Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[Midwest Weedist]

Can we block people on here?

 

[Joedank]

"Feedback regulation of thiamine biosynthesis via riboswitch has been unraveled.
Selenium is also a important trace element that not many are aware of"
rudolf stiner did a talk on selnium and yarrow in 1926 or so ... MANY ARE aware of selniums role as well as BORON and silica. so we make ammended comopost heaps... look up Hugh courtny quantum ag if you want a schooling on how to grow better ...
hand full of Yarrow leaves does this as well as add selnium ... your proving you dont know very much about composting with this post .... bacon grease MELTS in my compost and is GONE in a few days ... SHIT WHOLE CHICKENS only take a week..BUT due to Bact concerns i DONT reccomend this .asaerobic digesters are made for this.. then it goes to the worms for the final step. once worm get it done i call that true hummis...
from a biodynamic site:
Yarrow (502) Yarrow flowers placed in the stags bladder, hung in the sun during the summer and buried in rich soil during the next winter- this preparation stimulates the potassium, silica and selenium activating bacteria and helps combine sulphur with other substances. This preparation remedies weaknesses in flowering and fruiting and strengthens the plant against insect attack. It aids the soil in connecting to the planetary rhythms.

Awe fuck it i school you now there pathetic ,, owe i mean Pattahab lol or how ever you say it haha
Fats feed fungi...only fungi build true humus, true humus is like 40% fat, digested over and over.
Bacon contains thiamin, vitamin B zinc and selenium, which play a crucial role in plants
Thiamine diphosphate (vitamin B(1)) plays a fundamental role as an enzymatic cofactor in universal metabolic pathways including glycolysis, the pentose phosphate pathway, and the tricarboxylic acid cycle. In addition, thiamine diphosphate has recently been shown to have functions other than as a cofactor in response to abiotic and biotic stress in plants. Recently, several steps of the plant thiamine biosynthetic pathway have been characterized, and a mechanism of feedback regulation of thiamine biosynthesis via riboswitch has been unraveled.
Selenium is also a important trace element that not many are aware of
So don't kid your self

http://antranik.org/the-catabolism-o...ns-for-energy/

Plants and humans are function pretty dam close so lets read on

The next favorite foods to make energy after sugars, are fats. Fats are stored in our fat cells as triglycerides, just like how glucose is stored as glycogen in our liver and muscles. Triglycerides are made of three saturated fatty acids. Remember a fatty acid is just a long chain of carbons with hydrogens attached. Fatty acids are always an even number of carbon atoms long. They can be 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 24 carbons and so on. You’ll never find a FA that’s an odd number of carbons. What happens is that this fatty acid is broken up two carbons at a time which turns it into the two-carbon acetyl sugar. This is called a beta oxidation reaction. Then they are broken down in the krebs cycle as if they were sugars.

We know a fatty acid is not a small molecule such as glucose which is 6 carbon atoms long. It’s more like, say, 24 carbons long so that would form a whopping 12 acetyl sugars and since it was a triglyceride to begin with, there would be three fatty acids. Imagine that! The catabolism of a triglyceride will create 36 acetyl sugars at once and it will flood the system and they can’t go through the krebs cycle fast enough so some of these acetyl sugars become keto acids. These tend to be formed when the body is breaking down fats faster than normal. Each gram of fat provides twice as much energy as carbs or protein. Anytime there’s an increased rate of fat break down, there’s more keto acids (aka ketone bodies). Note that since the fats are turned into acetyl sugars that enter the krebs cycle, that means they HAVE to have oxygen. Sugars are the only foods that can be broken apart without the need for oxygen.

Catabolism of fat –> Formation of ketoacids (“ketone bodies”)

Marathon runners say running the last 6 miles is harder than the first 20. The expression commonly used is said to hit “the wall.” It feels like you can’t move. There’s a number of theories but one of them is that you’ve used up all your sugars and now you’ve switched to fats because you HAVE to use oxygen to generate ATP. At least before with sugars you were at least making some energy.

The Catabolism of Proteins

Proteins are the least favorite food to use as energy but if the body needs to, it will. Proteins are made up of amino acids so when they are digested, we are left with hundreds or thousands of amino acids.

