Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[boblawblah421]

Should a compost tea be diluted with H2O when being applied as a foliar spray or soil spray?

No need to dilute compost teas if they are prepared well. I'm not keen on any foliar during their day. A cool morning, right before lights are on, or the sun is up, is when I like to do my foliars.

Apparently if your tea is brewed in a clockwise vortex, bacterial colonization dominates the fungal. Counterclockwise apparently booms out a more fungal tea. I didn't bookmark the page I found this info, like a dumb shit, but it was a scholarly article from some university. Maybe Colorado. Maybe I hit the bowl too many times and switched the directions up. Hopefully not.

Anyways... Along with the direction of your vortex, you can encourage a more fungal tea by skipping the castings, and buying a bag of mushroom compost from Lowes. Better yet, find it locally. Now skip the kelp and molasses. If you have any mycorrhizal products laying around use them along with the mushroom compost. Feed the fungi some alfalfa, aloe/yucca, and oatmeal.

When I want a more fungal based tea, I will take the mushroom compost, alfalfa, and ground oatmeal, and mix them all together. I then make sure it is damp, set it in a light proof bucket with the lid lightly set on top of it, and put it somewhere warm and dark. Come back in a couple days and you should see mycelium growing in your bucket.

After you've done this, and brewed your tea with your new mycelium cake and some aloe or yucca, for somewhere between 10-18 hours (the longer the brew, the more bacterial your tea will be), filter it with a paint strainer, or something of a similar micron size. Too small of a micron and you will filter out the fungi. The fungi actually grow in size in your tea, as opposed to the bacteria that reproduce.

Hit your ladies with this right before a slightly cooler morning, undiluted. Foliar or soil. They'll dig it.

 

[Mohican]

Thanks!

Did any of you see the article about how an antifungal foot cream kills HIV?

 

[boblawblah421]

I bet my compost tea kills HIV.

I did a flood and drain setup a while ago. It was all organic, but my soil recipe was far from where it should have been. I had way to much guano, bone meal, and a bunch off hot amendments in my soil, and did not let it cook for even a small period of time.

My results were on point though.

Ya know why?

I flooded it with compost tea every day, sometimes twice a day.

All that hot shit I had in my dirt just composted down.

Making sure you have 40+ gallons of healthy compost tea every day is a lot of work though.

 

[st0wandgrow]

I bet my compost tea kills HIV.

I did a flood and drain setup a while ago. It was all organic, but my soil recipe was far from where it should have been. I had way to much guano, bone meal, and a bunch off hot amendments in my soil, and did not let it cook for even a small period of time.

My results were on point though.

Ya know why?

I flooded it with compost tea every day, sometimes twice a day.

All that hot shit I had in my dirt just composted down.

Making sure you have 40+ gallons of healthy compost tea every day is a lot of work though.

40 gallons a day?

Are you bathing in it?

 

[foreverflyhi]

curious if anyone uses nectars? either feed or foliar? Blue agave nectar is abundant in nutrient. just not sure If its beneficial for plants..

 

[st0wandgrow]

curious if anyone uses nectars? either feed or foliar? Blue agave nectar is abundant in nutrient. just not sure If its beneficial for plants..

Might be a good carb source for microbes when brewing an ACT.

 

[Mohican]

I put it in my coffee every morning

 

[boblawblah421]

Just salvaged 200+ gallons of soil from my guerilla grow this year.

Freakin sweet.

Long night. I need a shower, and maybe another bowl of this Swiss Cheese.

 

[boblawblah421]

40 gallons a day?

Are you bathing in it?

The gals were drinking heavily, and compost tea for every watering was my saving grace. Also, flood and drain is about the least efficient method of irrigation, as far as water/nutrient consumption go that is. My yield was outstanding. That shit tasted like a grape jolly rancher, and weighed in right under 2.5lbs per 1000w.

By the way... I know not of this "bathing" thing in which you speak of. Is that like when I wipe the dirt off my hands onto my pants?

 

[foreverflyhi]

I just bought a shot glass of dutch white clover seeds for 4.50, was curious if anyone grows this and collects seeds?

 

[alien mushroomhead]

Hey guys I have some questions about aloe gel. I just got some Lily of the desert aloe vera gel. I sprayed leaves and soil drenched @ 2tbsp per gallon water.

Just went back through and was reading this thread again from beginning and read something that has me worried. I read to not use aloe that has potassium sorbate because that is bad for MJ. My aloe has this. Same brand mentioned in post I read. (somewhere on first few pages) Is it flat out bad to use on MJ? Or just not as good as aloe without potassium sorbate? If it`s all bad I will switch to a brand without the potassium sorbate, or just get fresh aloe plants. They were already looking pretty damn healthy before I used this stuff...will they still be ok, or will it give me problems?

Does anyone know why the sorbate is bad?

 

[VTMi'kmaq]

Some products I use:

I have switch to powered coconut since and powdered aloe 200x





Growth is insane when you foliar with aloe!!!

I grow a couple different species of aloe, I'd suggest Japanese aloes to foliar feed with. They are hearty and will reward you back!

 

[VTMi'kmaq]

i attempted to show you some pictures but for some odd reason I CANNOT upload or see anyone's thumbnails weird shit mang!

 

[jcmjrt]

Does anyone know why the sorbate is bad?

