Posting Anonymously?

youngbuzz101

Well-Known Member
your probably the guy who shows all his guests his grow uses no smell concealment and has blatant regard for law enforcement.

Play with fire you get burned..
If i get caught I'm being charged for my plants at hand, you get caught and your being charged for your plants at hand plus your recent grows posted on RIU.
 

ru4r34l

Well-Known Member
If your having speed issues while using TOR I suggest you turn off all scripts and images, you will not get the same forum experience but you will be able to read and respond in relatively normal manner.

regards,
 

Lululady

Member
The safest assumption, as I used to tell my students, is that anything posted on the Internet may come back to bite you in the butt. You never know how long servers keep information, or how willing they are to turn it over if asked. The DOJ requests an incredible amount of information each year from ISP providers and other host servers. Some immediately comply, some balk and will ultimately prevail (or lose). The forensic capabilities of the DOJ, given the correct amount of motivation, exceeds the technical capabilities of most posters here. I don't generally subscribe to conspiracy theories but cybersecurity is a number one concern in the defense department and there is legislation pending as we type that will limit user's rights. PIPA is not dead, it's coming in the back door, through the Trans-Pacific trade agreement if nowhere else. ISP's, major utilities, and those with copyright and patent interests are all on board and have been actively participating in negotiations. A new govt facility in Utah is being constructed with a warehouse floor of servers dedicated to monitoring US network traffic. Stuxnet was a big hit on Iran. There are justifiable concerns that US could become a similar target.

That being said, one must keep in mind the risk, from the govt's point of view, one represents, as opposed to the amount of effort required and any benefit gained. Growing enough pot for individual supply, my guess, doesn't register on any radar screens. That doesn't imply that some discretion isn't sensible. Is "pot roast" a site administrator? Has anybody asked if rollitup has ever had their records requested, either in total or of individual users? They are not required to reveal if they have, but they will show up on the FOIA requests periodically I've seen reported, unless complying with FOIA is determined to represent threat to national security (though don't recall where can find reports at the moment)? Our personal rights are gradually being eroded in the name of the war on terrorism. I wouldn't assume the forum will protect anonymity. Going to court to fight requires money. Better to be a boring target and not post about having replaced your 5 acres of cornfields with a higher profit (more drought-resistant?) commodity.
 

chrishydro

Well-Known Member
Quick Post here..

I was wondering exactly how safe is posting your questions/progress on the form without risking your anonymous integrity.

Can local law enforcement or internet provider get access to your posting history which could be used against you in court *if shit hit the fan*.

Should I be looking into internet browsing encryption if I want to post full journals.

I have been posting scattered posts for sometime but i have been reluctant to post habitually based on the assumption that I would be compromising my privacy.

Curious to hear what you think..

Youngbuzz101:leaf:
I find these post funny, you are not John Gotti if you are growing a couple plants in your back yard, no one is going to spend thousands on survailance or hellicopters etc to catch you growing a couple of plants.
 

billybob420

Well-Known Member
If your having speed issues while using TOR I suggest you turn off all scripts and images, you will not get the same forum experience but you will be able to read and respond in relatively normal manner.

regards,
Initialization from one page to another take a very long time, not page load speeds. I thought everyone had that problem? It doesn't have to be this way? lol

Maybe next time i have some adderall I'll go to work perfecting my TOR settings, it can be so tedious it's hard to do when you're not speeding your balls off.
 

|B3RNY|

Well-Known Member
What about the various IP address changers you can download for free? Has anyone ever tried one and would they help in a situation(s) like this? I know that if a Judge or subpoena/warrant comes to RIU, they're not going to be capable of protecting your privacy, soon even your ISP must hand over all browsing/searching/posting history or they, too, will be prosecuted in the event that you have broken a law, so they'll most likely let you go to jail by yourself before they come along with you (I don't blame them one bit, better 1 than 2 or more.)
 

polyarcturus

Well-Known Member
oh and while everbody here is on track make sure you support TOR buy a t-shirt or a coffee mug if you can. i haven't had the extra bucks so dont be acting like im advertising all im saying good shit is hardly ever free so help them if you can i plan on buying a Tee or a coffee mug.
 

RollupRick

Active Member
I'm still of the logic that while growing is still illegal, I can't compute that its worse than actually going out and buying from a dealer.

Growing your own you're avoiding putting money in the dealers pockets, and taking control over the quality of what you put into your body. Thats not being a criminal, thats being responsible.

Alchohol versus weed, alchohol costs society a FORTUNE each week as pissheads come out of the bars, start trouble, fights, police hours, cell time etc. How many stoners get off their ass and start fights or cause trouble? The only difference from a legal perspective is alchohol causes more damage to individuals and society as a whole, except its legal and taxable. Its not our fault if the governments still brand weed as an illicit substance and thus don't tax it as a result.

And I hate the gateway drug argument the suits use ... I know a LOT of stoners, and none of us have any interest in using powders or pills. While there are some who will use it as a gateway, thats down to individual personality rather than the substance. Why don't they ban alchohol, because some people become alchoholics?

On the off chance I do get busted some day, I have my argument and defence already written out. Why I grow my own. Why I use it. The benefits it offers my difficult life. The amount of good I do with my life helping people. The attitude and spirit of my personality. I'm not a junkie, and I'm not a bad member of society. I'm just a nice guy who likes a toke, and who doesn't drink or cause trouble. I'd also ask the court - is it preferential for me to buy from those who are involved purely in the profit side of it?

