Police Interactions.

RobCat

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Black people certainly aren't exempt from racism. The soft segregation I'm referring to isn't, "aw jeez, we sure wish we could live with you wonderful white folks", it's more like, "yeah well fuck you too". I know your sentences, because I've heard them a thousand times and I've seen what they translate to. You just skirt the truth. When you say, "They knew that would get them nowhere. We all got along fine.", it's actually, "they knew their place".
Yeah as opposed to this whole push from liberals...who want to treat you as an uneducated invalid that needs to be coddled and bottle fed through life. "Getting them up to speed" as my dingbat sister-in-law says. Thats really what this whole CRT and reparations claptrap is really about. Not sure about you but if I was a minority all it would do is make me feel like a 2nd class citizen. Most black people dont want to be treated like some Lhasa Apso that needs excessive petting and special treatment. They just want to be average citizens like the rest of us. But most people dont get that so thats irrelevant. Im from a broke ass white family myself. No savings. No trust funds. No "slave money". Youll never convince me you deserve better treatment than me. Ive been prejudiced against by people of other races in my life and so has everyone else. Its alive and well but definitely not in this 1950's scenario you're obsessed with. Most of the minorities i grew up around are doing pretty damn well for themselves, in some cases far better than I. Now if youd excuse me. I have 4 justaburgers with extra mustard to wolf down on my lunch break
 
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mooray

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Yes, I'm very well aware at how imposing the words of a democrat feels to a republican. I'd recommend taking the same approach as what republicans tell black people when they're offended at the n-word, which is, "don't give them that emotional power/control over you".
 

UncleBuck

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Yeah as opposed to this whole push from liberals...who want to treat you as an uneducated invalid that needs to be coddled and bottle fed through life. "Getting them up to speed" as my dingbat sister-in-law says. Thats really what this whole CRT and reparations claptrap is really about. Not sure about you but if I was a minority all it would do is make me feel like a 2nd class citizen. Most black people dont want to be treated like some Lhasa Apso that needs excessive petting and special treatment. They just want to be average citizens like the rest of us. But most people dont get that so thats irrelevant. Im from a broke ass white family myself. No savings. No trust funds. No "slave money". Youll never convince me you deserve better treatment than me. Ive been prejudiced against by people of other races in my life and so has everyone else. Its alive and well but definitely not in this 1950's scenario you're obsessed with. Most of the minorities i grew up around are doing pretty damn well for themselves, in some cases far better than I. Now if youd excuse me. I have 4 justaburgers with extra mustard to wolf down on my lunch break
huh, racist white trash. imagine that.
 

UncleBuck

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the black folks I grew up with in the south didn't have a pompous attitude towards other races....a white guy would get capped just for standing around....blame whitey
using a synonym for uppity doesnt fool anyone. i bet you thought that was pretty clever though
 

hanimmal

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Yeah as opposed to this whole push from liberals...who want to treat you as an uneducated invalid that needs to be coddled and bottle fed through life. "Getting them up to speed" as my dingbat sister-in-law says. Thats really what this whole CRT and reparations claptrap is really about. Not sure about you but if I was a minority all it would do is make me feel like a 2nd class citizen. Most black people dont want to be treated like some Lhasa Apso that needs excessive petting and special treatment. They just want to be average citizens like the rest of us. But most people dont get that so thats irrelevant. Im from a broke ass white family myself. No savings. No trust funds. No "slave money". Youll never convince me you deserve better treatment than me. Ive been prejudiced against by people of other races in my life and so has everyone else. Its alive and well but definitely not in this 1950's scenario you're obsessed with. Most of the minorities i grew up around are doing pretty damn well for themselves, in some cases far better than I. Now if youd excuse me. I have 4 justaburgers with extra mustard to wolf down on my lunch break
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CatHedral

