Regrets to inform you, your COUNRTY is dead... because they were stupid.

londonfog

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sad to think that you thought we were arguing... you were pointing out useless opinions while I was showing you facts...
 

thedoc08

New Member
I've yet to have an intelligent conversation with a liberal. I've come to the conclusion that if you don't agree with them, then you're wrong. Same reason I don't argue with women. Have a good one chief.
 

londonfog

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I've yet to have an intelligent conversation with a liberal. I've come to the conclusion that if you don't agree with them, then you're wrong. Same reason I don't argue with women. Have a good one chief.
Must be you then...I have plenty of intelligent conversations with conservatives. Its people who make stupid statements like Obama is Muslim that shows me that some people are just stuck on stupid or those who think that if you have no military experience you will make a poor leader again just plain dumb....Maybe you should seek some help about your problem with woman and having to view everything as an argument with people in whom you disagree ....Sometimes having the facts help...and stop letting emotions control your life....Facts and time proves everything wrong or right...and really stop listening to Beck so much ...go outside for a walk...go to the library...meet a friend for lunch
 

Viagro

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Level the playing field? I'd like to see you go hand to paw/bite to bite combat with a wolf.............:)

On topic I very much dislike Palin and hope to god she does not run or loses in the primaries. That women does not have the knowledge needed to fend off just about any democrat in a debate. Religious Republicans need to die off, I hate them and they should be replaced with libertarians. Someone with the intellect of Newt and libertarian leanings of Ron paul would do well.
Newt is a pseudo-intellectual moron.

Our Country is dead.
 

thedoc08

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Must be you then...I have plenty of intelligent conversations with conservatives. Its people who make stupid statements like Obama is Muslim that shows me that some people are just stuck on stupid or those who think that if you have no military experience you will make a poor leader again just plain dumb....Maybe you should seek some help about your problem with woman and having to view everything as an argument with people in whom you disagree ....Sometimes having the facts help...and stop letting emotions control your life....Facts and time proves everything wrong or right...and really stop listening to Beck so much ...go outside for a walk...go to the library...meet a friend for lunch
Calling him a Muslim was obviously a joke (that went over your head) in reference to your post which I quoted twice and you used various logical fallacies to argue against each time. The second half of your current post is nothing but fallacious argument ad hominem and won't be acknowledged.

If you would prefer word substitution, this is why I don't have political discussions with liberals anymore.
 

andar

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I've yet to have an intelligent conversation with a liberal. I've come to the conclusion that if you don't agree with them, then you're wrong. Same reason I don't argue with women. Have a good one chief.
you arent being intelligent right now. george bush had no military experience he was a little pussy. George Bush is the reason that our country is fucked up. You are blaming Obama for everything, he is actually doing very well with the cards he was dealt. Bush got us stuck in unwinnable wars and fucked up our economy. Im not saying Obama is the best president but you talk about him like he just destroyed our country. It was already destroyed by Bush. I have had intelligent conversations with conservatives and you are not one of them.

as for your "intelligent" answers, being in the military isnt a requirement to be president and I would rather my president not be in the military at all then be in the military and be a complete disgrace to it like bush.

he also had prior political experience he was a senator. he has a law degree from harvard and taught school. He knows how the office of the presidency works.

Im not saying that hes the best president weve ever had Im just saying that considering the fucked up situation he inherited hes really not doing as bad as people like you say he is.
 

thedoc08

New Member
Bush blaming is old news and people are sick of it, that's why FOX is by far the most popular news channel now. If he wasn't doing as bad as we say he's doing then this years election would have had a much different result. I can assure you that when we have a Republican in office next election and if after two years he exacerbates the problem, I won't be blaming it on what he inherited from br0bama.

I obviously can't speak for all Republicans, but I would rather find solutions to problems than place the blame for them on someone else.


