we can tell him this all we want, it just seems like he'll call said facts our "opinions", or he'll take the shortcut and say "your crazy to think im gonna read all that". this guy doesnt know the difference between an opinion and a fact, if you noticed, he wrote in capital letters, PROOF that god exists, we all know, there is no such proof to the existence of god, and a near death experience, which is a very high dosage DMT trip, has no concrete evidence of a god. i see plenty of things on DMT, i see orbs of light that communicate things that are beyond words, all sort of beautiful sights, now this doesnt mean these things exist in reality, nor do i learn any outside knowledge about the world, only knowledge about myself.
the explanation would be the depths of your mind, our trip is effected by our beliefs, culture, fears, etc., cheif walkin eagle, you, me and plenty other people on here already told him this, but till a few pages ago he said that he gets i "believe" in DMT, not that it exists. seeing heaven and hell in a near death experience is anything but a message from god, and if you read back, it seems as if the OP seems to deny the existence of DMT in your body and it almost seemed like he had never heard of the pinneal gland, im not gonna repost it but he also told me it was "silly" that i related a near death experience(once again, high dosage DMT trip), to the times ive used the very "controlled substance"(thats what he thinks DMT is, little does he know he uses it when he dreams) that causes these very experiences, the only real difference is the dosage of the chemical.
after one denies facts from more than like 10 people(he claimed me and gastanker we're the only ones who were calling him wrong really, its obvious thats untrue and we can all go to the first page and find a handfull of people who highly disagree with him), you have to wonder, are his beliefs really worth our time? i mean, if one denies the very proofs of science but goes to youtube to find "proof", but once people give him some actual facts, he goes on to tell us these are our opinions. you can look at my thread Religion: why you believe what you believe and how can you prove it, he wrote the same thing over there but stopped talking after me and heisenburg questioned why he took the visions seen from a DMT trip as proof to the existence of god, of course, he didnt respond.
this is the problem with most religions nowadays too, they cant accept the very known facts that people worked their lives to accomplish, i have said it before and i will say it again, i have no respect for someone who takes the "knowledge" from youtube over known facts, people answer the questions that religion attempted to, the religious groups even killed most of the people who tried to disprove their flawed knowledge, by not accepting what knowledge they worked so hard to find theres some level of disrespect and a lack of appreciation for the accomplishments of man, he'd rather go on youtube and hear about people's opinion on what we all know to be a high dosage DMT trip, in which it is extremely common to see the being you believe to be god, however i am atheist so my religion or lack thereof has no effect on my visions, i rather see things from my past, or what lies in the depths of my mind and imagination.
he can keep telling us NDE's are the work of god, but theres actual proof out there it is your pinneal gland releasing the chemical known as DMT, yet he will continue to answer that question with the word "god", claim to not be religious, yet still take knowledge from youtube over actual scientific proof. he doesnt deserve my time, your time, or any of ours, he even told gastanker that a person is dead once their heart stops, he even called him an idiot for not believing so. whos the real idiot here? the person who told him a simple fact, or the person who continues to use the visions seen from what is basically a really intense dream as "proof" of the existence of god. we all know the brain lives far past the body too. i have seen some ridiculous things on DMT, or rather in dreams, i guess all those things exist in reality right?
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