Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

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widgetkicker

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I've bought Gnatrol by the pound from ebay before. It came repackaged in a generic container with not much of a label. A pound will last me at least six months, so I don't really want much more than that if I want to keep it fresh. When I went to look for some today I couldn't find anyone on the internet selling it in anything smaller than a 16-pound bucket for about $400.

Does anybody know what happened? Did the Department of Ag or someone crack down for selling pesticides without a label? Did the manufacturer tell these guys to cut it out because they are about to introduce their own smaller packages?
 
hillbill

hillbill

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widgetkicker said:
I've bought Gnatrol by the pound from ebay before. It came repackaged in a generic container with not much of a label. A pound will last me at least six months, so I don't really want much more than that if I want to keep it fresh. When I went to look for some today I couldn't find anyone on the internet selling it in anything smaller than a 16-pound bucket for about $400.

Does anybody know what happened? Did the Department of Ag or someone crack down for selling pesticides without a label? Did the manufacturer tell these guys to cut it out because they are about to introduce their own smaller packages?
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Saw that! Got mine on eBay and there were several listings, Gone!
 
The_Physicist

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Hey guys, I'm just about to start my 2nd grow ever and I would like some advice and criticism this time around. The plant is about 3 weeks old, planted from seed. This notill pot is around 3 years old of only water and cover crop and is performing better than expected, my only concern are pests because right now my ipm is nonexistent. My only problem so far was mosquitoes, and was corrected when I found the source of stagnant water, but I need some preventative care so a more serious issue never arises
 

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splitopenmelt

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Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. It’s been my playbook over the last year as I’ve prepared myself for the opportunity to grow my limit notill under the summer sun.

I underestimated how much of a feat mixing six yards of soil from scratch would be. My back is glad that part is over lol here’s my mix...

1/3 peat moss
1/3 Vermont Compost
1/3 Aeration mix (growstones GS-2, perlite and rice hulls)

Rock dusts:
2 parts glacial
2 parts basalt
1 part oyster shell flour
1 part gypsum
.5 part azomite

Amendments: 1/2 cup per cu. ft.
Kelp Meal
Crustacean Meal
Neem/Karanja mix

Yesterday I potted all this, sowed some clover and watered each pot with about 10gal. of well water with some mosquito dunks and em-1 added. I plan to chop and drop the clover and plant into them first week of June. This is my first time trying this so I’m going to stay tuned to the thread, try and keep it simple and hope for the best..any advice or feedback would be greatly
 
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ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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splitopenmelt said:
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. It’s been my playbook over the last year as I’ve prepared myself for the opportunity to grow my limit notill under the summer sun.

I underestimated how much of a feat mixing six yards of soil from scratch would be. My back is glad that part is over lol here’s my mix...

1/3 peat moss
1/3 Vermont Compost
1/3 Aeration mix (growstones GS-2, perlite and rice hulls)

Rock dusts:
2 parts glacial
2 parts basalt
1 part oyster shell flour
1 part gypsum
.5 part azomite

Amendments: 1/2 cup per cu. ft.
Kelp Meal
Crustacean Meal
Neem/Karanja mix

Yesterday I potted all this, sowed some clover and watered each pot with about 10gal. of well water with some mosquito dunks and em-1 added. I plan to chop and drop the clover and plant into them first week of June. This is my first time trying this so I’m going to stay tuned to the thread, try and keep it simple and hope for the best..any advice or feedback would be greatly appreciated :bigjoint:
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plan on getting something to boost your K for flower. any organic "bloom" fert will do fine. will you make it without it... sure... but will your yields be much better with it... DEFINITELY. Good luck! wish i had a space like that for outdoor :)
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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The_Physicist said:
Hey guys, I'm just about to start my 2nd grow ever and I would like some advice and criticism this time around. The plant is about 3 weeks old, planted from seed. This notill pot is around 3 years old of only water and cover crop and is performing better than expected, my only concern are pests because right now my ipm is nonexistent. My only problem so far was mosquitoes, and was corrected when I found the source of stagnant water, but I need some preventative care so a more serious issue never arises
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sorry, I know this is from a couple weeks ago at this point but I never saw this post :) I would find something you can use as a drip tray for those pots, and then fill it with pumice or perlite (whatever solid aeration you use, hell hydroton would work too) and then set your no till pot on top of that. that will allow air to get under the pots and any water that happens to drain away will adhere to the drainage material and dry away quickly.
 
