Roseman's DIY Bubbleponics Tutorial

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Problems

Nutrient Deficiencies - Nutrient deficiencies in modern gardens are really rare. What most people see as a ‘Nutrient Deficiency’ is, 9 times out of 10, a pH problem. A pH that is too high or too low ‘locks out’ your plants ability to uptake nutrients. Since the plant can not uptake those nutrients they appear to be deficient. When in fact, there are plenty of nutrients in the solution/soil but, due to pH Lock-out, they are unavailable to the plant. Adding supplements or more nutrients (which is what most do) will only compound this problem by throwing the pH off even more and further raising the nutrient PPM.

Solution: The best thing to do if you suspect ANY form of nutrient deficiency is to check and adjust the pH as necessary.




Over Feeding- Signs of over feeding include: dead/burnt leaf tips/margins and leaves curling under.

Solution - Check and adjust the pH level as necessary. Flush and decrease the fertilizer/nutrient level. Do the 8 Step Recovery.

Heat Stress - Signs of heat stress can look a lot like nutrient burn, except it occurs only on the top of the plant closest to the lamps. A yellowing of the upper leaves is usually a bleaching from being too close to HID lights.

Solution - A good test to see if your lights are too close is to put your hand between the light and the plant. If your hand gets too hot for comfort, the light is too close and needs to be moved up higher.

Yellowing (Chlorosis) - Chlorosis is a yellowing of leaf tissue due to a lack of chlorophyll. Possible causes of chlorosis include high alkalinity,high pH, and nutrient deficiencies. Nutrient deficiencies may occur because there is an insufficient amount in the nutrient solution or because the nutrients are unavailable due to a high pH. **Note- Always check the pH before increasing nutrient level. In the last few weeks of flowering a yellowing of the leaves is completely normal as the plant uses up all stored nutrients.


Yellowing - Lower/Middle Leaves - Yellowing of the lower leaves/older growth is a sign of a possible Nitrogen (N) deficiency. Nitrogen is a transferable element (this means the plant can move it around as needed). If a plant is not receiving enough Nitrogen from the roots then it will rob Nitrogen from the older growth. Plants that are Nitrogen deficient will exhibit a lack of vigor and grow slowly resulting in a weak and stunted plant that is significantly reduced in quality and yield. In a Hydroponic system, usually the pH is too high and has locked out the available Nitrogen.

Solution - First, check the pH, and adjust if necessary. The correct pH is 5.6 - 6.1 in a hydroponic system. I like 5.9. Second, make sure you are giving the correct amount/type of fertilizer/nutrients. For the vegetative stage of growth, your plants need a nutrient with a high Nitrogen (N) content like 2-1-1 (or 20-10-10).


Yellowing - Upper (New Growth) - Yellowing of the upper (new growth) of the plants could be a sign of a Sulphur (S) deficiency. Sulphur deficiency is pretty rare but usually start off as a yellowing of the entire ‘younger’ leaf including the veins. Other signs of sulfur deficiency are: Elongated roots, woody stems, and Leaf tips curling downward. **Note- Most yellowing of the upper leaves is a bleaching from being too close to the lights.

Solution - Check and adjust the pH level as necessary. Check your nutrient levels and make sure you are giving the correct amount/type for you particular stage of growth. Also a good test to see if your lights are too close is to put your hand between the light and the plant. If your hand gets too hot for comfort, the light is too close and needs to be moved up higher.


Leaf Curling Up - Leaf curling up can be a sign of a Magnesium deficiency caused by too low of a pH level. Magnesium deficiency will show as a yellowing (which may turn brown and crispy) and interveinal (in between the veins) yellowing beginning in the older leaves. Interveinal chlorosis (yellowing) will start at the leaf tip and progressing inward between the veins. It could also be a sign of excess heat and humidity in the grow room.

Solution - Check and adjust the pH level as necessary. When the pH is not at the proper level your plant will lose its ability to absorb some of the essential elements required for healthy growth. If you’re growing in hydro it starts at 5.8 and below. If the pH is correct, then add 1 teaspoon of Epsom salts per each gallon to your water. Or, to foliar feed them, add a ½ teaspoon per quart to a spray bottle. **Note- If your tap water is over 200 ppm Magnesium will be locked out due to the calcium in the water. Magnesium can get locked out by too much Calcium, Chlorine or Ammonium Nitrogen. If this is your problem we suggest using bottled or RO (reverse osmosis) water.


Leaf Curling Down - When the leaves curl under and burn at the tips and margins it’s usually a sign that the nutrient level is too high.

Solution - Check and adjust the pH level as necessary. Flush, do the 8 Step Recovery and decrease the nutrient level.

Droopy Leaves - Leaves that are drooping are most likely caused by under watering or lack of light.

Solution - Check the waer level and add more lights.

