Recieved clones in poor health how to fix them?

Brettz

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Regardless of the nutrient line, the coco needs to be fed first before any plants go into it. If a nutrient line has a lot of calmag, then it just means you don't need a separate calmag additive, but you still have to buffer.
Cana coco coir apparently already washed and buffered.
 

ec121

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Jus stil figuring out every deficienecy as alot syptoms are similar...
You should watch this. 1.5 or 2x speed works because it's a live lecture
Cana coco coir apparently already washed and buffered.
Haven't used that yet, but yeah, I've heard of people just running with it straight out of the bag.

You think light stress. From 80 watt 3-4 ft away
Didn't you have it at 160W before you dimmed it down? Got a pic? How's it doing?
 

Brettz

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I gena get one now.
You should watch this. 1.5 or 2x speed works because it's a live lecture

Haven't used that yet, but yeah, I've heard of people just running with it straight out of the bag.


Didn't you have it at 160W before you dimmed it down? Got a pic? How's it doing?
I did for few days to help with temperature cold.now even with heater on led dont giv off muxh eat.

Picture below looking alot better.
 

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coreywebster

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You think light stress. From 80 watt 3-4 ft away
You wouldn't expect it ey.. but I've seen it many times, besides you said you were at higher wattage.

If there's no radiant heat, you need higher air temps to help the plant transpird and metabolise.

Seen many a grower struggle, especially in veg, including myself when I switched from HID.
 

Brettz

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You wouldn't expect it ey.. but I've seen it many times, besides you said you were at higher wattage.

If there's no radiant heat, you need higher air temps to help the plant transpird and metabolise.

Seen many a grower struggle, especially in veg, including myself when I switched from HID.
I was at 160 for two days mate.

Yeh hid to led.lot different aint it.
 

Brettz

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Back on track .
How we got there incase anyone elses plant looked like mine.

Added calnag half dosage.
Also foliar spray calmag when lights was off twice in last 5 days.
Upped temp to 77.
Have stil been feeding everyday to run off why theyve been looking sad.
Ec 1.2-1.4
Ph 5. 8-6.2
I upped light to 50% last two days as plants was looking better.
 

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ec121

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I upped light to 50% last two days as plants was looking better.
1 - receive clones with interveinal chlorosis over entire plant
2 - place under T5 lighting
3 - clones start looking better
4 - place them under 160W
5 - interveinal chlorosis worsens again

6 - back light down to 80W, use calmag supp to cover all bases just in case
7 - clones start looking better
8 - immediately double the light wattage

Like, you don't want to give them a week to chill first? If you don't have a PAR meter and you haven't used the light manufacturer's PAR maps to do the calculations for your distance and dim settings, you should make your life easier and spend a few bucks on an iOS PAR app like Photone. Not perfect, but it's better than guesstimating.

But glad they're looking good!

But bro, do you really have electrical running all over the bottom of your tent right next to plants?
Did you really tie a power cable into a knot?
 

Brettz

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1 - receive clones with interveinal chlorosis over entire plant
2 - place under T5 lighting
3 - clones start looking better
4 - place them under 160W
5 - interveinal chlorosis worsens again

6 - back light down to 80W, use calmag supp to cover all bases just in case
7 - clones start looking better
8 - immediately double the light wattage

Like, you don't want to give them a week to chill first? If you don't have a PAR meter and you haven't used the light manufacturer's PAR maps to do the calculations for your distance and dim settings, you should make your life easier and spend a few bucks on an iOS PAR app like Photone. Not perfect, but it's better than guesstimating.

But glad they're looking good!

But bro, do you really have electrical running all over the bottom of your tent right next to plants?
Did you really tie a power cable into a knot?
That aint in a not. Lol. And its off the floor.
 

Brettz

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Has to be off floor why watering to run off. These go into autopots soon. Do no water goes on tent floor. And tha plug wil get cabled tied to the side.. at moment its off the floor tho. I no from picture looks on the floor lol
 

Brettz

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Ive got the app on my fone. I doe thinkw ss anyfing to do with light wattage at 80 or 160. No calmag. Ppfd is 380. Thats fien for vegging plants
 

Brettz

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Hopefully dumone can learn from my mistake this time round. I normañy give calmag all time but someone told me ive got it in my tao wster and base nutes. This myt be ok for some geneticd but not these ones so id reccomend calmag in coco especialy under led.
cheers for peoples iput.

Banns cake in house geneticd.
 

cush cush

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I recieved clones a week ago they were potted up into one litre pots of coco.

I been growing few years now but stil find it hard to bring sik plant bak to gd health as lots of deficiencies have similar syptoms.

Ive got light on 25% until they loook better.
Light is 320 watt led. 3 ft away.
Ive been feeding 1.2ec to run off for lqst fove days.

Yday because all roots was hanging out bottom i potted them up to 4 litre pots. Coco70% perlite 30%.
Used great white In wholes.
Then fed cana a&b and rhizotonic 1.4 ec. Ph 5.9 , 10-20% run off.
And fed today 400 mil each to run off?

Should i let them.get a little dry bak Until they perk up?.


Some help me get them bak on track asap please.
Cheers growmies
Order a product called HB 101 plant revitalizer. It is totally organic and it really works within a couple of days you'll be amazed at the results. Follow directions
 

ec121

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That aint in a not. Lol. And its off the floor.
Lol, dude, a loose knot is still a knot and isn't safe. I can see power cables going underneath the plant risers, lol. It's good advice to keep electrical above waist level.

As for autopots, have you grown coco in autopots before?
 

Brettz

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Lol, dude, a loose knot is still a knot and isn't safe. I can see power cables going underneath the plant risers, lol. It's good advice to keep electrical above waist level.

As for autopots, have you grown coco in autopots before?
Yeh for abput 4 years with good results.
 

ec121

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Go to 5.8 PH and 2.7-2.8 EC and you will be happy.
Maybe he will be happy, but his plants probably won't be. The plants are not expecting double the EC and will not have enough sugars in the roots to process the increased salinity of the water. This will instead pull water out from the roots and cause the plants to expend energy on manufacturing new sugars instead of on new growth.

If one wants to blast their plants with really high EC feeds, then he or she needs to gradually build the plants up for it so they have time to manufacture enough sugars without placing osmotic stress on the plant. We've all seen videos of what happens when someone decides to try and double their max bench press or squat on a particular day.
 
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