Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is

Brazko

Well-Known Member
"Nobody really understands how this happened..." -referring to the Cambrian explosion.

- Wrong. Scientists have very good theories on exactly what happened to produce such diversity in such a relatively short period of time.

- algea from the oceans produced more oxygen, more oxygen was absorbed into the atmosphere creating the ozone layer (O3), which deflected UV rays from the sun, allowing life to take off and diversify. More organisms led to more environmental competition, which led to natural selection. The environment, along with the already rich body of critters with teeth and claws running around produced rapid evolution. The fact we don't have fossil evidence of a lot of the transitions between pre-cambrian organisms and post-cambrian organisms doesn't mean it didn't happen. The conditions of earth during that time might have been hostile to the formation of fossils. We know today that it is extremely difficult for a fossil to form, and even rarer for someone to find it. Of every human being living in America today (that's over 330 million), statisticly if we all dropped dead today, less than one complete human skeleton would become fossilized. The fact we have any fossils is amazing.

"Darwin expected it to happen slowly..."

- Awesome! Darwin also might have expected to have a full head of hair in his old age..., Darwins expectations regarding his theory don't falsify the evidence in any way.
This wasn't a post to say evolution is invalid, it was more to the point that diverse life appeared at once.., Those factors you mentioned have little revelancy to the fact that these fossils have been found all over the world, and although the subtle variance in like species the basic blueprint of differing structures took place all over the planet.., The subject of algae you speak of including the bacteria and so forth is part of it but it's not saying evolution is false just the way it may of happened, as suggested instead of there being 1 common ancestor, that there was a field of ancestors, but all at once (not abracadabra once), geologocially speaking. Also, that's the question as to why we don't have no trace of transitional fossils at this stage, when we have identified embryos of microscopic level and soft tissue, prior to the cambrian fossils, but no transitional fossils from single cellular to the many multicellular species that inhabitated the water around the world at once. The evolution Phylum theory still remains quite reasonably true, but it just wasn't one phylum, but a field!! It doesn't mean the transitions didn't happen, but the information and evidence points differently.

I've watched a little over halve of the full length movie, and it goes into detail of how the information must be passed along through the membrane of the cell (before DNA plays a role) within the single cell, which begins it's mutation into the more complex multicellular organisms.., And that is the ponder now as to where this information must have come from ie. ID, or if not through selective transitional mutations (which are not evident, yet). I would have posted the movie as well but, it hasn't been put up on the web and is only available by DVD now. I just happened to catch it on t.v. last night scrolling and began looking into it further.

Darwin's Dilemma: the Cambrian explosion

The information I watched looked pretty solid, although I have seen from both sides of the arguements through researching, of people making non-sensical statements and assumptions with regards to the information, while disallowing competent reasoning and logic within the components of the evidence provided. (ie. everybody sticking to their faith)
 

Brazko

Well-Known Member
Yes, i'd imagine ur a list person.
I must keep a list of my SubOrdinates Do's and Don'ts...,

Sadly, you are the only one I have to Micro Manage nowadays.., Can A G' get a vacation...Geeeeeze. I knew it would be a waste giving you two of everything. Unless you have something productive to say or, happen to fart & the dust shakes off your brain,>>>>>> :sleep:
 

Smallsn

Well-Known Member
Imagine that when we find out our true creator, the world just gets whip out. POOW! and its just white. LOL just stonedd
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Says you, there is only one creator that is evident. the other is pure conjecture based on nothing more than wishful thinking.

Not knowing the ABC's is no excuse to insert XYZ.
 

Brazko

Well-Known Member
So, What evidence do you need for me to prove that your Creator is Much Older than 7-six, as I stated before. The other is an imaginary Wall that you and your posting comrades hide behind with self doubt and fear.

I already Know A-Z, That's what I'm explaining to you. You're still stuck on G, Know your ABC's
 

morgentaler

Well-Known Member
Can't see the gigantic flaw in ur own post????
No, he doesn't. The idea that he can presuppose his own concept of something he absolutely can not know as fact, and state it as such, is not seen as a flaw by him and his ilk, but as a virtue of faith.

