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curious2garden

curious2garden

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
typical knee jerk reactions....it's too hard to treat a substance responsibly, so just get rid of it all together, even though it could help some of the people with severe problems....no thought at all of policing it more rigorously...
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You have to be able to read the statistics and ask why they chose to design the studies the way they did as well as who drew what inferences from the studies. When you begin to parse apart the statistics and study design you begin to realize this is not merely an uneducated reaction but a targeting of a specific population for financial reasons.

Unfortunately it will fool most of the scientifically unsophisticated into believing exactly what you posted.
 
curious2garden

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BarnBuster said:
Yeah that's what this Bloom was talking about, especially about the 90 MME(?) for everyone and not taking in account each person's ability to process the pain meds in his/her liver. Also the fact the CDC had no business issuing guidelines in the first place. AND, pain meds should be titrated to each person's ability to function. AND some surgeons won't be able/allowed to prescribe meds after certain surgeries. Definitely made me want to be more aware of the situation. This is the gist of what I remember.
https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/11/05/who-telling-truth-about-prescription-opioid-deaths-dea-cdc-neither-13569
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MME is morphine milligram equivalents. We measure all pain medications relative to their morphine efficiency. There are conversion tables used when switching between different pain relievers that address this equivalency.

The CDC does have a responsibility to issue guidelines in consultation with primary stakeholders. However they also have the responsibility to make note that guidelines are not bright line rules and do not replace the judgment of an individual's practitioner and on that front they were seriously deficient.
 
tyler.durden

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curious2garden said:
You have to be able to read the statistics and ask why they chose to design the studies the way they did as well as who drew what inferences from the studies. When you begin to parse apart the statistics and study design you begin to realize this is not merely an uneducated reaction but a targeting of a specific population for financial reasons.

Unfortunately it will fool most of the scientifically unsophisticated into believing exactly what you posted.
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curious2garden said:
MME is morphine milligram equivalents. We measure all pain medications relative to their morphine efficiency. There are conversion tables used when switching between different pain relievers that address this equivalency.

The CDC does have a responsibility to issue guidelines in consultation with primary stakeholders. However they also have the responsibility to make note that guidelines are not bright line rules and do not replace the judgment of an individual's practitioner and on that front they were seriously deficient.
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Man, are we lucky to have our own doctor in the house, or what??? It still blows my mind that we have these technical experts on the wackiest subforum of a pot site. Thanks, Annie, for your insight and technical expertise helping us to understand these medical and scientific issues. I learn more than I bargained for here. RIU forever...
 
curious2garden

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tyler.durden said:
Man, are we lucky to have our own doctor in the house, or what??? It still blows my mind that we have these technical experts on the wackiest subforum of a pot site. Thanks, Annie, for your insight and technical expertise helping us to understand these medical and scientific issues. I learn more than I bargained for here. RIU forever...
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Thank you Tyler that is very kind. The diversity of this forum is incredible, there is an expert here on almost every subject, from talented artists like yourself to pure scientists like Malt and CN and everything in between. The appreciation of cannabis seems to bring us all together.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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curious2garden said:
You have to be able to read the statistics and ask why they chose to design the studies the way they did as well as who drew what inferences from the studies. When you begin to parse apart the statistics and study design you begin to realize this is not merely an uneducated reaction but a targeting of a specific population for financial reasons.

Unfortunately it will fool most of the scientifically unsophisticated into believing exactly what you posted.
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https://www.policymed.com/2017/10/class-action-suits-over-opioid-epidemic-ramping-up.html

at least a few people see through the shit
 
mr sunshine

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curious2garden said:
Thank you Tyler that is very kind. The diversity of this forum is incredible, there is an expert here on almost every subject, from talented artists like yourself to pure scientists like Malt and CN and everything in between. The appreciation of cannabis seems to bring us all together.
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You've saved me a few hundred bucks already. You were right the bump on my cock did go away.
 
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