Recommend fertilizer for Veg stage

Sberarducci

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yes...you will have better luck with fox farm......or any other good organic potting soil. I have used others that also worked well, but i like my results with fox farm
Okay I will do that, might be hard to get all the soil off I don’t want to mess with the roots.
 

PJ Diaz

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Ohhhhh okay ! I seee you don’t think it will stress the plant even more ? Do you recommend the epsom salt ? I’ll get some fox farm tomorrow
At this stage the fox farm soil will have enough nutrients to keep the plant happy for a couple of weeks on just water. Epsom salt is magnesium and sulphur, which are both essential nutrients for cannabis. Depending on what you settle on as a base nutrient , you may or may not need the epsom salt. I personally do use it along with my base nutes. Some base nutrients have more magnesium than others. When adding magnesium, you also want to consider how much calcium you have, as the two are antagonists to each other. So, if you have low levels of Ca already, adding epsom salts will actually hurt your plants as it will begin to make Cal unavailable. This is why people sometimes use "cal-mag", which you'll find is an often debated topic around these parts.

As far as stress, your plants will be super happy to be out of that miracle grow soil and into a decent soil, more so than the stress they will endure.
 

Sberarducci

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At this stage the fox farm soil will have enough nutrients to keep the plant happy for a couple of weeks on just water. Epsom salt is magnesium and sulphur, which are both essential nutrients for cannabis. Depending on what you settle on as a base nutrient , you may or may not need the epsom salt. I personally do use it along with my base nutes. Some base nutrients have more magnesium than others. When adding magnesium, you also want to consider how much calcium you have, as the two are antagonists to each other. So, if you have low levels of Ca already, adding epsom salts will actually hurt your plants as it will begin to make Cal unavailable. This is why people sometimes use "cal-mag", which you'll find is an often debated topic around these parts.

As far as stress, your plants will be super happy to be out of that miracle grow soil and into a decent soil, more so than the stress they will endure.
I heard of people in here using fox farm & cal mag together & doing just fine so I can see that !
Also do you think I should upgrade the pot size ?

Fertilizer have you ever heard of this stuff they had it at the hydro store. I assume it’s a fertilizer?

 

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PJ Diaz

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I heard of people in here using fox farm & cal mag together & doing just fine so I can see that !
Also do you think I should upgrade the pot size ?

Fertilizer have you ever heard of this stuff they had it at the hydro store. I assume it’s a fertilizer?

I've never used that product, but I'm sure it's good shit. Likely overpriced since it came from the hydro store. The funny thing is that fish shit is a waste product which they are reselling for profit. It isn't going to be a complete fertilizer however. You're going to want to decide if you are going to try for an organic base nute or a synthetic nute. Both are fine, and it's also ok to use synthetic nutes in organic soil, but you want one consistent base nute that you feed and tailor everything else around. If you are going organic you may want to look into the earth juice line, or even a simple dry organic feed from your local hardware store. If you are going to do synthetic base nutes, then I'd suggest a one-part powder, such as hrdroponic research veg+bloom:
 

Sberarducci

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I've never used that product, but I'm sure it's good shit. Likely overpriced since it came from the hydro store. The funny thing is that fish shit is a waste product which they are reselling for profit. It isn't going to be a complete fertilizer however. You're going to want to decide if you are going to try for an organic base nute or a synthetic nute. Both are fine, and it's also ok to use synthetic nutes in organic soil, but you want one consistent base nute that you feed and tailor everything else around. If you are going organic you may want to look into the earth juice line, or even a simple dry organic feed from your local hardware store. If you are going to do synthetic base nutes, then I'd suggest a one-part powder, such as hrdroponic research veg+bloom:
I do have an actual fish in it lol can I use that water if I wanted or I shouldn’t ?
so if I use that I don’t have to use another fertilizer on top of that ? I heard a lot of good things about this product !
 

Cavoszia

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I fed my plant on Wednesday the newer leaves are developing yellow tips ? Do you think it’s light stress ? Magnesium deficiency? Copper deficiency? Tell me what you think?(I am a new grower keep that in mind)
I fried some babies feeding them food at the same stage you're in for this pic. I suggest 25% of the recommended dosage stations at 5 set of true leaves and straight water until then. Those yellow leaves pale in comparison to fertilizer toxicity when u think your babies won't recover. Good luck
 

PJ Diaz

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I do have an actual fish in it lol can I use that water if I wanted or I shouldn’t ?
so if I use that I don’t have to use another fertilizer on top of that ? I heard a lot of good things about this product !
You could, but I wouldn't unless you really know what you're doing. In aquaponics there are multiple chambers between the fish and the plants, first to remove the solids, and next a chamber where the bacteria does the job of converting ammonia into nitrates usable by the plants.

Just stick with the KISS method, and don't over complicate things for your first run. The worst thing new growers do is hyper-manage their plants to death.
 

Sberarducci

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You could, but I wouldn't unless you really know what you're doing. In aquaponics there are multiple chambers between the fish and the plants, first to remove the solids, and next a chamber where the bacteria does the job of converting ammonia into nitrates usable by the plants.

Just stick with the KISS method, and don't over complicate things for your first run. The worst thing new growers do is hyper-manage their plants to death.
This is all true .. unfortunately lol but okay thanks
Should I size up a pot when i repot or leave it in the pot it’s in now ?
 

Sberarducci

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the bigger pot the better.
We’ll not too big or you risk over watering ? No?

i also saw this post about burrying the Stem more. Should I bury mine more ? Or is it pointless now ?
 

Sberarducci

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no as long as the pots have good drainage. Have you considered fabric pots? Smart pots? thats what we use, they give good aeration to the root system and drain well.
move used fabric pot before & they are not bad I could get come I was told I should go by gallon I should go by inches of the pot.
 
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