Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is

It wasn't me. I didn't even read that post.

I've yet to give a neg rep to anyone, but I can't say I haven't been tempted...

"Ignore" works so much better.

I only "Ignore" for ppl who cannot control themselves online. That or if I determine they are a LIAR.

So far only DoobNva has fallen into "ignore" for lying. I can't abide liars. So he's gone from my view. To lie about something petty is a true indicator you are not worthy of my conversation. Life's too short.

Sure Shot said:

Where did you get these calculations?

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From the TV series "The Universe".
They've been doing some shows on "End of the Earth" scenarios.

CrackerJax said:

It wasn't me. I didn't even read that post.

I've yet to give a neg rep to anyone, but I can't say I haven't been tempted...

"Ignore" works so much better.

I only "Ignore" for ppl who cannot control themselves online. That or if I determine they are a LIAR.

So far only DoobNva has fallen into "ignore" for lying. I can't abide liars. So he's gone from my view. To lie about something petty is a true indicator you are not worthy of my conversation. Life's too short.

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, don't tell me You had to hit the big REd IgnorE Button, hehehe, Yeah, They left a pretty good hunch it wasn't somebody I knew.. I know, Far Worse things thats been said to you , and it never rattled you......

I don't Even know how to Neg (-) rep somebody, those powers have not been bestowed Upon Me ,

Once that Happens, Looke Out 4 eViL FiSh , hahahahahaha.....

Oh, it had to be an elite or a MOD. A MOD would DEFINITELY leave their name, or the point is lost on the recipient.

Believe me, if I left someone a neg rep.... I'd sign my name. Heck... you know me.... it would be all CAPS...

CrackerJax said:

Oh, it had to be an elite or a MOD. A MOD would DEFINITELY leave their name, or the point is lost on the recipient.

Believe me, if I left someone a neg rep.... I'd sign my name. Heck... you know me.... it would be all CAPS...

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Yes CJ, I do know you well enough that you Would stand behind your Words.....

I definitely know the Mods will make it known who it was because they would simply post it......

Yeah, I figured out it was some New Privileged Elite stroking their power,

Just like the Elite....., try to keep you subdued, and thinking only Positive.....Hence, the only option for the Peasants is to +rep....,

Yes, actually I think on of the trolls actually bought an elite membership just to neg rep ppl.

How sad is that?

Heck, I just wanted a bigger avatar...

That would be sad indeed, I tried to enlist a Elite membership, because I wanted to support this Site..., Thats all. I love what RIU is doing, it has completely changed my Way of LIving, but my card wouldn't go through @ the time I tried..

I've found other ways to contribute, but I eventually want to donate monetarily. Right now I have a hard time envisioning myself as being an Elitist...

Maybe they should call it the V.I.P. , I have no problems with that, Pass the Skrimp and Bubbly

andersbranderud said:

From timespace=0, scientists hold that nothing in the universe magically "popped in" with no cause. It is a fundamental law of physics that every physical occurrence in the universe has a cause.

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No it isn't. There is no such physical law. What you're talking about is called 'causality' and Immanuel Kant basically dismantled the whole concept in his Critique of Pure Reason.

But Kant is a philosopher, not a scientist, and causality is something which scientists have never touched.

on gravity originating from super massive black holes-
i applaud your effort at reaching out and learning new things.. but i think that in your 'frantic' period of learning your over looking one of the most basic fundamentals behind physics, energy, thermodynamics, etc etc..

power in = power out
there is no reaction without equal and opposite reaction...

if gravity were 'originating' from super massive black holes.. where is the return of all the gravitational energy to its source?

gravity is synchronously proportionate to the mass of an object, in other words the bigger the weight, the bigger the gravity... if it originated from a given point and transmitted over distance to a remote object, gravity would have to be detectable in waveform as a particle, as only particles can move... not energy or force itself. energy/force is static untill contact with a force of opposite potential............ sounds complicated but its really not.
lol this guy is awesome.. and he puts it in a way we can all relate to... he doesnt get to gravity till halfway through buts its very interesting:

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IAm5toned said:

on gravity originating from super massive black holes-
i applaud your effort at reaching out and learning new things.. but i think that in your 'frantic' period of learning your over looking one of the most basic fundamentals behind physics, energy, thermodynamics, etc etc..

power in = power out
there is no reaction without equal and opposite reaction...

if gravity were 'originating' from super massive black holes.. where is the return of all the gravitational energy to its source?

gravity is synchronously proportionate to the mass of an object, in other words the bigger the weight, the bigger the gravity... if it originated from a given point and transmitted over distance to a remote object, gravity would have to be detectable in waveform as a particle, as only particles can move... not energy or force itself. energy/force is static untill contact with a force of opposite potential............ sounds complicated but its really not.
lol this guy is awesome.. and he puts it in a way we can all relate to... he doesnt get to gravity till halfway through buts its very interesting:

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, that's what you thought it Was, Me learning on the Go.......,

The return is Equal/proportionate to the weight/Mass of the Super Massive Black Hole and is Exponentially distributed by MetalLic weight. Size doesn't Matter, but it helps, We are not able to properly Scientifically calculate this are We? If So, we would be able to Graph the complete metallic Make up distributed throughout the galaxy and see if there is a significant pattern,

As far as being detected, why must it be in a Particle form and not energy or, Force , We only observe the effect of gravity, and can only verify it's existence through this process.., Do we Know the Origin of Light? Check this Out from Wiki:

The speed of light in a vacuum is presently defined to be exactly 299,792,458 m/s (about 186,282 miles per second). This definition of the speed of light means that the metre is now defined in terms of the speed of light. Light always travels at a constant speed, even between particles of a substance through which it is shining. Photons excite the adjoining particles that in turn transfer the energy to the neighbor. This may appear to slow the beam down through its trajectory in realtime. The time lost between entry and exit accounts to the displacement of energy through the substance between each particle that is excited.