The picture to your right reminds you of what an amino acid looks like. It begins with a carbon atom, attached to one side is an amino group, on the other side is an acid group (COOH), third a hydrogen. Where they differ is what’s attached in place of “R.”

In order to use amino acids as energy, you need to convert them to sugars. Sugars are made of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. Fats are mostly carbon and hydrogens. Amino acids have carbon atoms, hydrogen, oxygen and NITROGEN atoms.

If we are going to turn amino acids into sugars, we have to remove this nitrogen to turn it into sugar. The process of removing that amino group is called deamination (taking away the amino group, NH2). When you remove that NH2, you actually form NH3 (Ammonia). Then in your liver, this ammonia is turned into Urea which is basically a carbon and oxygen with two amino groups. Your liver releases this urea into the blood stream and is the major organic waste carried in our blood stream. When they clinically measure the amount of urea in your blood, that is commonly known as the BUN level. BUN stands for Blood Urea Nitrogen (Urea contains Nitrogen). This blood is then filtered by our kidneys and appears in our urine as the major organic waste of our urine.

So we’ve explained how amino groups are removed so it doesn’t have nitrogen so chemically we are left with carbons, hydrogens and oxygens like a sugar. What is this new amino-acid-minus-the-amine-group called? Now that it doesn’t have the amino group, it’s still an acid and it’s called a keto acid (aka “ketone bodies”). The ketoacid can be reversibly formed into acetyl sugar.

Interesting plants make ATP ????
but do plants make KETO acids ????

The accurate estimation of the a-keto acids present
in plant tissues is imnportant because these acids
occupy a central position in the metabolism of the
plant and thus may be vital to our understanding
of the physiological conditions which govern the
storage of many fruits and vegetables.

 

[AllDayToker]

Alright so panty hoses are alright but a paint strainer is what I should get sounds good.

What's everyones ratio for a basic microbe tea? I do around 1/2 cup of castings and 1/2 tblsp of molasses per gallon. I typically add a little more molasses after the first 24 houra of bubbling.

 

[keepitcoastal]

Trying new alternatives for pest prevention by trying to make my own soil drenched like so many other on here have. But nothing is knocking out the gnats like some where suggesting.
Iv been working with various recipes and mixtures using
Rosemary powder, clove powder, chamomile powder, kelp powder, ground nettles,and horsetail powder. anything else I need?

Anybody got any recipes that actually work with these ingredients. I think the problem is I haven't been making strong enough batches I need it to go into a 200 gallon res to be watered in. The plants haven't seemed to mind one bit but neither have the gnats. I'm trying to cut out mosquito dunks and powdered bti if possible.

 

[Midwest Weedist]

Trying new alternatives for pest prevention by trying to make my own soil drenched like so many other on here have. But nothing is knocking out the gnats like some where suggesting.
Iv been working with various recipes and mixtures using
Rosemary powder, clove powder, chamomile powder, kelp powder, ground nettles,and horsetail powder. anything else I need?

Anybody got any recipes that actually work with these ingredients. I think the problem is I haven't been making strong enough batches I need it to go into a 200 gallon res to be watered in. The plants haven't seemed to mind one bit but neither have the gnats. I'm trying to cut out mosquito dunks and powdered bti if possible.

Have you looked into fermented plant pesticides? I know you can use garlic (even without fermenting).

 

[Midwest Weedist]

I hope the moderators won't treat this as heresy or anything lol but Gage green group started up a forum and so far it's nothing but top notch organics. Thought it might be worth a look for those here.

 

[AllDayToker]

I hope the moderators won't treat this as heresy or anything lol but Gage green group started up a forum and so far it's nothing but top notch organics. Thought it might be worth a look for those here.

Got a link?

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Trying new alternatives for pest prevention by trying to make my own soil drenched like so many other on here have. But nothing is knocking out the gnats like some where suggesting.
Iv been working with various recipes and mixtures using
Rosemary powder, clove powder, chamomile powder, kelp powder, ground nettles,and horsetail powder. anything else I need?

Anybody got any recipes that actually work with these ingredients. I think the problem is I haven't been making strong enough batches I need it to go into a 200 gallon res to be watered in. The plants haven't seemed to mind one bit but neither have the gnats. I'm trying to cut out mosquito dunks and powdered bti if possible.