Spider Mites - Spider mites are not insects but are more closely related to spiders. These arachnids have four pairs of legs, no antennae and a single, oval body region. Most spider mites have the ability to produce a fine silk webbing. Spider mites are very tiny, being less than 1/50 inch (0.4mm) long when adults. Spider mites have tiny mouthparts modified for piercing individual plant cells and removing the contents. This results in tiny yellow or white speckles. When many of these feeding spots occur near each other, the foliage takes on a yellow or bronzed cast. Once the foliage of a plant becomes bronzed, it often drops prematurely. Heavily infested plants may be discolored, stunted or even killed. Web producing spider mites may coat the foliage with the fine silk which collects dust and looks dirty. Spider mite species seem to be warm weather or cool weather active pests. Adult females usually lay eggs on their host plants. The eggs hatch in days to weeks into the first stage, called a larva. Larvae are round bodied and have only three pairs of legs. The larvae feed for a few days, seek a sheltered spot to rest and then molt into the first nymphal stage. The first nymph now has four pairs of legs. The first nymphs feed a few days, rest and molt into the second nymph. The second nymphs feed, rest and molt into the adult stage. The males are usually the size of the second nymph and have pointed abdomens. The females have rounded abdomens and are the largest mites present. Most spider mites spend the winter in the egg stage but the twospotted spider mite over winters as adult females resting in protected places.

Solution - Early detection of spider mites, before damage is noticed, is VERY important. The tiny spider mites can be detected only by a full and thorough leaf inspection (on both sides of the leaf). If you find Spider Mites you must act fast and hit them hard with either a bleach solution (1 tablespoon of bleach to 1 gallon of very hot 95°F, pH balanced, water in a spray bottle.) Hydroponics Stores also sell Neem Oil and other remedies for spider mites.

Or one of the best things to do is get a bucket of HOT water and make a combination of neem oil and safer soap or additive free dish washing soap. You want the water to be warm so that the neem oil will break apart and mix throughout the water. DO NOT dunk your plants in until the water has safely come back to room temperature.
The safer soap will not only act as a wetting agent to help coat the plant but also weakens the exoskeletons of the lil buggers. The neem oil will make them immobile so they cannot move and suffocate them.
Dunking is the most effective method while they are smaller because it coats everything from the ground up, but this is a very effective spray. You should spray every three days, the undersides of the leaves or dunk every three days depending on size. This is the most eco friendly and safest method of treatment. This is what you should try first.
 
I really like the time and effort you put in to this. your insite has helped me out more than you knw. i just bought the stealth hydro kit and i have it all set up i just need to know if i have to set a timer on my drip and if i do how long do i do it each day?
 

RPsmoke420

Active Member
I really like the time and effort you put in to this. your insite has helped me out more than you knw. i just bought the stealth hydro kit and i have it all set up i just need to know if i have to set a timer on my drip and if i do how long do i do it each day?
Because I cannot pm you...

This thread is slightly more appropriate to ask/answer questions.

https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/7897-stealth-hydro-bubbleponics-systems-1443.html

Congrats on your new purchase. I will gladly answer your question over there. :peace:
 

jerkin247

Well-Known Member
Problems

Spider Mites - Spider mites are not insects but are more closely related to spiders. These arachnids have four pairs of legs, no antennae and a single, oval body region. Most spider mites have the ability to produce a fine silk webbing. Spider mites are very tiny, being less than 1/50 inch (0.4mm) long when adults. Spider mites have tiny mouthparts modified for piercing individual plant cells and removing the contents. This results in tiny yellow or white speckles. When many of these feeding spots occur near each other, the foliage takes on a yellow or bronzed cast. Once the foliage of a plant becomes bronzed, it often drops prematurely. Heavily infested plants may be discolored, stunted or even killed. Web producing spider mites may coat the foliage with the fine silk which collects dust and looks dirty. Spider mite species seem to be warm weather or cool weather active pests. Adult females usually lay eggs on their host plants. The eggs hatch in days to weeks into the first stage, called a larva. Larvae are round bodied and have only three pairs of legs. The larvae feed for a few days, seek a sheltered spot to rest and then molt into the first nymphal stage. The first nymph now has four pairs of legs. The first nymphs feed a few days, rest and molt into the second nymph. The second nymphs feed, rest and molt into the adult stage. The males are usually the size of the second nymph and have pointed abdomens. The females have rounded abdomens and are the largest mites present. Most spider mites spend the winter in the egg stage but the twospotted spider mite over winters as adult females resting in protected places.

Solution - Early detection of spider mites, before damage is noticed, is VERY important. The tiny spider mites can be detected only by a full and thorough leaf inspection (on both sides of the leaf). If you find Spider Mites you must act fast and hit them hard with either a bleach solution (1 tablespoon of bleach to 1 gallon of very hot 95°F, pH balanced, water in a spray bottle.) Hydroponics Stores also sell Neem Oil and other remedies for spider mites.

