PROOF that GOD Exists......

afrawfraw

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Albert Einstein said that science without the bible is blind and the bible without science is lame.
Einstein was raised by secular Jewish parents. In his Autobiographical Notes, Einstein wrote that he had gradually lost his faith early in childhood:
. . . I came—though the child of entirely irreligious (Jewish) parents—to a deep religiousness, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of twelve. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positively fanatic orgy of freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression. Mistrust of every kind of authority grew out of this experience, a skeptical attitude toward the convictions that were alive in any specific social environment—an attitude that has never again left me, even though, later on, it has been tempered by a better insight into the causal connections. It is quite clear to me that the religious paradise of youth, which was thus lost, was a first attempt to free myself from the chains of the 'merely personal,' from an existence dominated by wishes, hopes, and primitive feelings. Out yonder there was this huge world, which exists independently of us human beings and which stands before us like a great, eternal riddle, at least partially accessible to our inspection and thinking. The contemplation of this world beckoned as a liberation, and I soon noticed that many a man whom I had learned to esteem and to admire had found inner freedom and security in its pursuit. The mental grasp of this extra-personal world within the frame of our capabilities presented itself to my mind, half consciously, half unconsciously, as a supreme goal. Similarly motivated men of the present and of the past, as well as the insights they had achieved, were the friends who could not be lost. The road to this paradise was not as comfortable and alluring as the road to the religious paradise; but it has shown itself reliable, and I have never regretted having chosen it.[SUP][2]

Albert Einstein was a deist at best. He believed that something must have caused the universe, but laughed at ideas of an Intelligent being.

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The idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I am unable to take seriously." - (Albert Einstein, Letter to Hoffman and Dukas, 1946)

 

Kaendar

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Christian Science is a system of RELIGIOUS thought and practice derived from the writings of Mary Baker Eddy and the BIBLE!

To be scientific, one must be prepared to accept they are wrong. This violates scripture you see. Starting with the attitude that, "My mind is open to all possibilities, except the notion that GOD or GODS may not exist", is not scientific at all. One must be prepared to admit everything they proposed was wrong. A person of faith is bound, and can not state such a position.

Your examples are individuals trying to explain GOD using science. Science tries to explain science, using science.
http://www.defendingthebride.com/pp/sc3/
 

crazyhazey

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im not seeing how these quotes compare religion to science rather than their "need" to coexist, i see exactly what einstein means by "...religion without science is blind" though, hes basically stating that some of religion is just answering questions they dont have the answers for, science fills in these blanks like i have been stating. however, if science came before religion, i dont think religion would have existed or have been nearly as popular as it is today, "blind faith" is the problem i have with religion, i mean we can all act like religion tells the truth but we have corrected it so many times with simple observations, at what point will the bible/other religious texts stop being the word of "God"(its more like the words of multiple people, altered over thousands of years), and just become an encyclopedia? yes, they do teach us about morality and doing "the right thing"(with morality there is no right and wrong, that is completely an aspect of culture), and yes, there is a billion ways to interpret such a thing but if you look at like everyone else does, its been proven incorrect so many times, just take everything with a grain of salt, those who fully submit to religion and reject science(the OP seems like a perfect example) will be blind.
 

loquacious

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No need for the insult, its just common sense to me if you wanted to know if there is a God, wouldnt you listen to people who have died and had CPR and paramedics bring them back? I would. It seems to be that people cant put religion to the side for a second and just keep it simple, listen to people who've been clinically dead and listen to what they have to say.
Nobody in the history of the world has ever died and come back! Just because your heart stops does not mean your dead.
 
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