Quick pic's of my N.E. girls

puck1969 said:

Thanks for the compliment! Every time I wait till the stems break before putting them in jars they just seem to smell like hay and it never recovers...
I think I will be experimenting with different amounts of time drying due the different finishing times of my girls.

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How much sugar leaf do you leave on the buds? I trim everything as close as i can get it cause the less leaf you have the better your smoke is gonna taste. Thats where your hay smell might be coming from. I've jar'd OG kush only hanging for about 5 or 6 days, the stems were still bending, but if u squeeze the buds and the feel pretty dried all the way through, you should be good. you just gotta make sure to burp them more early on cause you'll be suprised how much moisture will still come out of them. Nothing worse than having a successful harvest then getting to the bottom of a jar and finding your buds covered with mold. drying times will vary and is based on airflow, humidity, temp, ect.. having air exchange, or just a good amount of space for the moisture to dissipate in is pretty important.

Alright, major problems with dropping leaves. I have been feeding them with water soluable fert. plus 1/2 tablespoon of molasses... Now when I did this indoors the molasses raised the ph of the water to 7.5 and burned the leaves off the plants.
The same thing is happening to my outdoor grow. I know the large fan leaves tend to drop off during flowering but now the smaller leaves are yellowing and dropping off as evedenced with pic. #3. Why haven't I heard of this on other threads? I feel stupid for making the same mistake again but I don't remember seeing it anywhere else. Is ther an additive I can use to balance the ph?

How much water are you using to dilute your molasses and ferts? Also, how frequently are you watering and feeding? The leaves will yellow if the roots are drowning. Make sure the soil isn't too wet.

Noballs said:

How much water are you using to dilute your molasses and ferts? Also, how frequently are you watering and feeding? The leaves will yellow if the roots are drowning. Make sure the soil isn't too wet.

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No, not too wet, leaves have been drooping a little each time I water. I have been using 1/2 tablespoon per gallon for 3 feedings, feeding them 1/2 strength
water soluable food (Jack's Classic) every 4 day's or so. This problem started when I started using molasses. The same thing happened when I grew indoor
but I thought in god's devine mercy he would SPARE ME OF THIS!!!! I have heard of so many people using molasses outside that I should try it again. What
a fool I am! It's the blackstrap molasses everyone suggested and I figured if I used it half strength it wouldn't be so bad...

i always use grandmothers unsulphured molassess at around the 4th week of bloom with no problems at probably around 1tbsp/gal at least. I usually just judge it by the color of the water now. see if it persists if u stop feeding the molasses

farmer2424 said:

i always use grandmothers unsulphured molassess at around the 4th week of bloom with no problems at probably around 1tbsp/gal at least. I usually just judge it by the color of the water now. see if it persists if u stop feeding the molasses

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I went out to flush today with just water... I hope I haven't done any permanent damage, this along
with the wind has got me freaked out. The hairs on my buds are turning maroon and shrinking back...
It's wayyy too early for them to start finishing. Sorry rambling.....

puck1969 said:

I went out to flush today with just water... I hope I haven't done any permanent damage, this along
with the wind has got me freaked out. The hairs on my buds are turning maroon and shrinking back...
It's wayyy too early for them to start finishing. Sorry rambling.....

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nice grow man.. i don't have enough experience to comment on yellowing... my girls in one location have some larger fan leaves that are yellowing slightly. i stopped adding N about a month ago. they were flowing early because they're in a valley and get less sunlight than they would on flat land. i'm going back to those tomorrow morning and i'll add a little N. i brew aerated compost teas with molasses and for me I know the molasses used in that way doesnt cause problems because my girl in a different location has almost no yellowing (i'm guessing the soil is more N rich). anyways here's a couple pics of the less mature girl with supposedly higher N in the soil.

EDIT: one shot if of some powdery mildew that i removed and then sprayed the whole plant with milk diluted in water. the shot of the big fan leaf is pretty much the extent of all the browning/yellowing that i'm seeing. THAT plus 2-3 other leaves. also, the reason she's so short is because the sun exposure was crap for a while, then i did some landscaping and made life a little better for her

Puck,

This is my first log on since Sunday.

Whats the verdict.... Do I want to see?

Buddy232 said:

Puck,

This is my first log on since Sunday.

Whats the verdict.... Do I want to see?