Og grumble

Og grumble

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I've been lurking around here for a while now. Im on page 155 so i still have a while to go but i have learned so much already. I would like to thank all of you who have contributed and shared all of the priceless knowledge in this thread. There are too many of you to name. Well, I am proud to say i have never used a bottled nute/chemical. I bought a couple while i was gathering supplies for my first grow, still deciding how i would go about it, but thankfully never used them. I found this thread right before i started my first grow and instantly decided organics is the way for me. Well for all really, we just have to get the rest of them here with us. Anyway I'll quit rambling. I just wanted to introduce myself and say thanks to everyone who has helped me and countless others im sure.
So heres my first grow. cookies and critical grown in los which will eventually become no till when i have more space.
 

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Greenthumbs256

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Og grumble said:
I've been lurking around here for a while now. Im on page 155 so i still have a while to go but i have learned so much already. I would like to thank all of you who have contributed and shared all of the priceless knowledge in this thread. There are too many of you to name. Well, I am proud to say i have never used a bottled nute/chemical. I bought a couple while i was gathering supplies for my first grow, still deciding how i would go about it, but thankfully never used them. I found this thread right before i started my first grow and instantly decided organics is the way for me. Well for all really, we just have to get the rest of them here with us. Anyway I'll quit rambling. I just wanted to introduce myself and say thanks to everyone who has helped me and countless others im sure.
So heres my first grow. cookies and critical grown in los which will eventually become no till when i have more space.
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Yet another has been converted to the dark side! Welcome young jedi! "The Best growing I hope you do!"
 
Og grumble

Og grumble

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Greenthumbs256 said:
Yet another has been converted to the dark side! Welcome young jedi! "The Best growing I hope you do!"
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Thank you and you as well. I still have over half of this thread to read. I have read teaming with microbes and im about to read true living organics. Trying to get my boss to read them as well( i work in a dispensary/grow facility) as we grow almost completely organically, but not the way i personally like to. Im getting them to come around to the no-till living soil idea. Now if i can just get them off clonex I'll be stoked. But thats not my grow and the boss doesnt really listen lol. Ill keep trying to make them see the light. Now i gotta get back to reading i got catching up to do!
 
Greenthumbs256

Greenthumbs256

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Og grumble said:
Thank you and you as well. I still have over half of this thread to read. I have read teaming with microbes and im about to read true living organics. Trying to get my boss to read them as well( i work in a dispensary/grow facility) as we grow almost completely organically, but not the way i personally like to. Im getting them to come around to the no-till living soil idea. Now if i can just get them off clonex I'll be stoked. But thats not my grow and the boss doesnt really listen lol. Ill keep trying to make them see the light. Now i gotta get back to reading i got catching up to do!
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To be honest I still use clonex some will argue yes it still chemicals which makes the entire plant no longer organic but I seriously doubt it matter it's just some rooting hormones and makes my life easier! So I'm 100% organic except for clonex lol
 
Og grumble

Og grumble

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Greenthumbs256 said:
To be honest I still use clonex some will argue yes it still chemicals which makes the entire plant no longer organic but I seriously doubt it matter it's just some rooting hormones and makes my life easier! So I'm 100% organic except for clonex lol
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Well for me at least, one of the main things is being sustainable and being far away from bottles and hydro stores. Aloe works well for cloning and is far cheaper(if you grow it) and far more sustainable than clonex. Just my 2 cents. Im using it at work because i have to but i wont use it in my garden. To each his own you know. Happy growing.
 
Strudelheim

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Keep on seeing people post recipes and questions using total amount of amendments with total amount of cubic feet. So 6 Cubic feet and then the total ammendments. If everyone only posted on a per cubic foot basis, it would be so much easier for everyone to compare. Then you simply multiply by how many cubic feet mix you want to make. So everyone break it down to per cubic foot ammendments, post that.

Heres my mix.

PER CUBIC FOOT (8 LOOSE FILLED GALLONS)

[] 1 Cup Bonemeal
[]1/2 Cup Dehydrated Molasses
[]1/2 Cup Kelp
[]1/2 Cup Alfalfa
[]1/2 Cup Blood meal
[]1/2 Cup Glacial Rock Dust
[]1/3 Cup Oyster Shell
[]1/3 Cup Dolomite Lime
[]1/3 Cup Gypsum
[]1/4 Cup Azomite
[]1/4 Cup Basalt

40% Peat
40% Perlite
20% EWC
 
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