In the same way that idiots rave about Jesus being love and using the New Testament for their evidence, but carefully omitting any part where he says that unbelievers will suffer.

And just like the Old Testament will be used to back up some moral argument by citing a lesson in it, but as soon as you counter with the evils of slavery, rape, torture, genocide, the little hypocrites counter with "Oh, but all this changed with the New Testament and the breaking of the covenants".

They want to have it their way, every way, but the way of the truth is not one of those ways.
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
Luckily, Your Creator Ages like Fine Wine, You still have Opportunity 2 taste...,

No matter, the Longer the Better
This is a new argument I haven't heard before.

When wine starts out sour, it only gets worse. You can put a nice new label on it and water it down to make it appear ok in a modern world , but it's still just the same stinking vinegar inside.
 

Brazko

Well-Known Member
No Cracker, I don't see the Gigantic flaw in my post, You seemingly possess the ability to see it though. So show Me?

Can't see the gigantic flaw in ur own post????
Word of the Day!! (Presuppose)

Because I know we have intelligent people out there, I won't address the stone age post you just made, it has became practically boring listening to you guys present such repetitive monkey brained arguements that have nothing to do with the actual point of discussion at hand. Gibberish

But, Please, Show Me the flaw and the unknown facts I stated as fact..? Thanks


No, he doesn't. The idea that he can presuppose his own concept of something he absolutely can not know as fact, and state it as such, is not seen as a flaw by him and his ilk, but as a virtue of faith.

In the same way that idiots rave about Jesus being love and using the New Testament for their evidence, but carefully omitting any part where he says that unbelievers will suffer.

And just like the Old Testament will be used to back up some moral argument by citing a lesson in it, but as soon as you counter with the evils of slavery, rape, torture, genocide, the little hypocrites counter with "Oh, but all this changed with the New Testament and the breaking of the covenants".

They want to have it their way, every way, but the way of the truth is not one of those ways.
Fly Ball LeFt Field

Is this a new arguement you heard or just made up :confused: And what was the point?

Are you following what I said to my minion, or just venting your personal frustrations just for the sake of Spewing? :?


This is a new argument I haven't heard before.

When wine starts out sour, it only gets worse. You can put a nice new label on it and water it down to make it appear ok in a modern world , but it's still just the same stinking vinegar inside.
This has become Remedially SLOW. I forgot you all don't even know your ABC's
 

Sure Shot

Well-Known Member
You know we are all atheist to some point.
You don't worship Ra, Thor, Zeus, and don't believe they existed right?
Why not just go the next step and stay ahead of the curve?
Yahweh is a false idol just like all the rest.
 

Woodstock.Hippie

New Member
Calling any scientist-like entity to please explain the science behind the direction of genetic transfer after getting naked like me, because We believe genetic drift is real.
 

emmaegdy

Member
LOL, gah all yah did was point out the universe is expanding! no proof here of a "creator" plus its way to hard to believe in the theory/ fiction story of a alll powerful creator!
 

CrackerJax

New Member
No Cracker, I don't see the Gigantic flaw in my post, You seemingly possess the ability to see it though. So show Me?



Word of the Day!! (Presuppose)

Because I know we have intelligent people out there, I won't address the stone age post you just made, it has became practically boring listening to you guys present such repetitive monkey brained arguements that have nothing to do with the actual point of discussion at hand. Gibberish

But, Please, Show Me the flaw and the unknown facts I stated as fact..? Thanks




Fly Ball LeFt Field

Is this a new arguement you heard or just made up :confused: And what was the point?

Are you following what I said to my minion, or just venting your personal frustrations just for the sake of Spewing? :?




This has become Remedially SLOW. I forgot you all don't even know your ABC's


Not a single answer or real response .... shuffle off.

Next!!
 
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PadawanBater

Guest
What I never got is why would anyone believe anything based solely on something they heard or read? Why wouldn't they go investigate these claims for themselves and figure out for themselves the Bible and all of man made religion is clearly bullshit?

Do some people just not get past step 1 or what?
 
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