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LOL I just got power back on from the storm on Sunday!!!!! See next post...

orchiid.wild said:

nice grow man.. i don't have enough experience to comment on yellowing... my girls in one location have some larger fan leaves that are yellowing slightly. i stopped adding N about a month ago. they were flowing early because they're in a valley and get less sunlight than they would on flat land. i'm going back to those tomorrow morning and i'll add a little N. i brew aerated compost teas with molasses and for me I know the molasses used in that way doesnt cause problems because my girl in a different location has almost no yellowing (i'm guessing the soil is more N rich). anyways here's a couple pics of the less mature girl with supposedly higher N in the soil.

EDIT: one shot if of some powdery mildew that i removed and then sprayed the whole plant with milk diluted in water. the shot of the big fan leaf is pretty much the extent of all the browning/yellowing that i'm seeing. THAT plus 2-3 other leaves. also, the reason she's so short is because the sun exposure was crap for a while, then i did some landscaping and made life a little better for her

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Nice job Orchiid, things coming along well for you I see. Some of my plants that have sativa phenotypes have been flowering slowly, I guess it's
still early though so I guess we shouldn't worry too much!

Ok, finally power and internet access. I have found that if you have a crappy phone camera it's better to take pic's at night (see pic #2) you can see the frosting pretty well compared to the daytime photo's.

As you can see I seem to have survived the storm with minimal damage. Just some leaning etc. By the time I got to check on them after the storm (I checked them during) the exedous cheese was starting to wilt. If you have never grown this variety the smell of cheese can be overwhelming! It seems only when it wilts a bit 'cause I watered it and it doesn't smell anywhere near as bad. What a fucked up trait for a plant to have!

The last picture with the large cola is the frosty night picture also, it's the kannibia special fem. and it's the furthest one along so it is featured prominently in this thread. More updates comming by end of the weekend.

P.S. Please please can we get a break with that 2nd hurricane!?!?!?!?!?

The best time to take photographs of anything outside is during the twilight hours. The light is even. The problem with the phone camera besides the fact it's a phone camera is stability. If you could stabilize the phone or rest it on a solid surface there will be less blur. Also I guess it's good to know the limitation of the camera. Unless it has a macromode too close up will always blur. I do think you're shaking a bit and digital light gathering devices hate the shakes. Some people like to take a deep breath and hold it like snipers do before taking a shot.

nice colas puck! Lets hope this second storm nonsense misses us

Looking phenomenal Puck!! And I'm super jealous of the said Cheese smell. I've only got (I think) Blue Dream/similar strain and Sour Bubbles. It's indoor and they've got no colas yet, but I find myself smelling at the bud site where the top cola is going to form on the S-Bubble. That smell of fresh vegetation and light skunky musk is just euphoric for this first timer.

I'm so glad you escaped the storm. Sounds weird but I was seriously thinking about your crop all day Sunday. Those gal's are just to great to go to waste - not to mention all the time, effort, money thats gone into them. I stopped by a realitives house an Sunday and ALL of their Yucca plants were snapped in half. First thing that came to mind was "Oh no... Puck!"



Psych is right about steadiness and taking macro shots. I've been doing that for years, with subjects that averaged about 2.5 inches but ranges down to 5-10mm too. Not only that, they moved around - making it even harder to steady yourself, get the camera focused and get the picture before the whole shot goes awry! Maybe sometime you can teach me the finer points of outdoor growing and I will teach you the art of macro shooting!!!


I don't have to say it but keep it up brother! Those buds are looking great!

Sorry for the totally unrelated thread jack - but hey, you said you didn't mind pictures Puck!!

Here are some examples of what you can do with macro shots. I went browsing through my files and found some old pictures. Being "old", these were taken with now outdated cameras depending on your budget and who you ask. For all of the pictures you see in my growing thread, those are using a 7.1 MP camera which I'm sure theres a lot of peolpe who would consider that outdated now. The pictures below however were from cameras less than 5MP. During the part of my career I took these photos from I was using a 3MP and a 5MP. I went back as far as I could so I could use the least resoultion photos to show my point even better. I beleive these are fom the 3MP. Which was nothing more than one of those Kodak point and shoot's that you can scoop up on sale for not a lot of money.

As for the subjects. I mentioned above, not only do they move around - but most were very small. Pictures one and two are of a species that is only about 2", 2.5". Not only do you want to take the picture, but your also looking to capture the fine detail of the hairs and Carinae (the bumps) on the head and the other parts of the body. Beleive it or not - their not only useful to the scorpions but also to reasearchers as they can (help) identify species, sub-species and local variations.