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Yeah as opposed to this whole push from liberals...who want to treat you as an uneducated invalid that needs to be coddled and bottle fed through life. "Getting them up to speed" as my dingbat sister-in-law says. Thats really what this whole CRT and reparations claptrap is really about. Not sure about you but if I was a minority all it would do is make me feel like a 2nd class citizen. Most black people dont want to be treated like some Lhasa Apso that needs excessive petting and special treatment. They just want to be average citizens like the rest of us. But most people dont get that so thats irrelevant. Im from a broke ass white family myself. No savings. No trust funds. No "slave money". Youll never convince me you deserve better treatment than me. Ive been prejudiced against by people of other races in my life and so has everyone else. Its alive and well but definitely not in this 1950's scenario you're obsessed with. Most of the minorities i grew up around are doing pretty damn well for themselves, in some cases far better than I. Now if youd excuse me. I have 4 justaburgers with extra mustard to wolf down on my lunch break
Pushing back against CRT, which has proven to be a real and extensive problem, is diagnostic for racism.
 

doublejj

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Yeah as opposed to this whole push from liberals...who want to treat you as an uneducated invalid that needs to be coddled and bottle fed through life. "Getting them up to speed" as my dingbat sister-in-law says. Thats really what this whole CRT and reparations claptrap is really about. Not sure about you but if I was a minority all it would do is make me feel like a 2nd class citizen. Most black people dont want to be treated like some Lhasa Apso that needs excessive petting and special treatment. They just want to be average citizens like the rest of us. But most people dont get that so thats irrelevant. Im from a broke ass white family myself. No savings. No trust funds. No "slave money". Youll never convince me you deserve better treatment than me. Ive been prejudiced against by people of other races in my life and so has everyone else. Its alive and well but definitely not in this 1950's scenario you're obsessed with. Most of the minorities i grew up around are doing pretty damn well for themselves, in some cases far better than I. Now if youd excuse me. I have 4 justaburgers with extra mustard to wolf down on my lunch break
maybe you missed my question......Was George Floyd murdered?
 

hanimmal

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MONROE, La. (AP) — Graphic body camera video kept secret for more than two years shows a Louisiana State Police trooper pummeling a Black motorist 18 times with a flashlight — an attack the trooper defended as “pain compliance.”

“I’m not resisting! I’m not resisting!” Aaron Larry Bowman can be heard screaming between blows on the footage obtained by The Associated Press. The May 2019 beating following a traffic stop left him with a broken jaw, three broken ribs, a broken wrist and a gash to his head that required six staples to close.

Bowman’s encounter near his Monroe home came less than three weeks after troopers from the same embattled agency punched, stunned and dragged another Black motorist, Ronald Greene, before he died in police custody on a rural roadside in northeast Louisiana. Video of Greene’s death similarly remained under wraps before AP obtained and published it earlier this year.

Federal prosecutors are examining both cases in a widening investigation into police brutality and potential cover-ups involving both troopers and state police brass.

State police didn’t investigate the attack on Bowman until 536 days after it occurred — even though it was captured on body camera — and only did so weeks after Bowman brought a civil lawsuit.

The agency did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment on the video.

Bowman’s beating was carried out by Jacob Brown, a white trooper who, before resigning in March, tallied 23 use-of-force incidents dating to 2015 — 19 of them targeting Black people, according to state police records.

Aside from the federal investigation, Brown faces state charges of second-degree battery and malfeasance in Bowman’s beating. He also faces state charges in two other violent arrests of Black motorists, including one he boasted about last year in a group chat with other troopers, saying the suspect is “gonna be sore” and “it warms my heart knowing we could educate that young man.”

On the night Bowman was pulled over for a traffic violation, Brown came upon the scene after deputies had forcibly removed Bowman from his vehicle and taken him to the ground. The trooper later told investigators he “was in the area and was trying to get involved.”

Wielding an 8-inch aluminum flashlight reinforced with a pointed end to shatter car glass, Brown jumped out of his state police vehicle and began bashing Bowman on his head and body within two seconds of “initial contact” — unleashing 18 strikes in 24 seconds, detectives wrote in an investigative report.

“Give me your f------ hands!” the trooper shouted. “I ain’t messing with you.”

Bowman tried to explain several times that he was a dialysis patient, had done nothing wrong and wasn’t resisting, saying, “I’m not fighting you, you’re fighting me.”

Brown responded with: “Shut the f—- up!” and “You ain’t listening.”