Potassium sorbate is used as a preservative - particularly against mold and yeast. It can be an irritant to eyes and the respiratory system. I can't answer how bad it is in the concentration in your aloe, and one application (which you will probably end up washing off with other foliar sprays as time progresses) probably is nothing to worry about since it is generally considered safe for consumption (but that's ingestion in food and I don't know of studies on smoking)...but I wouldn't want to continue its usage because of how it might affect me when I smoke the buds vice how it might affect the plants for growth. I have no experience on how it affects plant growth.

 

[Nizza]

yeah for some reason i'm having picture issues today , lots aren't showing up idk, some do... Favorited that horsetail tea piece and love all this great info on here....
I want to work on a list of things with links of where i'm going to get them from, and see what everyones input is on these things, and what I may be missing/not needed. I will hopefully be on a strict budget (i love paying a lil extra for a kick) and I've been working on my compost pile outside where I dump all my old Coco + perlite..
question, i know coco turns from an inert-like substance to an organic that can be broken down...
how would this coco be effecting my compost pile?? (compost pile is years of old grass clippings, really really long time ago dog poo in the clippings, leaves, old garden plants, alot of vegetables, some fruit, very little meats/bones, and a shit ton of oyster shell for a pH buffer which need to be smashed up when i'm ready.. i think)
I also plan on saving up egg shells for the compost and stuff and I'd like to grow some aloe in my windows this winter... any advice on indoor aloe?

holy crud looks like RUI finally added in security things to stop the spammers!!!!!!!!!

also have access to lots of black gold (leaf/horsepoo compost)

freakin love this thread people, keep it up!!

 

[st0wandgrow]

Hey guys I have some questions about aloe gel. I just got some Lily of the desert aloe vera gel. I sprayed leaves and soil drenched @ 2tbsp per gallon water.

Just went back through and was reading this thread again from beginning and read something that has me worried. I read to not use aloe that has potassium sorbate because that is bad for MJ. My aloe has this. Same brand mentioned in post I read. (somewhere on first few pages) Is it flat out bad to use on MJ? Or just not as good as aloe without potassium sorbate? If it`s all bad I will switch to a brand without the potassium sorbate, or just get fresh aloe plants. They were already looking pretty damn healthy before I used this stuff...will they still be ok, or will it give me problems?

Does anyone know why the sorbate is bad?

This was being discussed on another forum. In short, when potassium sorbate is added to water it breaks down in to sorbic acid which is anti-microbial. IOW, bad for the beneficial microbes in our soil that we rely on to work for our plants. Be leery of most chemical preservatives, as their primary function is to inhibit the growth of bacteria, fungi, etc (the things we want to flourish, not repress).

 

[boblawblah421]

yeah for some reason i'm having picture issues today , lots aren't showing up idk, some do... Favorited that horsetail tea piece and love all this great info on here....
I want to work on a list of things with links of where i'm going to get them from, and see what everyones input is on these things, and what I may be missing/not needed. I will hopefully be on a strict budget (i love paying a lil extra for a kick) and I've been working on my compost pile outside where I dump all my old Coco + perlite..
question, i know coco turns from an inert-like substance to an organic that can be broken down...
how would this coco be effecting my compost pile?? (compost pile is years of old grass clippings, really really long time ago dog poo in the clippings, leaves, old garden plants, alot of vegetables, some fruit, very little meats/bones, and a shit ton of oyster shell for a pH buffer which need to be smashed up when i'm ready.. i think)
I also plan on saving up egg shells for the compost and stuff and I'd like to grow some aloe in my windows this winter... any advice on indoor aloe?

holy crud looks like RUI finally added in security things to stop the spammers!!!!!!!!!

also have access to lots of black gold (leaf/horsepoo compost)

freakin love this thread people, keep it up!!

I have a decent amount of coco in my compost pile. So far I see no ill effects.

If you plan on using much of your aloe plant, I would recommend supplementing a little light. I have had a small aloe plant sitting in a southern facing window that hasn't really grown in over a year. My beast of an aloe plant is about to get split up into a few smart pots and brought inside under some quantum T5's for the winter. That'll keep them booming.

 

[alien mushroomhead]

This was being discussed on another forum. In short, when potassium sorbate is added to water it breaks down in to sorbic acid which is anti-microbial. IOW, bad for the beneficial microbes in our soil that we rely on to work for our plants. Be leery of most chemical preservatives, as their primary function is to inhibit the growth of bacteria, fungi, etc (the things we want to flourish, not repress).[/QUOT

This aloe gel was purchased from a health food store. It says 99% organic on the label. Also has a few "certified organic" badges. It says the potassium sorbate is a mold inhibitor. I didnt just foliar spray, I also drenched the soil pretty good. So now I`m freaking out worried about my micro life.

I don`t know if this is good, bad, or indifferent... but when I look into the bottle there is a thick bubbly foam on top. Kinda looks like the good foam that you see on top in a tea brewing for plants. Does not have a chemical smell, and does not smell like hand lotion. Just smells really clean and pure.

 

[st0wandgrow]

I wouldn't sweat it. Maybe just run some water through your soil for a couple feedings, then apply an ACT or top dress with some EWC. I'm sure you'll be fine.

 

[Mohican]

I am sure it is at a low enough level that it won't kill your beneficial microbes.