Prove to you There's a God?

Marlboro, perfect is a concept.

Marlboro47 said:

My beliefs encourage a Godly understanding and wisdom.
When you say my beliefs encourage ignorance and cruelty I see you as an other anti-christ that diddn't read the bible.
Only someone who read the bible himself will truely understand the religon.
Anyone else is mislead to believe that they understand what they heard.

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Look at this sentence -->"When you say my beliefs encourage ignorance and cruelty I see you as an other anti-christ that diddn't read the bible."

When your bible is criticized, you label that person an Antichrist. This is a demonstration of how your belief encourages ignorance by seeing critical analysis as a threat. If your belief is not allowed to be disputed, then how could you ever identify a mistake? When it is not okay to ask questions, especially when those questions should have easy answers?

Wouldn't you place more trust in something that has been examined and disputed and survived, than something that has never been examined at all?

And of course I have read the bible, although it was many years ago. Since that time I have studied scripture and it interpretations as well as the history of the bible and other texts. It can quite clearly and conclusively be demonstrated that the bible promotes violence, murder, prejudice and racism. I understand that many modern people can mostly ignore those parts of the bible, but were responding to the claim that the bible is the perfect word of god, in which case the examples of malice become quite concerning. The bible presents god as vengeful, jealous and obsessive and commands quite clearly the death of non-believers. To belief something that entails all of this, no matter what positive aspects come with it, would seem to require more of a rationale than faith.

eye exaggerate said:

No, you do not use emotion. Emotion is a fallacy. "E" "MOTION" - energetic motion is what that means.

Ever have a gut feeling? It comes from the gut-brain.

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Emotion is a brain state actually.

emotion is a part of 3 nervous systems we all have. Or, bodies, if you will.

RawBudzski said:

Do you honestly think you understand the bible the way it was intended to be understood?

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The bible to the point: Accept Jesus Christ as your savior and teacher and love him above all else.


Everything else is to expand your knowledge. Why do you think Jesus spoke in parables?

Marlboro, please watch this

[video=youtube;Txp8LhL56rU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txp8LhL56rU[/video]

therefore emotion is controlled by the brain. The brain is not the emotion itself.

Hepheastus420 said:

Or maybe I'm sitting in a tower controlling all of you like little robots and give you each a personality so you can fight over things on RIU.

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Well then fer grief's sake do a better job. This is like watching penguins play foosball.
cheers 'neer.

eye exaggerate said:

emotion is a part of 3 nervous systems we all have. Or, bodies, if you will.

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Jesus talks about using your intelligence over emotions. In specific he says that men need to learn how to use anger for good instead of bad.

eye exaggerate said:

emotion is a part of 3 nervous systems we all have. Or, bodies, if you will.

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They're definitely not bodies... it's an electro-chemical reaction inside the brain.

eye exaggerate said:

emotion is a part of 3 nervous systems we all have. Or, bodies, if you will.

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where did you learn that?

Really? Bodies was used a metaphor - your argument in a nutshell.

This thread makes me want to punch a christian.

Luger, in my 'random' studies.

eye exaggerate said:

Really? Bodies was used a metaphor - your argument in a nutshell.

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why would you use a metaphor when explaining something? especially when you dont tell us its a metaphor

...some christians punch back. You know, there's a time to...

eye exaggerate said:

Luger, in my 'random' studies.

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maybe you should learn to fact check? or at least study a little better

Heisenberg said:

Examples of cruelty in the new testament.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html


If the bible was written by the creator of the universe, how come it doesn't mention any of the fundamental truths we have discovered about the universe? It says nothing of thermodynamics, quantum theory, cosmology, relativity, ect. The bible has all the earmarks of be written by mortals who were ignorant of how the world works, and provides nothing that even hints at divine knowledge. There is no justification for claiming it the word of god, the belief has to be made on faith.

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If the bible truly had divine authorship ... and it didn't mention (unspecified technical/philosophical breakthrough that would lead to interstellar prosperity among posthumans 10000 years from now) I'd accuse that authoring principle of petty sadism. Jmo.

...did I have to tell you?

Does God have to tell you?

eye exaggerate said:

Really? Bodies was used a metaphor - your argument in a nutshell.

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When explaining REAL things let's stay clear of metaphors.....

You can say faith in god is like a seagull floating in the warm wind all day long, but emotion doesn't come from bodies, and you don't think with your heart.