NewGrower2011
Well-Known Member
So I'm looking at a space that is roughly 9'9" x 4'10" (8' ceiling) and was wondering what I could achieve with it. The downside to my dimensions is that the space runs with a door and a window at the narrow walls making the space awkward for working "in" the room along with any setup...
Electrical:
It will likely have a dedicated 20a 120v run to it. Basic heavy-duty timers, etc...
Ventilation:
I will likely have a fan and filter (i.e. have access to a 6" 340cfm with a 550cfm 6"x24" filter) and a couple wall-mounted oscillating fans... I *could* access the attic if needed but would rather avoid making that type of modification if possible. I am concerned about noise and the odor... I know how loud the 6" fan can be so I'm also thinking about a muffler and a speed control.
I was thinking passive on any intakes... The area is still waiting for the doorway to be framed in, so I have easy access to put in some type of grille - but the name of the game is for the outside appearances to appear normal in the home and this door appears to be just a plain old closet... I don't want to have vents on 3 sides of it...
Another consideration is that I see some cheap options out there for variable speed controllers, but I thought I read somewhere that they use resistors/resistance which translates into heat... I think the thing I was reading was about using a true 'stepper' or something where it modified the voltage... and I think it was around $120 or so for a 'right' speed controller... for the sake of me I can't find that info/controller any more though....
Lighting:
Starting with a 4 bulb T5 2-footer and a 6 bulb T5 HO 4-footer. Both have mixed every other bumb grow/bloom at this time... Likely look to add at least another 6 bulb T5 HO 4-footer and possibly make both full of single spectrum (1 full of veg and 1 full of bloom bulbs)... Because of heat concerns, I think I want to try and stay with the T5/CFL type of camp... HID and its fire hazard/heat challenged sounds like more than I want to deal with most likely...
Type of System:
I've gathered most of the equipment needed for a hybrid DWC/Drip-based system - air pumps (2 with 2 outlets, need 3rd), submersible pumps (3), couple choices of tubs, tubing, drip manifold, bubblers, air stones, air check valves - etc. enough for 2 as is or 3 tubs if I pickup a couple more parts. I don't know about the whole recirculating thing and the use of resevoirs with a controller because of it eating up floor space... I did consider interlinking all of my tubs (seperate veg/bloom systems of course) and making them act as 1 resevoir to make managing nutes/topping off/monitoring all that much easier... I'm looking for low maintenance since space will be cramped...
I think my target set of tubs would do well with either 2 big net pots or 4 mediums... though I was told I didn't need big net pots to grow big plants... just better for anchoring perahps (?)...
The 2nd set of tubs I bought are stronger than the 1st ones but they are bigger than I had initially thought about using. They are 18 gallon containers... 22"x26" roughly... they look like those Brutes with the reinforced lid and when full of water showed minimal bowing on the side walls... and they're black with black lids!
For cloning and vegging I intend to do small scale dwc... bubble cloner, etc... I've got the supplies for the tubs/netpots and just need to get a few parts to round that all out and be ready to go from either seed or clone...
Physical Space Layout:
I'd like to have a seperate clone/veg area on 20/4 or 18/6 and then of course a flowering area on 12/12... And I need some strategy for maintaining mother(s). Likely 1 or 2 (or even 3 if I can keep size down and fit 'em)... It is possible I could perhaps manage the clones, small initial veg elsewhere in an alternate space, but if I could keep it all together... that's all the better. There's always that 'other' closet I could modify...
So I'm purely in the theory/planning stages at this point... I've bought some basic supplies, need to buy more obviously... and made some renovations to make it possible...
Now the question for those who've gone before me... What would you setup in this space? I'm open to ideas...
Also, if anyone has any specualtion on - given decent technique / decent plants - what type of yield and frequency could be achieved? Perhaps yield for 'noobie', 'done it a few times' and 'master'... I'm curious as to whether it will even be worth the effort/risks...
Electrical:
It will likely have a dedicated 20a 120v run to it. Basic heavy-duty timers, etc...
Ventilation:
I will likely have a fan and filter (i.e. have access to a 6" 340cfm with a 550cfm 6"x24" filter) and a couple wall-mounted oscillating fans... I *could* access the attic if needed but would rather avoid making that type of modification if possible. I am concerned about noise and the odor... I know how loud the 6" fan can be so I'm also thinking about a muffler and a speed control.
I was thinking passive on any intakes... The area is still waiting for the doorway to be framed in, so I have easy access to put in some type of grille - but the name of the game is for the outside appearances to appear normal in the home and this door appears to be just a plain old closet... I don't want to have vents on 3 sides of it...

Another consideration is that I see some cheap options out there for variable speed controllers, but I thought I read somewhere that they use resistors/resistance which translates into heat... I think the thing I was reading was about using a true 'stepper' or something where it modified the voltage... and I think it was around $120 or so for a 'right' speed controller... for the sake of me I can't find that info/controller any more though....

Lighting:
Starting with a 4 bulb T5 2-footer and a 6 bulb T5 HO 4-footer. Both have mixed every other bumb grow/bloom at this time... Likely look to add at least another 6 bulb T5 HO 4-footer and possibly make both full of single spectrum (1 full of veg and 1 full of bloom bulbs)... Because of heat concerns, I think I want to try and stay with the T5/CFL type of camp... HID and its fire hazard/heat challenged sounds like more than I want to deal with most likely...
Type of System:
I've gathered most of the equipment needed for a hybrid DWC/Drip-based system - air pumps (2 with 2 outlets, need 3rd), submersible pumps (3), couple choices of tubs, tubing, drip manifold, bubblers, air stones, air check valves - etc. enough for 2 as is or 3 tubs if I pickup a couple more parts. I don't know about the whole recirculating thing and the use of resevoirs with a controller because of it eating up floor space... I did consider interlinking all of my tubs (seperate veg/bloom systems of course) and making them act as 1 resevoir to make managing nutes/topping off/monitoring all that much easier... I'm looking for low maintenance since space will be cramped...
I think my target set of tubs would do well with either 2 big net pots or 4 mediums... though I was told I didn't need big net pots to grow big plants... just better for anchoring perahps (?)...
The 2nd set of tubs I bought are stronger than the 1st ones but they are bigger than I had initially thought about using. They are 18 gallon containers... 22"x26" roughly... they look like those Brutes with the reinforced lid and when full of water showed minimal bowing on the side walls... and they're black with black lids!
For cloning and vegging I intend to do small scale dwc... bubble cloner, etc... I've got the supplies for the tubs/netpots and just need to get a few parts to round that all out and be ready to go from either seed or clone...
Physical Space Layout:
I'd like to have a seperate clone/veg area on 20/4 or 18/6 and then of course a flowering area on 12/12... And I need some strategy for maintaining mother(s). Likely 1 or 2 (or even 3 if I can keep size down and fit 'em)... It is possible I could perhaps manage the clones, small initial veg elsewhere in an alternate space, but if I could keep it all together... that's all the better. There's always that 'other' closet I could modify...

So I'm purely in the theory/planning stages at this point... I've bought some basic supplies, need to buy more obviously... and made some renovations to make it possible...
Now the question for those who've gone before me... What would you setup in this space? I'm open to ideas...
Also, if anyone has any specualtion on - given decent technique / decent plants - what type of yield and frequency could be achieved? Perhaps yield for 'noobie', 'done it a few times' and 'master'... I'm curious as to whether it will even be worth the effort/risks...