The technical paperwork says that what I am doing is illegal. But thats only on paperwork - in the real world it is a victimless crime, and a crime that is necessary as I gain greater benefits from my herbs than I do from the prescription chemicals the docs would rather I pump into my body for depression/anxiety and generally having a stressed out existence.

I am not a criminal by growing and smoking my own, and I refuse to be judged/branded as one by people in suits who have zero understanding of it.
 

Closetgardner

Well-Known Member
The safest assumption, as I used to tell my students, is that anything posted on the Internet may come back to bite you in the butt. You never know how long servers keep information, or how willing they are to turn it over if asked. The DOJ requests an incredible amount of information each year from ISP providers and other host servers. Some immediately comply, some balk and will ultimately prevail (or lose). The forensic capabilities of the DOJ, given the correct amount of motivation, exceeds the technical capabilities of most posters here. I don't generally subscribe to conspiracy theories but cybersecurity is a number one concern in the defense department and there is legislation pending as we type that will limit user's rights. PIPA is not dead, it's coming in the back door, through the Trans-Pacific trade agreement if nowhere else. ISP's, major utilities, and those with copyright and patent interests are all on board and have been actively participating in negotiations. A new govt facility in Utah is being constructed with a warehouse floor of servers dedicated to monitoring US network traffic. Stuxnet was a big hit on Iran. There are justifiable concerns that US could become a similar target.

That being said, one must keep in mind the risk, from the govt's point of view, one represents, as opposed to the amount of effort required and any benefit gained. Growing enough pot for individual supply, my guess, doesn't register on any radar screens. That doesn't imply that some discretion isn't sensible. Is "pot roast" a site administrator? Has anybody asked if rollitup has ever had their records requested, either in total or of individual users? They are not required to reveal if they have, but they will show up on the FOIA requests periodically I've seen reported, unless complying with FOIA is determined to represent threat to national security (though don't recall where can find reports at the moment)? Our personal rights are gradually being eroded in the name of the war on terrorism. I wouldn't assume the forum will protect anonymity. Going to court to fight requires money. Better to be a boring target and not post about having replaced your 5 acres of cornfields with a higher profit (more drought-resistant?) commodity.
yeah lulu,potroast is the site admin.no i never asked if they have had their records requested.
 

missnu

Well-Known Member
I pm'd pot roast and asked him this he replyed and said that he can retrieve the ip addy that u used to register. He sent me a link I'll post when I'm back on a comp. anyway I used the link to track my ip and it placed me 40 miles from my actual location. That put a smile on my face lol
My IP address has us logged in the wrong state...I mean it isn't even close to where our house is...
 

RollupRick

Active Member
The IP is of your internet connection, and the main ISP server used will derive the IP. Thus the IP based tracking will point to the host, not your house. In my case the server is like 450 miles away. Unless you're running your own server from your house. Details of your connection is available by your ISP to the police for example, but Joe Bloggs public won't be able to track you directly to your address from your public IP.

Sure people can connect to your IP, but its via the server allocated IP, an in-between. Thats no worry unless you don't use any firewall etc.
 

Lululady

Member
I agree with everything you wrote. Further, I think that as long as I'm not hurting anybody else, its none of the government's business what drugs I want to take or what I do to my body. I think its ridiculous that drugs are illegal and that our society is spending so much money putting people in prisons for using drugs. By the same token, our financial institutions who launder the billions of cartel drug money either go unpunished or get a slap on the wrist (e.g. Wachovia, HSBC). The "war on drugs" is being prosecuted against the disenfranchised. If you are white, you are far less likely to be arrested, prosecuted, and/or incarcerated for possession than if you are an African American or Latino. The largest segment of our prison population are minorities convicted of drug-related offenses. Prisons are being privatized, contracts with state and local governments guaranteeing private corporations they will provide them minimum levels of occupancy. (Another new interesting trend: outside large corporations able to hire prison labor at $1-2/hour, no benefits........ the new China???)

That being said, the law is the law. Belief that the law is unfair is not a defense to being found guilty of breaking the law. It is a mistake to assume that our legal system is fair, in any sense of the word.
 

Jack Harer

Well-Known Member
I'd appreciate a Link or 2 for these hosts!! TIA.

TOR network is not a proxy, each hop on the network does not contain complete trip information but only knows about the immediate sender and immediate receiver of the data; tracing TOR can be done from a end-to-end attack but this is not realistic for law enforcement agencies UNLESS you happen to be the feds "Next Big Fish"

Also you can have an anoymous proxy that does not provide information to law enforcement, there are still some hosts (and I continue to do business with them to this day), and data service providers that have fully encrypted databases which they cannot decrypt, and/or provide infor to law enforcement.

regards,
 

ru4r34l

Well-Known Member
I'd appreciate a Link or 2 for these hosts!! TIA.
Spider Oak (Backup Services) - https://spideroak.com/
Katz Global Media (Anonymous Web Hosting) - http://www.katzglobal.com/hosting/hosting.html

It should be noted that any host that provides access via KVM over IP on a dedicated server should work, the admin can use the dm_crypt module or EncFS to encrypt the partition and hide data from the hosting provider; ofcourse the admin now has to make a point of mounting and unmounting as while mounted the partition is decrypted.

These are the two services I use, as well as a multitude of Amazon servers which are all encrypted ;)

regards,
 
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