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Duago29

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No we don't u arent providing information but ur acting like u are.

Im getting pissed off because you aren't being helpful and answering my question you're telling me to go and figure it out. Thats what I'm trying to do, by going on the internet and asking other experienced growers. I expect to actually get help not have u just say who knows what works until u do it? Adding "x" ingredient to your soil base increases nitrogen and potassium, adding "y" ingredient increases phosphorus and aerated soil. THOSE kinds of things are helpful. Telling me to go look it up when I'm CURRENTLY ON A WEBSITE ASKING is honestly stupid, if you don't know the answer then fine but don't make a comment and tell me to look it up ornow go do it with whatever I feel like and see what happens. I would rather not waste a grow season adding random shit to my soil, and I would rather not spend hours searching through the bullshit and the good stuff online, and all the myths spread by people when I could simply come to a forum and ask people and get an answer from their experienced knowledge. I dont wanna hear go look it up thats what I'm doing right fukkin now seriously
 
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Why can't u fuck off if ur not gonna help? Or atleast don't try to claim your giving me advice when you've said nothing informative or useful on my thread. If ur not going to then go away
 
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Duago29 said:
Why can't u fuck off if ur not gonna help? Or atleast don't try to claim your giving me advice when you've said nothing informative or useful on my thread. If ur not going to then go away
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Hey buddy, honestly me to me MrRoboto was giving you sound advice. He basically agreed with what you have going on. As in, it sounds like you have it figured out. Dont think he meant any ill will. Less is more, new and old growers alike tend to do too much for the plant, over think things. It is just a weed, I've grown nice plants just putting in soil, and waiting for rain, after it sprouts and I think its ready I'll add nutes and go from there.
As far as the deer poo I would seriously consider composting that first.I could be wrong, but I really think its ideal. As I understand it there's parasites and shit in the shit lol that could be harmful. You do plan on ingesting what your growing. You could probably make a nice compost from some of the rotted wood, topsoil,and coffee grounds. You want to let that sit for awhile and turn it. Typically you would want a thermometer, i let it sit for few days and I'll turn it, if I see heat escaping (steam) I know its gotten hot enough. 150°f is what burns off the bad stuff. I work around a lot of chicken shit and people always tell me I have it great just throw it on there lol no sir that shitis hot as hell and will burn your baby up, it also has to be composted. All in all I think you off to the right start. And I honestly Dont think robot was trying to be rude you just read it wrong or something. You ever seen the movie of mice and men? I think that's the name anyways dude wanted to love something so much that he'd rough it up mishandle it and he'd kill the animals, that's kinda what he was saying lol less is more. Everything we give is a supplement. They need a good environment to thrive. Sometimes we put them in environments that the plant isn't meant for so we have to supplement ie. Nutrients, water, warmth, coolness etc.. Anyways good luck to you, were all here to help.
I'm rambling its too early for all this lol gone to work. Take care.
 
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johnp410 said:
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Hey buddy, honestly me to me MrRoboto was giving you sound advice. He basically agreed with what you have going on. As in, it sounds like you have it figured out. Dont think he meant any ill will. Less is more, new and old growers alike tend to do too much for the plant, over think things. It is just a weed, I've grown nice plants just putting in soil, and waiting for rain, after it sprouts and I think its ready I'll add nutes and go from there.
As far as the deer poo I would seriously consider composting that first.I could be wrong, but I really think its ideal. As I understand it there's parasites and shit in the shit lol that could be harmful. You do plan on ingesting what your growing. You could probably make a nice compost from some of the rotted wood, topsoil,and coffee grounds. You want to let that sit for awhile and turn it. Typically you would want a thermometer, i let it sit for few days and I'll turn it, if I see heat escaping (steam) I know its gotten hot enough. 150°f is what burns off the bad stuff. I work around a lot of chicken shit and people always tell me I have it great just throw it on there lol no sir that shitis hot as hell and will burn your baby up, it also has to be composted. All in all I think you off to the right start. And I honestly Dont think robot was trying to be rude you just read it wrong or something. You ever seen the movie of mice and men? I think that's the name anyways dude wanted to love something so much that he'd rough it up mishandle it and he'd kill the animals, that's kinda what he was saying lol less is more. Everything we give is a supplement. They need a good environment to thrive. Sometimes we put them in environments that the plant isn't meant for so we have to supplement ie. Nutrients, water, warmth, coolness etc.. Anyways good luck to you, were all here to help.
I'm rambling its too early for all this lol gone to work. Take care.
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Well I don't know what to add because this soil I know it isn't very good as it is.