Two inch perlite top dress if they bother you that bad

Pure peppermint and rosemary oil works too...

Good luck

 

[hyroot]

natural mistik from dragon fly earth medicine is the only foliar you need. It covers everything. Keeps pests away, green lush plants, leaf shine without the oily texture. Works awesome. You'll be blow away. I just add aloe to it.

also silica (AgSil or pro tekt) and aloe will get rid of any pests and keep them away.


dont bothor with dragonfly earth medicines other products. They're ehh... The natural mistik is the only one I like. It kicks ass. Truly natural organic too.

 

[AllDayToker]

I got the one gallon paint strainer figuring I would just tie off the top. Now I see the five gallons ones would fit over my bucket.

Think I should go back and get the 5 gallon or will the 1 gallon paint strainer be ok?

 

[Midwest Weedist]

natural mistik from dragon fly earth medicine is the only foliar you need. It covers everything. Keeps pests away, green lush plants, leaf shine without the oily texture. Works awesome. You'll be blow away. I just add aloe to it.

also silica (AgSil or pro tekt) and aloe will get rid of any pests and keep them away.


dont bothor with dragonfly earth medicines other products. They're ehh... The natural mistik is the only one I like. It kicks ass. Truly natural organic too.

What all is in it? The mistik I mean

 

[Midwest Weedist]

Got a link?

http://gagegreen.org/boards/

 

[hyroot]

What all is in it? The mistik I mean

 

[Midwest Weedist]

View attachment 3417031

Wow!! Nows that's something I'd buy

 

[Pattahabi]

Awe fuck it i school you now there pathetic ,, owe i mean Pattahab lol or how ever you say it haha
Fats feed fungi...only fungi build true humus, true humus is like 40% fat, digested over and over.
Bacon contains thiamin, vitamin B zinc and selenium, which play a crucial role in plants
Thiamine diphosphate (vitamin B(1)) plays a fundamental role as an enzymatic cofactor in universal metabolic pathways including glycolysis, the pentose phosphate pathway, and the tricarboxylic acid cycle. In addition, thiamine diphosphate has recently been shown to have functions other than as a cofactor in response to abiotic and biotic stress in plants. Recently, several steps of the plant thiamine biosynthetic pathway have been characterized, and a mechanism of feedback regulation of thiamine biosynthesis via riboswitch has been unraveled.
Selenium is also a important trace element that not many are aware of
So don't kid your self

http://antranik.org/the-catabolism-o...ns-for-energy/

Plants and humans are function pretty dam close so lets read on

The next favorite foods to make energy after sugars, are fats. Fats are stored in our fat cells as triglycerides, just like how glucose is stored as glycogen in our liver and muscles. Triglycerides are made of three saturated fatty acids. Remember a fatty acid is just a long chain of carbons with hydrogens attached. Fatty acids are always an even number of carbon atoms long. They can be 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 24 carbons and so on. You’ll never find a FA that’s an odd number of carbons. What happens is that this fatty acid is broken up two carbons at a time which turns it into the two-carbon acetyl sugar. This is called a beta oxidation reaction. Then they are broken down in the krebs cycle as if they were sugars.

We know a fatty acid is not a small molecule such as glucose which is 6 carbon atoms long. It’s more like, say, 24 carbons long so that would form a whopping 12 acetyl sugars and since it was a triglyceride to begin with, there would be three fatty acids. Imagine that! The catabolism of a triglyceride will create 36 acetyl sugars at once and it will flood the system and they can’t go through the krebs cycle fast enough so some of these acetyl sugars become keto acids. These tend to be formed when the body is breaking down fats faster than normal. Each gram of fat provides twice as much energy as carbs or protein. Anytime there’s an increased rate of fat break down, there’s more keto acids (aka ketone bodies). Note that since the fats are turned into acetyl sugars that enter the krebs cycle, that means they HAVE to have oxygen. Sugars are the only foods that can be broken apart without the need for oxygen.

