RC'z

selfmedikate said:

2c-i ,5-meo-dmt,bk-mdma,4-aco-dmt. your experiences???

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i didn't know 5-meo-dmt is an rc?! atleast its not n,n-DMT!

i love to study bk-mdma. my buddy just received his order today actually. gives me a lot of euphoria, makes you very social, very speedy, and a very nice body buzz. no hang over. is a very good party additive. but can be a little compulsive on the redosing so be careful. also be ready to be clenching your jaw all night.

2ci. ive received mixed results. ive studied it about 5 times. 1st time about 13mg. very little effects. 2nd time about 22mg. very speedy like high. with nice visuals. i did it alone which was kinda boring. 3rd and 4th time 19mg + 5mg a couple hours in and 20 mg respectively. the boost on the 3rd time just extended the experience. didnt really increase the effects. and the fourth time was like the 3rd just lasted not as long. both times ive received tracers, buzzing of the vision, waving objects, blurred vision. not too trippy or euphoric mentally. slight body buzz but i had to think about it. overall each time was pretty uneventful. the 5th time however... i mixed it with 40 mg of ambien. i was already high on the ambien when i decided to dose. if you have never been high on ambien it makes you very forgetful and confused. puts you in a drunken/benzo like high. i started with snorting about half a gel cap filled with aprox. 20 mg. i say aprox because the scale i used only goes to .00g. and i measured to .02g. it burned a little but not as bad as all the reports ive read. (ive snorted much more painful substances) the effects came on nice and quick. less than five minutes. i then proceeded to snort the other half sometime later. i forget how long later exactly. this was the best time out of all my experiences. put me in a dream like state. same visuals as before. but very trippy mentally. partly because i forgot i took it. due to the ambien. so i kept thinking someone drugged me. i sent a text to my friend during the experience. "i think someone drugged me. they had to have. those cheeky bastards! how are we going to get them back?!" i cannot even begin to explain it. i kept thinking people were around me. i had conversations with no one. and i ended up shaving part of my eyebrow off.

as for 4-aco-dmt its on my list. according to erowid it breaks down into psilocisin in your body. which is exactly what shrooms breaks down into. its like boomers but more euphoric, more visuals, and less nausea. almost too good to be true.

I really like Dmt and I have very limited research with 2c-i and would really like to study it more as well as the others. Im not really a fan of the 4-aco-dmt as i dislike mushrooms. but would be interesting in checking it out.

2c-i: Have not tried, I have heard a lot of hit or miss with it, you either love it or you hate it. I think it is more prone to HPPD than many of the other 2c-x's which is a turn-off for me.. but to each his own. I can personally recommend 2c-e.

5-MeO-DMT: I personally loved 5-MeO! It can be a little overwhelming from what I have experienced, so start small. It is an interesting creature, somewhat similar to DMT but at the same time, very different. I feel that 5-MeO is like a dissociative-psychedelic with a little bit of an euphoriant twist. I would recommend assuming you take into account set & setting. It is a very powerful substance.

bk-mdma: Methylone is pretty badass! It is definitely MDMA, but it is very enjoyable nonetheless. I really think it has some therapeutic value. The euphoria is similar to MDMA but feels more natural (a lot less synthetic feeling). I would definitely recommend giving it a go if you like mdma.

4-AcO-DMT: I have not had the chance to try psilacetin yet, but being an ester of Psilocin, it should carry a bit of the characteristics of shrooms.

2c-i i love personally,have taken high doses upto 120mg fucking wonderful chemical although every 2c-x i have taken have been brilliant,60mg of 2c-e was probably 1 of they most insane trips of my life took it at a festival called rockness along with a gram of MDMA walked out the tent and thought everything was made of playdoh missed everything that night still had a brilliant time though.

5-MEO-DMT i have never tried although i would love too

bk-MDMA i like this chemical i find it the closest feeling too proper MDMA although i dont enjoy taking stimulants alot of the time im a psychedelic kinda guy.

4-AcO-DMT i found too be a wonderful chemical with doses upto 75mg kinda similar too shrooms but not,very very interesting substance.

a quote from my atheist friend regarding bk-mdma...

"If there was a god he would make us feel like this all the time!"

just something to think about.

very interesting keep your research coming. thank you all

also please post reasearch results with Mephedrone and methylone. thank you

Mephedrone: Like a mix of coke & e. Rather strong, albeit rather short lasting. The euphoria nearly rivals that of E but the duration of Ecstasy's plateau puts Mephedrone to shame. All in all, a good buy for the money if you are able to refrain from constantly redosing. With responsible hands, this is a novel substance in my opinion.