Bowman later can be heard moaning, still on the ground. “I’m bleeding!” he said. “They hit me in the head with a flashlight!”

Brown, 31, later said Bowman had struck a deputy and that the blows were “pain compliance” intended to get Bowman into handcuffs. Investigators who reviewed Brown’s video months after the fact determined his use of force was not reasonable or necessary.

Brown did not respond to several messages seeking comment.

Bowman, 46, denied hitting anyone and is not seen on the video being violent with officers. But he still faces a list of charges, including battery of a police officer, resisting an officer and the traffic violation for which he was initially stopped, improper lane usage.

Brown not only failed to report his use of force but mislabeled his footage as a “citizen encounter” in what investigators called “an intentional attempt to hide the video from any administrative review.”

Bowman’s defense attorney, Keith Whiddon, said he was initially told there was no body-camera video.

Robert Tew, the district attorney in Monroe, declined to discuss Brown’s case or anything to do with the state police. “We’ll see what the DOJ has to do,” he said during a brief interview outside his home.

Bowman himself hadn’t seen the footage until recently, when prosecutors from the U.S. Justice Department showed it to him and his civil attorney.

“I kept thinking I was going to die that night,” Bowman told the AP through tears in a recent interview. “It was like reliving it all over again. By watching it, I broke down all over again.”

“I don’t want nobody to go through that.”
 

hanimmal

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If the cops keep this shit up they will have to wear shock collars like dogs with a live video feed to someone, or perhaps some AI intelligence, who can zap the fuckers and remotely disable their guns, then bellow out a brief warning message! :lol:
It just sucks, they need to find and arrest who ever is making the fake calls on people because they are the ones that is creating the danger.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It just sucks, they need to find and arrest who ever is making the fake calls on people because they are the ones that is creating the danger.
Make it a federal offense and no one gets a burner phone without an ID and their picture taken and the law makes them responsible for it too, a cellphone drivers license, even. Death threats are causing election and public health officials to quit in droves and are even influencing policy. This needs to stop and those making threats have to traced and punished with long prison sentences for terrorism. Policy should make it easier to find those who do this and harder for them to operate. They could use voice prints of threats left on answering machines and even provide high quality equipment to record threats and make voice prints from them. Next they could robocall suspects to get voice samples and help to find suspects. I think many of these people operate on multiple platforms and once you nail them, you'll stop a lot of threats.

Changes in policy and law can solve this problem and bring the guilty to justice. Like so many other improvements and renovations to the grand old house, ya gotta win the election first though.
 

hanimmal

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Make it a federal offense and no one gets a burner phone without an ID and their picture taken and the law makes them responsible for it too, a cellphone drivers license, even. Death threats are causing election and public health officials to quit in droves and are even influencing policy. This needs to stop and those making threats have to traced and punished with long prison sentences for terrorism. Policy should make it easier to find those who do this and harder for them to operate. They could use voice prints of threats left on answering machines and even provide high quality equipment to record threats and make voice prints from them. Next they could robocall suspects to get voice samples and help to find suspects. I think many of these people operate on multiple platforms and once you nail them, you'll stop a lot of threats.

Changes in policy and law can solve this problem and bring the guilty to justice. Like so many other improvements and renovations to the grand old house, ya gotta win the election first though.
I don't know, from my experience with white people, it really is so random that they work themselves up into calling police on 'suspicious' people (or it is someone from their neighborhood.

I do like the laws that go after the false claims though. With camera phones there really needs to be a way for 9/11 to observe/record video from the phones as the calls are being made. We need to get a lot more technically smarter with how we police our society to cut down on all the trauma and danger from these false cases.
 

CatHedral

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I don't know, from my experience with white people, it really is so random that they work themselves up into calling police on 'suspicious' people (or it is someone from their neighborhood.

I do like the laws that go after the false claims though. With camera phones there really needs to be a way for 9/11 to observe/record video from the phones as the calls are being made. We need to get a lot more technically smarter with how we police our society to cut down on all the trauma and danger from these false cases.
911, not 9/11

However having externals monitor and store the video is imo a very good idea.
 
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