Someone said not to use blood or bone meal outdoors as it will make animals dig up the roots. That is a problem as my area has alot of bears n coons n so I was thinking of using just some pellet fertilizer or the tomato nutrients.
I think u guys are misunderstanding I don't know how this is going to be "too much" or like I'll kill them over managing them. Pretty much nobody I've seen here just digs a hole and puts their seedlings in it with no amendments. I don't know what to add to the natural soil right now, it isn't very good and I need some kind of filler so I'm just asking for like a soil mix recipe I can use for my pots and the hole. Or I asked if I could water with tomato nutrients instead to give them their nutrients. But people are just saying I'm going to do too much I didn't say I'm going to do all these things I'm suggesting there just ideas n I'm asking if anyone's tried them or if they would be a bad idea or whatever u know?

Rught now I have a hole with some shitty soil and its ony half full so I need some filler. Also have a bunch of empty pots so I need a soil mix for those n I want to do it myself so I can put enough stuff in for them. Anybody know of what to mix in? I've been mixing coffee grounds into the big hole for about 2 weeks and there's alot of worms in there compared to before when I first dug it I saw one I think that's a good sign but a couple worms won't make shitty soil into good soil in a few weeks time when I'll be planting outside so as u can see I need to add some stuff right? I'm asking what I need to add
 
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Duago29 said:
Well I don't know what to add because this soil I know it isn't very good as it is.

Someone said not to use blood or bone meal outdoors as it will make animals dig up the roots. That is a problem as my area has alot of bears n coons n so I was thinking of using just some pellet fertilizer or the tomato nutrients.
I think u guys are misunderstanding I don't know how this is going to be "too much" or like I'll kill them over managing them. Pretty much nobody I've seen here just digs a hole and puts their seedlings in it with no amendments. I don't know what to add to the natural soil right now, it isn't very good and I need some kind of filler so I'm just asking for like a soil mix recipe I can use for my pots and the hole. Or I asked if I could water with tomato nutrients instead to give them their nutrients. But people are just saying I'm going to do too much I didn't say I'm going to do all these things I'm suggesting there just ideas n I'm asking if anyone's tried them or if they would be a bad idea or whatever u know?

Rught now I have a hole with some shitty soil and its ony half full so I need some filler. Also have a bunch of empty pots so I need a soil mix for those n I want to do it myself so I can put enough stuff in for them. Anybody know of what to mix in? I've been mixing coffee grounds into the big hole for about 2 weeks and there's alot of worms in there compared to before when I first dug it I saw one I think that's a good sign but a couple worms won't make shitty soil into good soil in a few weeks time when I'll be planting outside so as u can see I need to add some stuff right? I'm asking what I need to add
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Aeration and drainage would be my big concern. Do you have access to perlite? That would help a lot, some bags even have nutes in them already like miracle grow perlite. Worms also help. Can u get compost and peat moss? Lime? I dont know it all when it comes to this because i get promix and add some perlite. Then I use jacks classic. Its powdered water soluble nutrients. U can use that if you want. Alot of people here frown on miracle grow but you gotta do what you gotta do. Tomato plant food is fine. I know you said you live in a small town and people may suspect you when going to the store for stuff. If they have seeds or even tomato plants biy a couple of each. It would help avoid the "I bet he's growing pot look" lol its really none of their business. But also make an effort to grow those plants as well. Definitely start with the perlite.
 
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Duago29 said:
Well I don't know what to add because this soil I know it isn't very good as it is.

Someone said not to use blood or bone meal outdoors as it will make animals dig up the roots. That is a problem as my area has alot of bears n coons n so I was thinking of using just some pellet fertilizer or the tomato nutrients.
I think u guys are misunderstanding I don't know how this is going to be "too much" or like I'll kill them over managing them. Pretty much nobody I've seen here just digs a hole and puts their seedlings in it with no amendments. I don't know what to add to the natural soil right now, it isn't very good and I need some kind of filler so I'm just asking for like a soil mix recipe I can use for my pots and the hole. Or I asked if I could water with tomato nutrients instead to give them their nutrients. But people are just saying I'm going to do too much I didn't say I'm going to do all these things I'm suggesting there just ideas n I'm asking if anyone's tried them or if they would be a bad idea or whatever u know?