Catabolism of fat –> Formation of ketoacids (“ketone bodies”)

Marathon runners say running the last 6 miles is harder than the first 20. The expression commonly used is said to hit “the wall.” It feels like you can’t move. There’s a number of theories but one of them is that you’ve used up all your sugars and now you’ve switched to fats because you HAVE to use oxygen to generate ATP. At least before with sugars you were at least making some energy.

The Catabolism of Proteins

Proteins are the least favorite food to use as energy but if the body needs to, it will. Proteins are made up of amino acids so when they are digested, we are left with hundreds or thousands of amino acids.

The picture to your right reminds you of what an amino acid looks like. It begins with a carbon atom, attached to one side is an amino group, on the other side is an acid group (COOH), third a hydrogen. Where they differ is what’s attached in place of “R.”

In order to use amino acids as energy, you need to convert them to sugars. Sugars are made of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. Fats are mostly carbon and hydrogens. Amino acids have carbon atoms, hydrogen, oxygen and NITROGEN atoms.

If we are going to turn amino acids into sugars, we have to remove this nitrogen to turn it into sugar. The process of removing that amino group is called deamination (taking away the amino group, NH2). When you remove that NH2, you actually form NH3 (Ammonia). Then in your liver, this ammonia is turned into Urea which is basically a carbon and oxygen with two amino groups. Your liver releases this urea into the blood stream and is the major organic waste carried in our blood stream. When they clinically measure the amount of urea in your blood, that is commonly known as the BUN level. BUN stands for Blood Urea Nitrogen (Urea contains Nitrogen). This blood is then filtered by our kidneys and appears in our urine as the major organic waste of our urine.

So we’ve explained how amino groups are removed so it doesn’t have nitrogen so chemically we are left with carbons, hydrogens and oxygens like a sugar. What is this new amino-acid-minus-the-amine-group called? Now that it doesn’t have the amino group, it’s still an acid and it’s called a keto acid (aka “ketone bodies”). The ketoacid can be reversibly formed into acetyl sugar.

Interesting plants make ATP ????
but do plants make KETO acids ????

The accurate estimation of the a-keto acids present
in plant tissues is imnportant because these acids
occupy a central position in the metabolism of the
plant and thus may be vital to our understanding
of the physiological conditions which govern the
storage of many fruits and vegetables.

You sir are a complete and utter moron. You obviously don't have any outdoor compost piles or you would know better.

P-

 

[AllDayToker]

So will a tied off 1 gallon paint strainer be ok in my 5 gallon bucket? I saw that they had 5 gallon paint strainers but figured it was more then I needed for a couple cups of castings. I then later find out they just pull over the sides of the bucket.

Idk if I should not open the 1 gallon ones and return them for 5 gallon ones, or if the 1 gallons will be fine?

 

[Midwest Weedist]

So will a tied off 1 gallon paint strainer be ok in my 5 gallon bucket? I saw that they had 5 gallon paint strainers but figured it was more then I needed for a couple cups of castings. I then later find out they just pull over the sides of the bucket.

Idk if I should not open the 1 gallon ones and return them for 5 gallon ones, or if the 1 gallons will be fine?

In my mind I only see the paint strainers being an issue if say they're not deep enough once in your bucket. My precautionary side says take them back and exchange them for no cost but the gas to get there.

 

[AllDayToker]

In my mind I only see the paint strainers being an issue if say they're not deep enough once in your bucket. My precautionary side says take them back and exchange them for no cost but the gas to get there.

Well my idea in the first place was to tie off one of these strainers like you would have to with nylons, so it'd be in there like A teabag, hanging were I'd need it.

I have never bought paint strainers and didn't realized they go over the top to hold.

So pretty much either or would work as long as it's deep enough in there. Both would perform the same correct?

 

[Midwest Weedist]

I can't come up with a reason that they wouldn't work

Well my idea in the first place was to tie off one of these strainers like you would have to with nylons, so it'd be in there like A teabag, hanging were I'd need it.

I have never bought paint strainers and didn't realized they go over the top to hold.

So pretty much either or would work as long as it's deep enough in there. Both would perform the same correct?

 

[AllDayToker]

I can't come up with a reason that they wouldn't work

Alright cool thanks for the help mane! I just always like to have others thoughts before I go through with stuff. I always feel like I will miss something, I tend to do that a lot haha.