The last picture is of a species which full grown is <2", however this specimen was only about 1" at the time. Thats a 40 dram vial it's living in and as you can see she had more floor space than most college kids do in their dorms! Keep in mind a typical medicine bottle is like 15 drams maybe? Thats a tiny container realitivly speaking. Because of how tall the vial was though I couldn't get close enough to shoot the subject well, but you can see how good the mottling of the exoskeleton was captured. This right here is a truely beautiful animal - sad thing is they are TINY and can and do kill a lot of folks each year.

Anyone with questions at all on picture taking, feel free to contact me - as you can see I've photographed the tiniest of subjects!



Centruroides margaritatus (Male)



Centruroides margaritatus (Female)



Tityus serrulatus

I'm just glad nobody's trashing the miracle grow potting mix. lol. I use it too. Works good 4 me, as long as you dont feed until mid flowering stage. Stuff already has enough veggie nutes in it.

Buddy232 said:

Sorry for the totally unrelated thread jack - but hey, you said you didn't mind pictures Puck!!

Here are some examples of what you can do with macro shots. I went browsing through my files and found some old pictures. Being "old", these were taken with now outdated cameras depending on your budget and who you ask. For all of the pictures you see in my growing thread, those are using a 7.1 MP camera which I'm sure theres a lot of peolpe who would consider that outdated now. The pictures below however were from cameras less than 5MP. During the part of my career I took these photos from I was using a 3MP and a 5MP. I went back as far as I could so I could use the least resoultion photos to show my point even better. I beleive these are fom the 3MP. Which was nothing more than one of those Kodak point and shoot's that you can scoop up on sale for not a lot of money.

As for the subjects. I mentioned above, not only do they move around - but most were very small. Pictures one and two are of a species that is only about 2", 2.5". Not only do you want to take the picture, but your also looking to capture the fine detail of the hairs and Carinae (the bumps) on the head and the other parts of the body. Beleive it or not - their not only useful to the scorpions but also to reasearchers as they can (help) identify species, sub-species and local variations.

The last picture is of a species which full grown is <2", however this specimen was only about 1" at the time. Thats a 40 dram vial it's living in and as you can see she had more floor space than most college kids do in their dorms! Keep in mind a typical medicine bottle is like 15 drams maybe? Thats a tiny container realitivly speaking. Because of how tall the vial was though I couldn't get close enough to shoot the subject well, but you can see how good the mottling of the exoskeleton was captured. This right here is a truely beautiful animal - sad thing is they are TINY and can and do kill a lot of folks each year.

Anyone with questions at all on picture taking, feel free to contact me - as you can see I've photographed the tiniest of subjects!



Centruroides margaritatus (Male)

Centruroides margaritatus (Female)

Tityus serrulatus

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LOL Thanks for the input and suggestions buddy, I am kinda an insect freak so those pic's were super cool! Any help I can give
you on the growing front I would love to help. Keep up the good work with the grow, you will be sooo happy with the results
I am sure. Just keep it simple and remember, we are growing a very hardy plant that will take some mistakes if they are made.
Hey if you are in my area maybe I can get you a sample of some cheese! LOL I will take your advice with the camara thing and
prop my hand with a branch or something.

Morning Puck,

Glad you liked the pictures! Later in the day I felt bad for posting such large, non-related pictures on your thread (not to mention on a cannabis forum, haha) - but I felt they got the point across about how well even a simple point and shoot camera can take photos. Don't get me wrong though, I had years of bad shots that I threw away and even while taking pictures like the ones above, those 3 shots equate to about 10 real life pictures before I was truely satisfied. Working with those subjects wasn't easy either for obvious reasons. Some I could get closer to than others as their temper differs between species. As I mentioned in the last picture - that species is truely a lethal animals and pose a serious threat in it's native region. If I were to be stung and had a significant amount of venom injected, I'd be D-U-N done, as there wouldn't even be time to get anti-venom from Brazil to Rhode Island. But for the most part they were fairly docile creatures and if they happened to get you (in 10 years I never once was envenomated) it would be nothing worse than a bald face hornet sting. Studying them was very exciting and it helped me learn a lot of the sterotypes of science. For one, I worked closely with a species that had been documented not to breed in captivity. It was a desert dwelling species and thus most husbandry techniques mimicked it's natural enviroment. Well finally I learned how the species bred and documented the whole process. All I did was setup different controlled enviroments. One being the EXACT opposite of while you'd find in the desert. Something like 80º and 85% humidity all the time. Well guess what my best test setup was... that one! Seems this species enjoys digging burrows 15-20 feet down. (Which researchers knew but didn't find important.) They also liked to build them into hill faces. Why? Because down that far you have stable temperature and humidity to raise fragile young (I found these were the most fragile I'd ever worked with too). Having your burrow opening on the side of a hill allows air to flow right in and out and prevent any stagnant build up and again keep the living conditions stable (or on a stable day/night pattern).