Next....
 

andar

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he is finding solutions but you cant fix all the problems in 2 years. no republican could have done it either

Next.... you fag I wasnt trying to avoid obamas responsibility to fix our problems, he definately needs to which he is on his way it just takes time. I was reminding you that it was your parties leadership that caused the problems and your saying to go back to those policies to fix the problems. that is retarded.
before you brush off serious questions with asinine answers and think that you somehow have gained an intellectual victory I would also remind you that just because fox news is popular doesnt mean its right. It just means that there are a lot of stupid people in our country like you who have no clue what they are talking about but think that they know everything.

bush blaming is old news? what kind of cop out is that. its the truth.
you wouldnt be sick of it if we didnt have to remind you over and over and over why we have the problems that you are bitching about. if you werent so retarded we wouldnt have to repeat that for you.
just keep denying it, that will make it go away..... sad
 

thedoc08

New Member
Mildly unnecessary, we don't have to resort to name-calling when talking to people we disagree with, that's childish, wouldn't you agree?

I wasnt trying to avoid obamas responsibility to fix our problems, he definately needs to which he is on his way it just takes time.
Calling what he is doing "fixing our problems," is like saying the best way to get to Missouri from Kansas is to head west and go all the way around the world.

I would also remind you that just because fox news is popular doesnt mean its right.
Correct, that would argumentum ad populum.

It just means that there are a lot of stupid people in our country like you who have no clue what they are talking about but think that they know everything.
Incorrect, that would be argumentum ad urretarded

bush blaming is old news? what kind of cop out is that. its the truth.
Bush blaming is a cop out, man up.

you wouldnt be sick of it if we didnt have to remind you over and over and over why we have the problems that you are bitching about. if you werent so retarded we wouldnt have to repeat that for you.
If you really want to go back to the root of the problem and deregulation and the fair housing acts that led to the collapse, you would want to look at Clinton.



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andar

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And you would want to look and see that bush had 8 years to do something about it and didnt do shit but get us into more trouble.
bush blaming is not a cop out when people like you keep saying that obama caused all the problems your mad about. say what you will about how hes trying to fix them, but he did not cause them.
i cant believe you did the next.. thing again you are the child you fag
 

thedoc08

New Member
You're entire post is discredited when you state that "people like me" say br0bama caused all the problems.
 

tardis

Well-Known Member
Can we just all agree that we need to completely do away with the illusion provided by Republicans and Democrats and get 2 new parties to go up which arn't backed by the same kinds of people on both sides?
 

thedoc08

New Member
Can we just all agree that we need to completely do away with the illusion provided by Republicans and Democrats and get 2 new parties to go up which arn't backed by the same kinds of people on both sides?
I believe both parties have distinct agendas, and not in the conspiracy theory that a small group of the same people pull the strings of both.

The problem with the two party system is that when you disagree with any belief of your party you lose support from voters of that party without gaining proportional support from the other party. I'm all for getting rid of the two party system and having candidates elected based on their merits and beliefs, not being locked into having to share all the same ideologies of their party without losing support.
 

NoDrama

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you arent being intelligent right now. george bush had no military experience he was a little pussy. George Bush is the reason that our country is fucked up. You are blaming Obama for everything, he is actually doing very well with the cards he was dealt.

Just to set the record straight, GW Bush does indeed have military experience. He was a fighter pilot in the Air National Guard. Not that I'm defending him or anything, but he WAS in the military.
 

doc111

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And you would want to look and see that bush had 8 years to do something about it and didnt do shit but get us into more trouble.
bush blaming is not a cop out when people like you keep saying that obama caused all the problems your mad about. say what you will about how hes trying to fix them, but he did not cause them.
i cant believe you did the next.. thing again you are the child you fag
Your credibility is shot! You called 2 people a fag? Wow! Calling names is completely and utterly uncalled for and completely discredits your cause. Just because you can't come up with an intelligent response doesn't mean you should lash out at your opponent. I never saw anything remotely insulting in doc08's posts yet you are calling him a fag? That's pretty much what all democrats are desperately clinging to now anyways. "Bush got us into this mess!". I would expect a kicking and screaming tantrum next! I guess you're gonna call me a fag now too, huh?:-P
 

londonfog

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Thats the problem with most Americans...They are too forgetful...Never forget where you came from and how you got to were you are now...You people want us to forget how our nation got in this place we are in now and it is from BUSH... You can try to forget , but some of us will not..Obama is only playing the hand dealt to him... its only been about two years and you people want us to forget how phucked we were two years ago, but thats the way you people work...OBAMA 2012
 
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