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ttystikk

ttystikk

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More from the above link listing Bernie Sanders' record of accomplishments;

"Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.

Named one of the top 5 American Jews of the Forward 50 in 2015."

...yet the Buckwit the neoliberal still hates him, so Buckwit must think his own wallet is more important than the needs of black and Hispanic Americans, or even Jewish people.

Golly, can you say 'hypocrite' three times fast, Buckwit? I'm just setting the record straight, since none of you ballwashers ever seem inclined to.
 
UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
More from the above link listing Bernie Sanders' record of accomplishments;

"Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.

Named one of the top 5 American Jews of the Forward 50 in 2015."

...yet the Buckwit the neoliberal still hates him, so Buckwit must think his own wallet is more important than the needs of black and Hispanic Americans, or even Jewish people.

Golly, can you say 'hypocrite' three times fast, Buckwit? I'm just setting the record straight, since none of you ballwashers ever seem inclined to.
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are you upset?
 
travisw

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ttystikk said:
Apparently you're either too lazy or stupid (or both) to Google his record, so I've helpfully done it for you;

http://addictinginfo.com/2016/02/19/heres-a-long-list-of-bernie-sanders-accomplishments-with-citations/

The only one who has done nothing with his life is the schmuck staring back at you in the mirror.
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While people like yourself, may feel it's important to share a list of accomplishments that begins with a race Bernie ran 60 years ago, many of us are more interested in his legislative accomplishments. For instance, did you know, in the quarter of a century he's been in the House, he has introduced over 300 bills, 3 of which became law? His ability to get the names of 2 fucking post offices changed in 25 years is a little more relevant than what extracurricular activity Bernie participated in while he was in high school.

https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q={"congress":"all","sponsorship":"sponsored","type":"bills","bill-status":"introduced"}

 
Padawanbater2

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From 1995 to 2007, Sanders passed 17 amendments by a recorded roll call vote — more than any other member in the House.

Passed amendments sponsored by Bernie Sanders

In comparison, Hillary Clinton passed zero roll call amendments during her tenure as a senator from New York from 2001-09.
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For instance, did you know, in the quarter of a century he's been in the House, he has introduced over 300 bills, 3 of which became law? His ability to get the names of 2 fucking post offices changed in 25 years is a little more relevant than what extracurricular activity Bernie participated in while he was in high school.
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Sanders got more done under a Republican congress than Clinton did her entire career as a senator
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
From 1995 to 2007, Sanders passed 17 amendments by a recorded roll call vote — more than any other member in the House.

Passed amendments sponsored by Bernie Sanders

In comparison, Hillary Clinton passed zero roll call amendments during her tenure as a senator from New York from 2001-09.




Sanders got more done under a Republican congress than Clinton did her entire career as a senator
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"entire career as a senator" LOL, how long was that compared to bernie?

Amendments to bills. You quote a Sanders campaign ad. Sounds great. But is given a grade of D for truthfulness. It turns out he cherry picked data to find a subset that agreed with him. If bills passed by voice vote and roll call votes, Bernie has no leg to stand on when making that claim.

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/politics/election/iowa-caucus/fact-checker-just-how-effective-was-bernie-sanders-with-a-republican-congress-20160108

Fact Checker: Just how effective was Bernie Sanders with a Republican Congress?
Conclusion

Voice votes and roll call votes serve different purposes, but the Sanders ad didn’t make clear his reference was to a subset of amendments when claiming he “passed more amendments in a Republican Congress than any other member.”

In our review, which was not exhaustive, we found at least one Democratic colleague — Rep. Traficant — who in fewer terms passed far more amendments.

It’s true the Vermont senator is more prolific than many lawmakers at sponsoring successful amendments, particularly more consequential ones requiring roll-call votes, but taken at face value the claim is off the mark.

Fact Checker scores this claim a D.

Pad, I keep reminding you to stop reading just the headlines and check into the facts before making out sized claims. But, no, you simply won't and as a result just make yourself a target for mockery and abuse.
 
travisw

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Padawanbater2 said:
From 1995 to 2007, Sanders passed 17 amendments by a recorded roll call vote — more than any other member in the House.

Passed amendments sponsored by Bernie Sanders

In comparison, Hillary Clinton passed zero roll call amendments during her tenure as a senator from New York from 2001-09.




Sanders got more done under a Republican congress than Clinton did her entire career as a senator
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This is a thread about Bernie Sanders sport. If you think your incessant prattling about Hillary Clinton means a thing to me, you're mistaken.

