police beat innocent man while hes on fire

SneekyNinja

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attempted second degree..manslaughter is by accident. second degree is not planned BUT opportunity. first degree is both, opportunity and plan.
You left out intent.

It's extremely difficult to prove intent and it's the biggest qualifier for the charge of murder.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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there were 4 police officers holding guns on a man who was already on his knees.
there is NO excuse for hitting him at all at that point, much less kicking him.
they should have grabbed him, and in the process, heard him say he was an innocent bystander. a quick examination of the area should have shown them what was going on, that he got out of a parked car, and that the person they were actually looking for was still in the other car.....which was on fire......
and these are the people charged with keeping our families and cities safe.....
the maggots have forgotten the faces of their fathers
 

Indacouch

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there were 4 police officers holding guns on a man who was already on his knees.
there is NO excuse for hitting him at all at that point, much less kicking him.
they should have grabbed him, and in the process, heard him say he was an innocent bystander. a quick examination of the area should have shown them what was going on, that he got out of a parked car, and that the person they were actually looking for was still in the other car.....which was on fire......
and these are the people charged with keeping our families and cities safe.....
the maggots have forgotten the faces of their fathers
This is why "WE" keep our familia safe......fuck the police.
 

since1991

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Ive heard of kicking a man while hes down...BUT ON FIRE? WOW. STOP RESISTING!!! STOP RESISTING!!! CANT TASE HIM. THE FIRE ON HIS BACK WOULD MELT THE WIRES.
 

What..?

Active Member
Something tells me if they are charged with anything it will be violating department policy (always let a burning criminal burn) rather than actual crime.
From ABC7NY:

"1. Lieutenant Keith Ludwig (3 counts total): 2nd and 3rd degree aggravated assault, official misconduct

2. MD Khan (13 counts total): Possession of a weapon for unlawful purpose, 2nd and 3rd and 4th degree aggravated assault, attempted murder, official misconduct

3. Officer Eric Kosinski (5 counts total): Possession of a weapon for unlawful purpose, 2nd and 3rd degree aggravated assault, attempted murder, official misconduct

4. Officer Francisco Rodriguez (4 counts total): Possession of a weapon for unlawful purpose, 2nd and 3rd degree aggravated assault, official misconduct

Prosecutors said the Jersey City officers also fired multiple shots during the chase, before the suspect crashed his car.

The Jersey City police union said they stand by their officers and will wait for their day in court.
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