Schuylaar's Sesh - Issa/Cummings Exchange..

Doer said:
So, how come every witness to Congress from the Exec, doesn't just plea the 5th? If you claim protection from self incrimination, all you are saying is, I won't hang me. That doesn't mean, no hanging is needed.

How many witnesses before these committees have done that? So, no it is very serious and one has to be so on the edge of prison, you dare not say a word.

None of these witnesses got their words turned to anywhere near that. So, they did not, but she did require this extraordinary protection. She has to proclaim that she is so afraid of criminal justice, she cannot talk at all.

No one else did that.
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no doer..what the 5th is saying in "our blessed year of the lord 2014", i will not be judged on One wrong eye movement, or a poorly phrased statement.
 
UncleBuck said:
i'll tell you who brought up benghazi first, second, third, fourth, fifth, ..., and Nth.

dumb ass republicans like you.

EVEYTHING is benghazi.

i am benghazi, you are benghazi, my cat is benghazi, guns are benghazi, rocks are benghazi.

benghazi.
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hey! hey! i'm thinking of changing my name to benghazi..you and your cat better NOT be benghazi:lol:
 
schuylaar said:
no doer..what the 5th is saying in "our blessed year of the lord 2014", i will not be judged on One wrong eye movement, or a poorly phrased statement.
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Yes, and I am so afraid of prison, IS WHY, I cannot risk a word.

You are just making it up. Just check the record of how many times this has even happened. HA Haaa.

You act like it is commonplace. Too funny, PART. And you know nothing of LAW to even think that way.

You act like the DEMS are godly. You are just a PART.
 
Doer said:
Yes, and I am so afraid of prison, IS WAY, I cannot risk a word.

You are just making it up. Just check the record of how many times this has even happened. HA Haaa.

You act like it is commonplace. Too funny, PART. And you know nothing of LAW to even think that way,
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Once again, how often it happens does not make it okay. Try making a rebuttal based on something based in reason.
 
Doer said:
Yes, and I am so afraid of prison, IS WHY, I cannot risk a word.

You are just making it up. Just check the record of how many times this has even happened. HA Haaa.

You act like it is commonplace. Too funny, PART. And you know nothing of LAW to even think that way.

You act like the DEMS are godly. You are just a PART.
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no doer..we are layman, not attorneys or judges..this goes for the irs as well..never do your own talking..an ex-irs agent cpa is your best friend and worth his/her weight in gold:wink:
 
schuylaar said:
no doer..we are layman, not attorneys or judges..this goes for the irs as well..never do your own talking..an ex-irs agent cpa is your best friend and worth his/her weight in gold:wink:
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You are tap dancing when the 5th A is about protection from Criminal Prosecution, self hanging. This has nothing to do with a tax audit. And if you simply plea the 5th, in a tax audit you are raising the eyebrows of suspicion, in the room. Nice try, PART. Snipes tried that.

If you were not such a PART, (meld damn you), you would see the non-value of those analogies.

Learner is afraid of the DEMS and the shot of potassium.
 
kpmarine said:
Once again, how often it happens does not make it okay. Try making a rebuttal based on something based in reason.
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Stop it. It is neither OK nor not OK. It is a Constitutional protection from Self incrimination. INCRIM OF WHAT?

And numbers matter since 10s of 1000s of people testify and never plead the 5th. IT IS SO UNUSUAL.

Don't you get that? OK? We are all watching. And in the court of public opinion is the gut of Politics.

She is not afraid of the Right. Balderdash, She fears, Rom Emmanuel and the Chicago mob fixers.

She fears being accidented.
 
Doer said:
You are tap dancing when the 5th A is about protection from Criminal Prosecution, self hanging. This has nothing to do with a tax audit. And if you simply plea the 5th, in a tax audit you are raising the eyebrows of suspicion, in the room. Nice try, PART. Snipes tried that.

If you were not such a PART, (meld damn you), you would see the non-value of those analogies.

Learner is afraid of the DEMS and the shot of potassium.
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fail..it's all about language and nuance..NEVER do your own talking..how many attorney's and cpa's does your company have on retainer, doer?

or do you have them on staff?
 
Doer said:
Stop it. It is neither OK nor not OK. It is a Constitutional protection from Self incrimination. INCRIM OF WHAT?

And numbers matter since 10s of 1000s of people testify and never plead the 5th. IT IS SO UNUSUAL.

Don't you get that? OK? We are all watching. And in the court of public opinion is the gut of Politics.

She is not afraid of the Right. Balderdash, She fears, Rom Emmanuel and the Chicago mob fixers.

She fears being accidented.
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This is the most intelligent thing I've heard on this issue, you are right Doer, I didn't even think of that.
I still find it odd for people to defend the IRS, very odd.
 
schuylaar said:
fail..it's all about language and nuance..NEVER do your own talking..how may attorney's and cpa's does your company have on retainer, doer?
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Oh silly. I have both a labor attorney and a CPA on retainer, myself. I have sued and been sued, and been deposed by retards and experts. And you are dodging. It doesn't matter what your attorney says, he cannot plea the 5th to the IRS, for you. You have to open mouth and utter statement if you want it.

And by doing so, you focus an un-focused investigation to laser beam on you.
Hiding something.

So, lets say, little Sky has a blacked out Crown Vic show up with FBI plates. They identify themselves and say come with us, as they lay that gentle guiding hand on your elbow.