Are roll call votes suddenly the ultimate arbiter of success in politics? James Traficant of Ohio got 16 passed in five fewer years than your hero, and James was a fucking criminal. I think if you want to vote for the person with the most roll call votes past, you'd better hope that Jeff Flake runs.

But in the interest of intellectual honesty, given that I was discussing bills passed, Hillary got 3 bills passed in 8 years.

 
Padawanbater2

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Sanders got more done, probably adds to why he's the most popular politician in the country. He's holding a town hall tonight about income and wealth inequality with Elizabeth Warren, actually working for the American people
 
abandonconflict

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travisw said:
While people like yourself, may feel it's important to share a list of accomplishments that begins with a race Bernie ran 60 years ago, many of us are more interested in his legislative accomplishments. For instance, did you know, in the quarter of a century he's been in the House, he has introduced over 300 bills, 3 of which became law? His ability to get the names of 2 fucking post offices changed in 25 years is a little more relevant than what extracurricular activity Bernie participated in while he was in high school.

https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q={"congress":"all","sponsorship":"sponsored","type":"bills","bill-status":"introduced"}

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Well, he did manage to help Trump get elected, if you're into that sort of thing.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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travisw said:
While people like yourself, may feel it's important to share a list of accomplishments that begins with a race Bernie ran 60 years ago, many of us are more interested in his legislative accomplishments. For instance, did you know, in the quarter of a century he's been in the House, he has introduced over 300 bills, 3 of which became law? His ability to get the names of 2 fucking post offices changed in 25 years is a little more relevant than what extracurricular activity Bernie participated in while he was in high school.

https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q={"congress":"all","sponsorship":"sponsored","type":"bills","bill-status":"introduced"}

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You didn't read the list.

Google 'amendment King'. There is more than one way to get your legislative agenda passed.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
"entire career as a senator" LOL, how long was that compared to bernie?

Amendments to bills. You quote a Sanders campaign ad. Sounds great. But is given a grade of D for truthfulness. It turns out he cherry picked data to find a subset that agreed with him. If bills passed by voice vote and roll call votes, Bernie has no leg to stand on when making that claim.

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/politics/election/iowa-caucus/fact-checker-just-how-effective-was-bernie-sanders-with-a-republican-congress-20160108

Fact Checker: Just how effective was Bernie Sanders with a Republican Congress?
Conclusion

Voice votes and roll call votes serve different purposes, but the Sanders ad didn’t make clear his reference was to a subset of amendments when claiming he “passed more amendments in a Republican Congress than any other member.”

In our review, which was not exhaustive, we found at least one Democratic colleague — Rep. Traficant — who in fewer terms passed far more amendments.

It’s true the Vermont senator is more prolific than many lawmakers at sponsoring successful amendments, particularly more consequential ones requiring roll-call votes, but taken at face value the claim is off the mark.

Fact Checker scores this claim a D.

Pad, I keep reminding you to stop reading just the headlines and check into the facts before making out sized claims. But, no, you simply won't and as a result just make yourself a target for mockery and abuse.
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So you agree that Hillary Clinton was an interactive legislator.

Why would you think she'd make a better president than Bernie?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
Sanders got more done, probably adds to why he's the most popular politician in the country. He's holding a town hall tonight about income and wealth inequality with Elizabeth Warren, actually working for the American people
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Oh come now, you know that none of these people can be bothered to hear about a representative of the people who actually shows up to listen to them.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
So you agree that Hillary Clinton was an interactive legislator.

Why would you think she'd make a better president than Bernie?
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If I said that it was with hindsight. Please recall that I voted for Bernie when it mattered. I wouldn't vote for Hillary in 2020 primary either. From what I see, there are others who can do the job and certainly I don't want to see a repeat of 2016.

I'd vote for Hillary or Bernie or Biden or any number of Democrats before I would vote for Trump in the general election and I know you would too if your state were a tossup.

You are listening to the wrong people and have lost your way.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
If I said that it was with hindsight. Please recall that I voted for Bernie when it mattered. I wouldn't vote for Hillary in 2020 primary either. From what I see, there are others who can do the job and certainly I don't want to see a repeat of 2016.

I'd vote for Hillary or Bernie or Biden or any number of Democrats before I would vote for Trump in the general election and I know you would too if your state were a tossup.

You are listening to the wrong people and have lost your way.
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That you are so concerned with my direction tells me that you don't have one of your own- which is exactly the problem with establishment Democrats today.
 
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