Or one of the best things to do is get a bucket of HOT water and make a combination of neem oil and safer soap or additive free dish washing soap. You want the water to be warm so that the neem oil will break apart and mix throughout the water. DO NOT dunk your plants in until the water has safely come back to room temperature.
The safer soap will not only act as a wetting agent to help coat the plant but also weakens the exoskeletons of the lil buggers. The neem oil will make them immobile so they cannot move and suffocate them.
Dunking is the most effective method while they are smaller because it coats everything from the ground up, but this is a very effective spray. You should spray every three days, the undersides of the leaves or dunk every three days depending on size. This is the most eco friendly and safest method of treatment. This is what you should try first.

i just detected spidermites on my four day 46 of 12/12 plants. what should i do? is it too late to spray stuff like bleach and others on my plants roseman? thanks for the help. if this isnt the right thread to place my post please redirect it and i will delete or whatever
 

c5rftw

Well-Known Member
Very helpful thread and you were right, i wish i read this before i started roseman. thx bro
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
i just detected spidermites on my four day 46 of 12/12 plants. what should i do? is it too late to spray stuff like bleach and others on my plants roseman? thanks for the help. if this isnt the right thread to place my post please redirect it and i will delete or whatever

If you find Spider Mites you must act fast and hit them hard with either a bleach solution (1 tablespoon of bleach to 1 gallon of very hot 95°F, pH balanced, water in a spray bottle.) Hydroponics Stores also sell Neem Oil and other remedies for spider mites.

Or one of the best things to do is get a bucket of HOT water and make a combination of neem oil and safer soap or additive free dish washing soap. You want the water to be warm so that the neem oil will break apart and mix throughout the water. DO NOT dunk your plants in until the water has safely come back to room temperature.
The safer soap will not only act as a wetting agent to help coat the plant but also weakens the exoskeletons of the lil buggers. The neem oil will make them immobile so they cannot move and suffocate them.
Dunking is the most effective method while they are smaller because it coats everything from the ground up, but this is a very effective spray. You should spray every three days, the undersides of the leaves or dunk every three days depending on size. This is the most eco friendly and safest method of treatment. This is what you should try first.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
I have already posted this 14 times and I do not understand the illiteracy or not being able to comprehend the message.

I'm goint to type it very slow, maybe you just can not read fast.

I am closing the thread to stop the chat room hijacking. I am being asked alot of questions already answered in the thread and I just don't understand it.
I will reopen it later.


If you have questions about YOUR grow, please invite me to YOUR thread, or go here:

Questions about Bubbleponic Growing Thread

or here:
Roseman and purpdaddys guide for my Bubbleponics setup from Stealth Hydroponic

Posting YOUR grow in someone else's thread is called
Hi-jacking a thread.
Asking me questions here about YOUR Grow is
inappropriate.
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
I did a complete Drain and Replinish today. I was not 100% happy with the smell from my bucket and one of my tanks. It should smell like fresh cut iceburg lettuce, or alfalfa sprouts. It smelled like an old used floor mop. My roots were not discolored, but they were not perfectly snowy white either. My water was not slimey, so I am certain I do not have a problem YET, but I am not taking any chances. This is why we must do a Drain and Replinish weekly at this stage of the grow. It is Saturday and I do love spending time with my plants. So I decided to do a complete drain and rinse, as much as I could, and I filled them back up with fresh water, and three teaspoons of peroxide per gallon of water. I then let them sit 5 minutes, and I Drained them again, and added back 5.9 pH balanced water and a full dose of nutes.

Yesterday, I stopped by Lowes and bought a new 5 foot lenght of clear plastic tube, for 40 cents a foot. My old one had some mold in it and I was no comfortable sticking that in ym reservoir.

Today I took a one by four board, about 7 inches long, and made me a prop to hold my lid up while I had my hand and arm in the tank.








The board looks longer in the pic, but it worked just right.




Yea, I damaged a few leaves doing the Drain and Replinish.


If you are following along with me, I removed the Irrigation Hubs and tubes. After 4 weeks, the tubes can harbor dead roots and mold in them that will mess up the pH. I still leave my pump in, and running, and I use it to pump the tank empty. It also shoots the water up in the air a few inches and aerates and cools the water.
 

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Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
Took these pics today. Tallest plant is 30 inches, most average 26 inches tall. The very tall one in the bucket is bent and tied over, with the grow cup hanging 1/4 way out of the lid. I made a mistake growing three mature plants in this 5 gallon bucket. Two years ago, I put three clones in the same 5 gallon bucket and they thrived, and did good, but they did not get any where near this BIG.

The tank with 6 plants, is in this pic. Been in VEG from seed for 5 weeks, three days. I will start 12/12 tomorrow.


 

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Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
The tank to the far left of the closet in this pic.
It has 5 plants, been Vegging 4 weeks, 4 days. I have STRETCHED it and STRETCHED it until it is as tall as the tank is that is a week older. It looks like it has the tallest plant, but it does not. The plant in the bucket is a lot taller, but is bent over in front of that tank.

 

jonboy30

Well-Known Member
hey roseman...thanks for all your hardwork and patience for us noob bubbleponic growers. You totally convinced me to switch to bubbles and have not regretted a single moment. You are truly an inspiration to all. Please feel free to visit my grow in my sig...hope to see you there!

~JB
 
awesome pictures, thank you for all the hard work on your tutorials / journals... everyone is super grateful. thanks roseman
 

CaptJack

Member
Thank you for this incredible education. I might be jumping the gun but now that you are at 12/12 how do you remove males with the huge tangled root mass? I have been wonderinghow not to leave behind a lot of dead roots.

Thank you.
 
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