Rught now I have a hole with some shitty soil and its ony half full so I need some filler. Also have a bunch of empty pots so I need a soil mix for those n I want to do it myself so I can put enough stuff in for them. Anybody know of what to mix in? I've been mixing coffee grounds into the big hole for about 2 weeks and there's alot of worms in there compared to before when I first dug it I saw one I think that's a good sign but a couple worms won't make shitty soil into good soil in a few weeks time when I'll be planting outside so as u can see I need to add some stuff right? I'm asking what I need to add
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People have mentioned stuff to help you out and its like your either not listening or hearing something completely diff.
Mamma grows awesome pot..she gave you great advice.
Mr Robo (he seems to grow like me..the KISS way) gave you great advice.

Ill just say..Tomato potting mix mixed in with you "bad" soil with a handful or two of Slow release fertilizer (i wont mention a brand but get one that is around 10,10,10). A pinch or 4 of Epsom salt wont hurt either. Mix around and leave for a week or two before planting the seedling.
Dont over love (dont over water).
When it starts to flower add some Potash and another hand full of fertilizer on the surface, water in a little.

Cannibis Is a plant that when put into the ground tends to grow itself. Hence its known as "weed".
 
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johnp410 said:
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Hey buddy, honestly me to me MrRoboto was giving you sound advice. He basically agreed with what you have going on. As in, it sounds like you have it figured out. Dont think he meant any ill will. Less is more, new and old growers alike tend to do too much for the plant, over think things. It is just a weed, I've grown nice plants just putting in soil, and waiting for rain, after it sprouts and I think its ready I'll add nutes and go from there.
As far as the deer poo I would seriously consider composting that first.I could be wrong, but I really think its ideal. As I understand it there's parasites and shit in the shit lol that could be harmful. You do plan on ingesting what your growing. You could probably make a nice compost from some of the rotted wood, topsoil,and coffee grounds. You want to let that sit for awhile and turn it. Typically you would want a thermometer, i let it sit for few days and I'll turn it, if I see heat escaping (steam) I know its gotten hot enough. 150°f is what burns off the bad stuff. I work around a lot of chicken shit and people always tell me I have it great just throw it on there lol no sir that shitis hot as hell and will burn your baby up, it also has to be composted. All in all I think you off to the right start. And I honestly Dont think robot was trying to be rude you just read it wrong or something. You ever seen the movie of mice and men? I think that's the name anyways dude wanted to love something so much that he'd rough it up mishandle it and he'd kill the animals, that's kinda what he was saying lol less is more. Everything we give is a supplement. They need a good environment to thrive. Sometimes we put them in environments that the plant isn't meant for so we have to supplement ie. Nutrients, water, warmth, coolness etc.. Anyways good luck to you, were all here to help.
I'm rambling its too early for all this lol gone to work. Take care.
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Tell me about the rabbits George
 
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ruby fruit said:
Every 17 yr old pimply faced mullet head kills their first outdoor plant with love
Been there done that
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Ya well this isn't my first grow I grew last year and they lived until winter killed them. They didn't harvest bc they were jst put into random dirt and pots they grew insanely slow. So that's why I'm asking for advice to do better this time.
 
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Larry {the} Gardener said:
This works for me. All of my wife's friends {who have no idea about the weed} save me their coffee grounds to go in the garden. I get chicken, turkey and horse manure compost from folks who would never knowingly help an herb grower, but they are happy to help a gardener.

The general public see what you show them.
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Before I started growing inside I grew for decades outside. When I first started I would find these remote locations that were a pain in the ass to get to.......but it provided me the isolation I was looking for. As I got a little older I started growing on my own property . I used the topography of my property to provide cover while growing and I always topped my plants never allowing them to get over 4' as I gained experience and became more bold I would plant patches of flowering plants and used lawn art in my yard to draw the eyes of people passing by away from the areas where my plants were located to places where there were no plants as it was said earlier people see what you want or allow them to see....I've harvested as much as a lb from my side yard that is always mowed and manicured . This method isn't for everyone but it worked well for me for many years.....I've grown plants right in my front yard to maturity and just used other garden plants to hide them. I do live in the country on a paved road that is well traveled .
 
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Iwannagethigh780 said:
Lmao I have moose shit and deer shit all over the damn place . So do you just throw the shit in as is or do u grind it up abit first? I was thinking about taking a few home n giving them to people as large glossets lol
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I toss it in the bottem of hole or pot,try to get it in early look what they eat theres no way it can fk up your plants:bigjoint:
 
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