Those plants in the pic I posted are 2 weeks from sprout.
bescheidenheit33
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By "feeding" you mean nutrients, or water?
And what do you mean by "solo cups"?
I will go to the hardware store in a few minutes, Im going to buy some more perlite, and I could also buy some coco
maybe they have it there, I just never used coco.
Does it make any sense to mix soil + perlite + coco?
I try to grow organically so I dont want to use mineral nutrients, and as far as I know coco
doesnt have any nutrients or microbes in them right?
GreenGenez421
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As simplistic as dissolved 02 is, it's amazing what high levels in the soil can do.
MickFoster
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By feeding I mean with nutrients.......never plain water in coco.......ever.
Solo cups are just 16oz plastic drinking cups.
Never mix coco and soil. They have different pH requirements and soil has to go through a wet/dry cycle, whereas coco has to stay saturated.
You can't do organic in coco.......mineral nutrients are required.
Coco is drain to waste hydroponics.........nothing like soil.
GreenGenez421
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This is completely false mick
GreenGenez421
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Veganic No-Till with coco, compost, leaf mold, castings........ water only
MissinThe90’sStrains
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TLO uses coco and soil mixed together, for example, and avoids using peat. If you know how to manipulate your medium and understand the strengths/weaknesses of each, you can pull it off - here’s an example of a product for just that (Mother Earth, coco peat blend)
www.acehardware.com
Mother Earth All Purpose Coco Peat 1.5 cu ft Mfr# HGC714889 - Ace Hardware
Mother Earth Coco Peat is a rich blend of ingredients designed to create a desirable plant growth media for those looking for an alternative to traditional bark-based growing media. Comprised of coco fiber, peat moss, perlite, pumice and 15 other ingredients, this blend will allow growers more...