How it took me 2 years (the gestation period for the scorpions was >12 months alone) to figure something out that no one else had in 30 years. I have no clue. Question everything my friends!



Okay 100% done with "bug" talk for good

Other than steadying yourself, if your using a real camera... try gently pushing the shoot button a few times before you actually completely depress it to take the photo. On all the cameras I've used, doing that helps the lens lock in on it's subject. If your going to whip out the camera phone as you have been, I know my wife and my Android phones if you tap the screen (in the general area where you want the focus to be) then it will try to focus on that point. Usually it pop's up with a green frame on the screen and from there I try to gingerly tap the shoot button. I am thinking about making a photography tutorial, even though I'm sure there are some on here. I can explain things fairly well and with a lot of pictures to assist I think I could help some folks out.

Try it out if you make it out to the field today!
Bud

Buddy232 said:

Morning Puck,

Glad you liked the pictures! Later in the day I felt bad for posting such large, non-related pictures on your thread (not to mention on a cannabis forum, haha) - but I felt they got the point across about how well even a simple point and shoot camera can take photos. Don't get me wrong though, I had years of bad shots that I threw away and even while taking pictures like the ones above, those 3 shots equate to about 10 real life pictures before I was truely satisfied. Working with those subjects wasn't easy either for obvious reasons. Some I could get closer to than others as their temper differs between species. As I mentioned in the last picture - that species is truely a lethal animals and pose a serious threat in it's native region. If I were to be stung and had a significant amount of venom injected, I'd be D-U-N done, as there wouldn't even be time to get anti-venom from Brazil to Rhode Island. But for the most part they were fairly docile creatures and if they happened to get you (in 10 years I never once was envenomated) it would be nothing worse than a bald face hornet sting. Studying them was very exciting and it helped me learn a lot of the sterotypes of science. For one, I worked closely with a species that had been documented not to breed in captivity. It was a desert dwelling species and thus most husbandry techniques mimicked it's natural enviroment. Well finally I learned how the species bred and documented the whole process. All I did was setup different controlled enviroments. One being the EXACT opposite of while you'd find in the desert. Something like 80º and 85% humidity all the time. Well guess what my best test setup was... that one! Seems this species enjoys digging burrows 15-20 feet down. (Which researchers knew but didn't find important.) They also liked to build them into hill faces. Why? Because down that far you have stable temperature and humidity to raise fragile young (I found these were the most fragile I'd ever worked with too). Having your burrow opening on the side of a hill allows air to flow right in and out and prevent any stagnant build up and again keep the living conditions stable (or on a stable day/night pattern).

How it took me 2 years (the gestation period for the scorpions was >12 months alone) to figure something out that no one else had in 30 years. I have no clue. Question everything my friends!



Okay 100% done with "bug" talk for good

Other than steadying yourself, if your using a real camera... try gently pushing the shoot button a few times before you actually completely depress it to take the photo. On all the cameras I've used, doing that helps the lens lock in on it's subject. If your going to whip out the camera phone as you have been, I know my wife and my Android phones if you tap the screen (in the general area where you want the focus to be) then it will try to focus on that point. Usually it pop's up with a green frame on the screen and from there I try to gingerly tap the shoot button. I am thinking about making a photography tutorial, even though I'm sure there are some on here. I can explain things fairly well and with a lot of pictures to assist I think I could help some folks out.

Try it out if you make it out to the field today!
Bud

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Thanks again, I would try to avoid a bald face hornet sting at all costs! They are very agressive... I gotta go to my spot early
A.M. due to the proximity to buisnesses and the public...

hey im in N.E to growing and i got one female left the other 4 turned out to be male and this is my first time so im just excited that i was able to get them growing next season will be much better but im just wondering when you guys in this area plan to harvest ? I no there are many variables but just like an estimate maybe and i will try to get a few pictures of mine to show you guys.