Methylone: Personally, I am a big fan of methylone. It is rather mdma-like in nature; albeit the feeling is far less synthetic. I think it should be utilized in psychotherapy in all honesty as it is more functional than mdma and it gives the benefit of the same style state of altered consciousness.

shepj said:

Mephedrone: Like a mix of coke & e. Rather strong, albeit rather short lasting. The euphoria nearly rivals that of E but the duration of Ecstasy's plateau puts Mephedrone to shame. All in all, a good buy for the money if you are able to refrain from constantly redosing. With responsible hands, this is a novel substance in my opinion.

Methylone: Personally, I am a big fan of methylone. It is rather mdma-like in nature; albeit the feeling is far less synthetic. I think it should be utilized in psychotherapy in all honesty as it is more functional than mdma and it gives the benefit of the same style state of altered consciousness.

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my friend said the same thing about methylone in the fact that he thinks it would have great benefits in therapy. he says "it allows you to open and share your thoughts. but its not like a forced drug thing. you always think and feel this way. this just lets you be open about it" he loves the stuff now thanks to me.

does mephedrone have a shorter or longer plateau than methylone, shep? i find the peak of a methylone trip at 200mg without a redose or bump to last about an hour.

CreepyStevie69 said:

"it allows you to open and share your thoughts. but its not like a forced drug thing. you always think and feel this way. this just lets you be open about it"

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Spot on.

CreepyStevie69 said:

does mephedrone have a shorter or longer plateau than methylone, shep? i find the peak of a methylone trip at 200mg without a redose or bump to last about an hour.

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Mephedrone's plateau is only like 30 minutes, so Methylone's is longer.. but I don't think methylone is nearly as potent.

thats kind of a bummer.

so with a bump does it extend it at all. sometimes i find when i redose/bump methylone it just prolongs the speediness and energy. not so much the euphoria and love. its still there dont get me wrong but maybe about half as strong as the peak.

(sorry if im jacking this. i feel its still on topic)

tried a low, oral dose of 2c-i last night for the first time.... really mellow and clearheaded, seems like it could be nice at higher doses... contemplating trying a little 2c-e today, but I have a research paper to work on, and dont have a good record with continuing my homework when trying out a completely new substance .

gogrow said:

contemplating trying a little 2c-e today, but I have a research paper to work on, and dont have a good record with continuing my homework when trying out a completely new substance .

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Unless your research paper includes trippy ass deep psychedelic thought, I would do 2c-e another day.

CreepyStevie69 said:

so with a bump does it extend it at all.

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I have noticed that bumps of Mephedrone are actually very effective... even if you wait until later in the experience to take a bump.

You guys remind me of Phineas Freak from the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers

shepj said:

Unless your research paper includes trippy ass deep psychedelic thought, I would do 2c-e another day.

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I've decided this as well.... My scale only weighs down to .01, so I'm guessing around in 10mg increments and could be in for more than i bargained for.... I'll wait till tomorrow when I can enjoy it properly

gogrow said:

I've decided this as well.... My scale only weighs down to .01, so I'm guessing around in 10mg increments and could be in for more than i bargained for.... I'll wait till tomorrow when I can enjoy it properly

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If it registers as .00 before you reach .01 then that's fine, use really tiny increments. If you have good accuracy (a .01 scale probably has ±5mg tolerance), you should be fine. If you are going to use insufflation as your ROA, you may be in for a little more than you bargained for.. if orally, no biggie.

shepj said:

If it registers as .00 before you reach .01 then that's fine, use really tiny increments. If you have good accuracy (a .01 scale probably has ±5mg tolerance), you should be fine. If you are going to use insufflation as your ROA, you may be in for a little more than you bargained for.. if orally, no biggie.

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i dunno its margin of error, its an old centogram balance I stole from biology years back in highschool.... I'm thinking of making a little vial up by mixing the 100mgs with 10ml everclear and go from there..... any reason why that wont work sir??

and yes, definately no insufflation until i have a nice mg scale... thought that one over last night

a solution works great. i did a 1:1 ration however. i think you should do that too since dealing with small increments. that way 1ml of everclear equals 1 mg. if you do it that way it would be 1 ml equals 10mgs.