Now suddenly life is very real, is it not? What about your lunch??? Homework??? They are serious and you are about to disappear into the Federal Building for some long hours of explanation. But, they won't tell you what it is about. They will jail you if you lie. You have not been there, but I have. They wanted me to wear a wire. And they were none too happy that I would not agree. It was very long night, and I was slapped silly more than once.

So, you better pee in your pants and not drink any water offered. They intend to break your will.

So, where is your 5th plea in this? They are just detaining you. You don't have a right to a lawyer yet. Do you think saying "I refuse to answer...blah, blah," makes the slaps, less heavy or more so?

HA Haaaaa. :)
 
Doer said:
Stop it. It is neither OK nor not OK. It is a Constitutional protection from Self incrimination. INCRIM OF WHAT?

And numbers matter since 10s of 1000s of people testify and never plead the 5th. IT IS SO UNUSUAL.

Don't you get that? OK? We are all watching. And in the court of public opinion is the gut of Politics.

She is not afraid of the Right. Balderdash, She fears, Rom Emmanuel and the Chicago mob fixers.

She fears being accidented.
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precisely, anything she says can be misconstrued..therefore she's invoking her right to not speak..
 
schuylaar said:
precisely, anything she says can be misconstrued..therefore she's invoking her right to not speak..
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But no one was afraid to speak. Why is she?

Hiding something of a criminal nature. Or protecting something criminal.

Keep dancing.
 
Doer said:
Oh silly. I have both a labor attorney and a CPA on retainer, myself. I have sued and been sued, and been deposed by retards and experts. And you are dodging. It doesn't matter what your attorney says, he cannot plea the 5th to the IRS, for you. You have to open mouth and utter statement if you want it.

And by doing so, you focus an un-focused investigation to laser beam on you.
Hiding something.

So, lets say, little Sky has a blacked out Crown Vic show up with FBI plates. They identify themselves and say come with us, as they lay that gentle guiding hand on your elbow.

Now suddenly life is very real, is it not? What about your lunch??? Homework??? They are serious and you are about to disappear into the Federal Building for some long hours of explanation. But, they won't tell you what it is about. They will jail you if you lie. You have not been there, but I have. They wanted me to wear a wire. And they were none too happy that I would not agree. It was very long night, and I was slapped silly more than once.

So, you better pee in your pants and not drink any water offered. They intend to break your will.

So, where is your 5th plea in this? They are just detaining you. You don't have a right to a lawyer yet. Do you think saying "I refuse to answer...blah, blah," makes the slaps, less heavy or more so?

HA Haaaaa. :)
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just detention?..i would have not uttered a word.
 
schuylaar said:
just detention?..i would have not uttered a word.
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What if you were given sure knowledge that the one person, you wish they wouldn't, is about to get accidented.....Jesse the cook, remember?. You just do what you are told, Baby Blue, until things are altered. Maybe your Walter White, can get you out?

So, all you can say is, that can't happened just to some ordinary citizen, by the Admin. Can it? Remember who Tony Soprano always blamed. I have read so much about disappearing people, in detail, real and imagined. I know it happens.

IAC, I got a busted lip in detention and bruised quite deeply, and then went to jail. How much shaking can they do to you before you do say a word?

Being roughly shaken by the shoulders, by someone much larger and stronger than you, doesn't even leave a bruise. But, your neck muscles can't take much of that. A big headache and disorientation, you get. Being slapped hard, does induce you to offer at least a bit of eye contact, and after that, the best obvious course is not be so rude. So, if you wish to resist their offers of the Rat, you are forced to at least discuss that with them, for your own good, DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!? Ears can't take much of that. And the guy that knows he has puke breath.

Also, remember how people can just go missing? Now, be Miss Learner for a second.
 
Doer said:
What if you were given sure knowledge that the one person, you wish they wouldn't, is about to get accidented.....Jesse the cook, remember?. You just do what you are told, Baby Blue, until things are altered. Maybe your Walter White, can get you out?

So, all you can say is, that can't happened just to some ordinary citizen, by the Admin. Can it? Remember who Tony Soprano always blamed. I have read so much about disappearing people, in detail, real and imagined. I know it happens.

IAC, I got a busted lip in detention and bruised quite deeply, and then went to jail. How much shaking can they do to you before you do say a word?

Being roughly shaken by the shoulders, by someone much larger and stronger than you, doesn't even leave a bruise. But, your neck muscles can't take much of that. A big headache and disorientation, you get. Being slapped hard, does induce you to offer at least a bit of eye contact, and after that, the best obvious course is not be so rude. So, if you wish to resist their offers of the Rat, you are forced to at least discuss that with them, for your own good, DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!!? Ears can't take much of that. And the guy that knows he has puke breath.

Also, remember how people can just go missing? Now, be Miss Learner for a second.
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doer i've already defeated you in this portion of the debate today..you've been gone 2 hours.

and bucky's back..i must service him:wink:
 
You of all people can' t make the mistake of thinking you can win or that I can be defeated or that you don't get the point.

Yet, a woman mant service many in turn. So, I have never been a clock watcher here. Beg Pardon. I can show myself out and I got nothing for Ben-gay today.
 
Doer said:
You of all people can' t make the mistake of thinking you can win or that I can be defeated or that you don't get the point.

Yet, a woman mant service many in turn. So, I have never been a clock watcher here. Beg Pardon. I can show myself out and I got nothing for Ben-gay today.
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when you walk away for 2 hours that is a forfeit.
 
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