Russia didn't do it

Milliardo Peacecraft

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then point out where in the report it says that.

page number and paragraph, please.

thanks.
Give me the report on the FBI's investigation of the DNC's servers. Oh wait, there was never such an investigation. How can such a declaration be made without even investigating the server? The CIA's assessment was based on circumstantial evidence. Don't listen to me, here's what the NYT said:

"But the declassified report contained no information about how the agencies had collected their data or had come to their conclusions. So it is bound to be attacked by skeptics and by partisans of Mr. Trump, who see the review as a political effort to impugn the legitimacy of his election. Intelligence officials have rejected that view."

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/russia-hack-report.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

And from the report itself:

"Some of our judgments about Kremlin preferences and intent are drawn from the behavior of Kremlinloyal political figures, state media, and pro-Kremlin social media actors, all of whom the Kremlin either directly uses to convey messages or who are answerable to the Kremlin. The Russian leadership invests significant resources in both foreign and domestic propaganda and places a premium on transmitting what it views as consistent, self-reinforcing narratives regarding its desires and redlines, whether on Ukraine, Syria, or relations with the United States."

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

If you actually read the report, the alleged "influence" was largely based on media outreach and viewership. Check the final page for their highly technical "confidence index". There are no concrete allegations in that report, their determination is based on RT viewership numbers and pro-kremlin tweets. Step it up guys.
 

UncleBuck

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Give me the report on the FBI's investigation of the DNC's servers. Oh wait, there was never such an investigation. How can such a declaration be made without even investigating the server? The CIA's assessment was based on circumstantial evidence. Don't listen to me, here's what the NYT said:

"But the declassified report contained no information about how the agencies had collected their data or had come to their conclusions. So it is bound to be attacked by skeptics and by partisans of Mr. Trump, who see the review as a political effort to impugn the legitimacy of his election. Intelligence officials have rejected that view."

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/russia-hack-report.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

And from the report itself:

"Some of our judgments about Kremlin preferences and intent are drawn from the behavior of Kremlinloyal political figures, state media, and pro-Kremlin social media actors, all of whom the Kremlin either directly uses to convey messages or who are answerable to the Kremlin. The Russian leadership invests significant resources in both foreign and domestic propaganda and places a premium on transmitting what it views as consistent, self-reinforcing narratives regarding its desires and redlines, whether on Ukraine, Syria, or relations with the United States."

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

If you actually read the report, the alleged "influence" was largely based on media outreach and viewership. Check the final page for their highly technical "confidence index". There are no concrete allegations in that report, their determination is based on RT viewership numbers and pro-kremlin tweets. Step it up guys.
that was a lot of copying and pasting when all you had to say was "the CIA made no judgments in their report as to whether the russian hacking influenced the lection. their job is to report what happened, not how anyone may have responded to it".
 

squarepush3r

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all that copying and pasting and the fact still remains: the trump campaign coordinated directly with vladimir putin to leak stolen information from the DNC in an attempt to influence the election.
Right, you mean during the public 2nd debate, where Trump asked on national television for Russia to please hack Hillary?

1) This was obviously a joke
2) If Trump did coordinate with Putin, it wouldn't be on national TV
3) This is already several months AFTER Podesta/DNC information was leaked, so it would not make sense to say the hack was a result of Trumps request. Even if Trump and Putin were working together, and even if Trump asked on TV for Russia to please hack Hillary, this is way after the fact so its not proof of coordination or imply anything

Critical thinking skills must be difficult for you when you don't have your twitter feed telling you what to think and say.
 

UncleBuck

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Right, you mean during the public 2nd debate, where Trump asked on national television for Russia to please hack Hillary?
facts are completely worthless for you, aren't they?

trump asked russia to conduct foreign espionage on the united states at his last press conference in july, dipshit.

and the stolen information that russia hacked and leaked at the behest of vladimir putin started dropping on the very same day that tqump's infamous "here's my preferred method for sexually assaulting women" tape came out.

at least try to work from a factual basis, you racist idiot.
 

squarepush3r

Well-Known Member
facts are completely worthless for you, aren't they?

trump asked russia to conduct foreign espionage on the united states at his last press conference in july, dipshit.

and the stolen information that russia hacked and leaked at the behest of vladimir putin started dropping on the very same day that tqump's infamous "here's my preferred method for sexually assaulting women" tape came out.

at least try to work from a factual basis, you racist idiot.
Trump asked Russia to find the 30,000 email thats Hillary deleted and wiped from her server for the FBI investigation. This was after the Podesta and DNC "leaks" so unless Putin has a time machines, your theory goes out the window, no matter how clever you think you sound. Also, 30,000 emails that Hillary wiped were separate from DNC and Podesta leaks, which Russia did not "hack" or find.
 

rkymtnman

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Trump asked Russia to find the 30,000 email thats Hillary deleted and wiped from her server for the FBI investigation. This was after the Podesta and DNC "leaks" so unless Putin has a time machines, your theory goes out the window, no matter how clever you think you sound. Also, 30,000 emails that Hillary wiped were separate from DNC and Podesta leaks, which Russia did not "hack" or find.
what if Putin didn't really want Trump to win but he just wanted Hillary to lose after a "woman" put him in his place while she was SOS?
 
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