prove me there is a god

people would sooner believe the earth was created by aliens than by a God. Or was it all just luck. Luck that was foretold. Yeah that must have been it some ancient wise guy that could see into the future.
 
their is no proof but a high probability. Very High. remember, even bacteria to a single plant on another planet is an Alien Life Form.
 
Maybe instead of burning in hell, the father would be nice enough to let you wonder in space for eternity looking for other forms of life lol
 
bb419 said:
Maybe instead of burning in hell, the father would be nice enough to let you wonder in space for eternity looking for other forms of life lol
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I question the validity of any god that would torture me in hell merely for not believing something for which there is absolutely no empirical evidence. The fact that you accept this version of god means your logic filter is screwed up. This immorality is in direct conflict with what Jesus preached about turn the other cheek and love thy enemy but that doesn't seem to matter to Xians either.
 
auldone said:
Ya know, I grew up with the belief that "I AM" is an all loving God and that we are all his children. Then as I got older and really saw how the world was and in dealing with my personal issues, I came to the conclusion that there is no all loving God. What God who claims to love us all would put innocent people in harms way? Why would He make us suffer? I know that some believe that our time here on earth is a test...

So after my 3rd heart surgery, I wrote of God. I was 15 at the time.

I NEVER talk religion. As you can see, it's a very touchy subject...

Then about 3 years ago, my grandfather, the greatest man I ever knew, was very ill. He was in a place that I truely hope NOBODY has to ever see any loved one be in. He was 88. Had many medical issues. Mostly brought on by his drinking and smoking cigs. My parents put him in a home with 24hr care...

The last time that I went to see him, my family told me to expect him to not know who you are. He could no longer talk, just make horrible sounds like he was trying to talk but the brain was no longer working...
So when I went to see him, they were right. He was suffering and I could see it in his eyes. I sat there for almost 2 hours holding his hand and balling like I am now... When I got up to leave, I could see in his eyes that he knew I was there. I could also see that he was in pain. Not physical pain...

That night I went home and cried like you wouldn't believe. Then got pissed....

Then I went out to my back yard and for the first time in 20 years, I spoke to God. I asked him to take my grandfather. Take the pain away. Make him whole. Just "Please end his misery"...

At alittle after 2a.m. that same night, He passed.

That single moment made me believe...

Good night people
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OK, Your saying your 88 year old grandfather who had many medical issues, and was so far along he couldn't remember his family most of the time and who was in an immense amount of pain, passed away. And because of the fact that you had asked God to take him a few hours earlier proves to you God is real. We all die my friend, every single last one of us. Anyone you can ever remember in your life is going to die. How does asking God to take your grandfather as he was on his way out already prove that God is real in your eyes? Like you were saying before "What God who claims to love us all would put innocent people in harms way? Why would He make us suffer?" as obviously your grandfather was suffering.
 
the enemy of my enemy is my frient



mindphuk said:
I question the validity of any god that would torture me in hell merely for not
believing something for which there is absolutely no empirical evidence. The fact that you accept this version of god means your logic filter is screwed up. This immorality is in direct conflict with what Jesus preached about turn the other cheek and love thy enemy but that doesn't seem to matter to Xians either.
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i think there is a god, but not like people think a god is, people want to influence others and all this religious writings etc is proof of that, some thing made all this universe and whatever did certainly didn't hang around here. if you want proof there is a god get a telescope
 
DrFever said:
ok i noticed theres alot of bible thumper pot heads :)) so i purpose prove to me theres is a god if not then let it go beleive what you like i know there isnt just political propaganda

like the day when jesus arose from the grave and there was 6 more weeks of winter :clap:

prove to me there is a god cause i call BS on that jesus death date was what 0 and its 2011 AD so your telling me 2011 yrs and still nothing owe he's comeing 2012 right ?????? to end the world and those that dont believe him will all burn in hell
is this not hell were already living in people so believers bring out your guns and prove to me there is a GOD
and if so why hasnt he shown himself already if were his children then why is so many ppl dieing from hunger where the fck is ass clown GOD
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Here's one: WHO GIVES A FUCK? So you don't believe...I think there are bigger issues to worry about instead of pointing out why Christians are full of shit. Your first post is biased against Christians obviously, because I don't see you calling out Muslims or Jews or those crazy fucking Voodoo tribes that thrive in South America and Africa. No, you just wanna be dick and pick on the Christians. I'm not saying I'm Christian, nor am I saying I'm Muslim, atheist, etc..., what I am saying is leave people alone to believe what they want.

And to be quite honest with you, I've met many Muslims and Christians and NONE were not the Bible thumping type(I say MANY, because my line of work permits me to travel). They have hung out, smoked weed with me, lead productive lives, hate war, and don't care if you are atheist. They actually have more in common with my atheist friends than one would realize. I would even go as far as to say that the only difference between them is that one prays at night, the other doesn't. We still get along and don't rag on each other about our beliefs. PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAUSE DIVIDES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T STAND SOMEONE ELSE'S BELIEF AND WANT A REASON TO BASH ANOTHER JUST BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN A GOD YOU DON'T. You are more judgemental than you realize. Let it go bro, their beliefs aren't going to change because you disagree with them.
 
Someone once asked the Dali LLama which is the right
god. He answered "the one that makes you a better person"

Keep lookin, I'm guessing there is room for improvement
 
Ya OP, stop wining about why life isnt fair and people are susceptible to influence . .. . . blah blah blah, go sponser a homeless person to get his/her life together you see what faith means, and not in a christain way wouldnt want to offend you

by the way fainting goats make me laugh so long
 
Yes, I am the True God. Their are no Standards I Expect of you.. . In denying me, your actually accepting me. & in Accepting me, your accepting me. So your screwed either way. But No Worries ! After Death Every One Will Be Granted Marijuana Seeds that Fully Mature In 7 Days. Together we will create strains and get high for eternity,.
 
RawBudzski said:
Yes, I am the True God. Their are no Standards I Expect of you.. . In denying me, your actually accepting me. & in Accepting me, your accepting me. So your screwed either way. But No Worries ! After Death Every One Will Be Granted Marijuana Seeds that Fully Mature In 7 Days. Together we will create strains and get high for eternity,.
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Fuckin sweet!!!
 
RawBudzski said:
Yes, I am the True God. Their are no Standards I Expect of you.. . In denying me, your actually accepting me. & in Accepting me, your accepting me. So your screwed either way. But No Worries ! After Death Every One Will Be Granted Marijuana Seeds that Fully Mature In 7 Days. Together we will create strains and get high for eternity,.
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this sounds fairly logical and easy to follow...no getting up early on Sunday to go and compare clothing...no handing over 20% of my income...no big book of fairy tales to follow...and the only burning bush involved is in my pipe.but can i still pray to the gopher king? he seems to have a better hit and miss ratio then god as it comes to answering prayers.
 
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