Russia didn't do it

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Hey, here's a treaty outlining mutual assistance between the US and Russia regarding criminal matters including cyber-crime, by which Russia is obligated to assist in a criminal investigation if they have the capacity. A criminal investigation like, say, Clinton destroying state property by deleting her emails that were on an illegal server. Oh, it was also signed by Bill Clinton.

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/22/document-text?overview=closed
 

Justin-case

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Hey, here's a treaty outlining mutual assistance between the US and Russia regarding criminal matters including cyber-crime, by which Russia is obligated to assist in a criminal investigation if they have the capacity. A criminal investigation like, say, Clinton destroying state property by deleting her emails that were on an illegal server. Oh, it was also signed by Bill Clinton.

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/22/document-text?overview=closed

Lol, Do you think Russia hacked Hillary's email account?
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Lol, Do you think Russia hacked Hillary's email account?
No, I think the emails were available the whole time the investigation was going on through a FOIA request for the XKeyScore metadata of Clinton's server. The emails weren't recovered intentionally, as the means to do so were available to any agency that cared to put in the request.

Russia didn't hack the emails, but if they had a system comparable to XKeyScore, or secured the emails though a concurrent investigation of, say, an individual that gained access to the unsecured server, providing the documents to the FBI would not only be legal, it would be their obligation under that treaty.

If they had any of that material, it wouldn't have been an act of espionage, as the server was not secured or property of the state. Trump merely asked them to comply with international treaty law if they were capable of producing any evidence. I hardly call that "treason".
 

see4

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Trump asked Russia to find the 30,000 email thats Hillary deleted and wiped from her server for the FBI investigation. This was after the Podesta and DNC "leaks" so unless Putin has a time machines, your theory goes out the window, no matter how clever you think you sound. Also, 30,000 emails that Hillary wiped were separate from DNC and Podesta leaks, which Russia did not "hack" or find.
You offer up a lot of, "but but but", however nothing you've said or copied and pasted has anything to do with reality. Why is that?
 

see4

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No, I think the emails were available the whole time the investigation was going on through a FOIA request for the XKeyScore metadata of Clinton's server. The emails weren't recovered intentionally, as the means to do so were available to any agency that cared to put in the request.

Russia didn't hack the emails, but if they had a system comparable to XKeyScore, or secured the emails though a concurrent investigation of, say, an individual that gained access to the unsecured server, providing the documents to the FBI would not only be legal, it would be their obligation under that treaty.

If they had any of that material, it wouldn't have been an act of espionage, as the server was not secured or property of the state. Trump merely asked them to comply with international treaty law if they were capable of producing any evidence. I hardly call that "treason".
What? Now you're just making shit up off the top of your head.

You've still not provided a page number and paragraph where is stated that the Russian hacks had no effect on the election. Why is that?
 

UncleBuck

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No, I think the emails were available the whole time the investigation was going on through a FOIA request for the XKeyScore metadata of Clinton's server. The emails weren't recovered intentionally, as the means to do so were available to any agency that cared to put in the request.

Russia didn't hack the emails, but if they had a system comparable to XKeyScore, or secured the emails though a concurrent investigation of, say, an individual that gained access to the unsecured server, providing the documents to the FBI would not only be legal, it would be their obligation under that treaty.

If they had any of that material, it wouldn't have been an act of espionage, as the server was not secured or property of the state. Trump merely asked them to comply with international treaty law if they were capable of producing any evidence. I hardly call that "treason".
you have an active imagination kiddo.

now tell us again about how the holocaust was fake.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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you have an active imagination kiddo.

now tell us again about how the holocaust was fake.
You always have the best arguments, Buck.

unverifiable propaganda.

cite a better source next time, racist shitbag.
That "propaganda" was verified by the DNC and 17 intelligence agencies to be authentic. None of the timestamps on the emails or any of their contents were tampered with prior to wikileaks publication of the archive. You're squirming. Now call me a racist again, I'm sure I'll be sent reeling this time.

Long story short, Trump won, I was right, now you get to stomp your feet and throw a four year temper tantrum while companies are pouring investment into the US and the Dow is hitting 20k. YOU LOST WEENIE, CRY MORE.
 

UncleBuck

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That "propaganda" was verified by the DNC and 17 intelligence agencies to be authentic. None of the timestamps on the emails or any of their contents were tampered with prior to wikileaks publication of the archive.
where in the report do they authenticate every single wikileak?

page number and paragraph please, holocaust denier.
 

UncleBuck

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When have you ever heard the claim that something wikileaks has published has been edited? One instance, is all I'm asking for.
it's stolen material leaked by a hostile foreign government, it is not possible to verify anything of that nature you moron.

now please cite your claim that 17 intelligence agencies "verified" these to be "authentic", holocaust denier.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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it's stolen material leaked by a hostile foreign government, it is not possible to verify anything of that nature you moron.

now please cite your claim that 17 intelligence agencies "verified" these to be "authentic", holocaust denier.
Their verification being, they've never said "these leaks are full of doctored information". Find a credible source saying that those leaks contained edited material, you cannot. No intelligence agency has said that the information leaked was not authentic. Wikileaks has a track record of 0 inauthentic documents ever published, you're pushing a rope. If Wikileaks published a fake document, you'd have heard about it.

You seem to think making baseless assertions and then claiming the burden of proof is on the rest of the world is somehow an argument. You are clinically insane Buck.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Where did they say the documents weren't authentic? Show me that. You know as well as I that US intelligence isn't going to dignify an organization like Wikileaks with an accolade like that, but they are vulnerable to a libel suit if they were to claim anything else. Have they ever made that claim? I didn't think so.

Shoot the messenger, the Russians rigged the election by exposing how the DNC was rigging the election. There is no basis to the claim that the leaks were provided by the Russian state, no intelligence agency will provide anything but heavy conjecture, and it's irrelevant now BECAUSE YOU ALREADY LOST. IT'S OVER BUCK, YOU LOST AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DOOOOOOOO HEHEHEHEHE I WAS RIIIIIGHT.
 
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