Gravity acts similar in this nature except, it passes through Metal....

and So, No, it's not complicated,

If the Big Magnet is in the middle, then the shrapnel is Pulled towards the middle....

We (and I'm going to stop saying We Shortly) do not know enough to Verify the Origin of Light or Gravity, but we do know where light ends up, and We know where that's At....


Are you trying to Belittle Me ,

Laugh Now, Cry Later..

Stop the Blasphemy on Carl Sagan, that man practically raised me

p.s. it's a tHeoRe, that's All, JeeEeWizzz!!

no ones trying to belittle anyone...besides you maybe trying to belittle me? arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics... not trying to jump on the cliche bandwagon but its true.
i just dont see the logic behind your interpretation of the physics.
demonstrate to me how gravity passes through an object, or how gravity as a force is transmitted over distances.
and not theorys about metallic weights... i want formulas

and im not trying to come off as a hard ass... but what your implicating would mean that the universe is static... because if all mass were a conductor of gravity that is eminating from a single point, how would the current rate of universal expansion be possible without diminishing gravity as objects expand further and further apart?

I mean the lil Magnet will Not move the Bigger Magnet.. Calculate THat. I'm not trying to belittle you, I did.. Exactly, What you were trying to do..


What logic are you looking for, I explained it... All Mass has a Metallic Weight Make Up... It doesn't matter the Size.. You are a make up of Metals, hence why your feet are still on the Ground,

Go Formulate That, Try to Understand the Formulas you Have Now...

I'm sorry, I don't need to put Oxygen into a formula to breathe iT..

I'm not trying to argue with you either, but if you wanted to contest what I said you could of left your personal commentary, and put forth your position for disagreement, like you did after you tried to belittle me..

Now, we can move On, Nice and Orderly,
and discuss why you are not able to logically comprehend what I said, or we CAn start Naming Names.. and see who's left on the Short Bus

IAm5toned said:

and im not trying to come off as a hard ass... but what your implicating would mean that the universe is static... because if all mass were a conductor of gravity that is eminating from a single point, how would the current rate of universal expansion be possible without diminishing gravity as objects expand further and further apart?

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Is matter or Space Exanding? Space is Exanding but not into nothing out side itself..

Objects are receding from each other but not technically expanding outwardly.. however, they are being clumped together..,

I would suggest understanding the theory of the Expansion of Space before making that implication.. That is not what Space Expanding is..

IAm5toned said:

demonstrate to me how gravity passes through an object, or how gravity as a force is transmitted over distances.
and not theorys about metallic weights... i want formulas

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I mean the lil Magnet will Not move the Bigger Magnet.. Calculate THat. I'm not trying to belittle you, I did.. Exactly, What you were trying to do..


What logic are you looking for, I explained it... All Mass has a Metallic Weight Make Up... It doesn't matter the Size.. You are a make up of Metals, hence why your feet are still on the Ground,

Go Formulate That, Try to Understand the Formulas you Have Now...

I'm sorry, I don't need to put Oxygen into a formula to breathe iT..

I'm not trying to argue with you either, but if you wanted to contest what I said you could of left your personal commentary, and put forth your position for disagreement, like you did after you tried to belittle me..

Now, we can move On, Nice and Orderly,
and discuss why you are not able to logically comprehend what I said, or we CAn start Naming Names.. and see who's left on the Short Bus

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the defense rests its case

you know, I caught your Post, and Posted before I caught you next Post, similar to what happend with you..

Matter being Clumped back together has nothing to do with Space Expanding, the observable universe may be smaller than the Entire Universe.. it has nothing to do with Matter Clumping together within that Space..

but whatever Bro', If you didn't want to go down that road, you shouldn't started...

Let it Rest, then

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Keep iT Movin... you Are Pardon

lol dude im not mad, i love a good debate.. stimulates the mind, makes you think, defend your views. i think its cool we have a forum you can do it without a bunch of trolls. i respect you, and your views. sometimes someone has to be the protagonist......

If the only way you can process information is through it being concluded through calculated formulas, (which we do not have, & I stated), then I'm sorry, I don't think in written formulas, and cannot put forth a formula.. besides The information needed is not available to do So..I ThinK..

It's All Good Homey.., I ain't Mad either, it's Called emotional Expression, I got nothing but Love 4 ya' Bro.. That's all I wish to Express/Attract,

I do enjoy the Antagonistic Motive directed in both respects tho'.. All you do is Grow and Learn, What life is All About

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I stopped reading when I realized that everything that everyone in this thread had to say was covered in the first few weeks of my Psychology of Religion course.