Seedling dramas ?!

Hey all! i have been trying and trying and fucking trying to kickstart some girls, iv been through probably 10 seeds and most have just curled over and died from overwatering etc..


Ive been studying and trying my best to keep grow tent to optimal conditions for my seedlings but this is last one i have was wondering if i could get some if any feedback on it..its been sprouted for like 3 or so weeks now and it just seems it hasn't taken off at all for a good 2 weeks Ive cut back a lot on watering and hoping it will just grow ha. What do you guys think?

Cheers for taking the time to read!!

oh I can see some soil/woodchips, but lots of perlite.... should be either all perlite or perlite/vermiculite or 25% perlite for drainage only. what light please. thanks mate

LetsGetCritical said:

oh I can see some soil/woodchips, but lots of perlite.... should be either all perlite or perlite/vermiculite or 25% perlite for drainage only. what light please. thanks mate

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Hey mate it's a pretty big cfl 48 watt by memory and yeah it's potting mix and perlite both 50/50 mix hope this helps

what light are you using for that? I wouldn't germinate seeds in a tent if I had a choice (I currently don't and have seedlings in with my clones under a 200w CFL). If you have a fluorescent (T5 / T light you're using than see if you can fit her into a closet or small space, keep light 8-12 inches above and water as needed (pick up plant right after a good watering, than remember that weight and do the weight check to know when to water or just get an analog soil moisture meter for a few bucks). If thats under a MH light its probably too intense for that lil guy.

it looks light it wants more light ie light closer can you get it closer and test near the top of plant with hand. I know its hot here anyway. you might want more cfls later on i'd add more now. I don't like the 50-50 mix but should be ok all other things being equal

Bigdawwg said:

Hey all! i have been trying and trying and fucking trying to kickstart some girls, iv been through probably 10 seeds and most have just curled over and died from overwatering etc..


Ive been studying and trying my best to keep grow tent to optimal conditions for my seedlings but this is last one i have was wondering if i could get some if any feedback on it..its been sprouted for like 3 or so weeks now and it just seems it hasn't taken off at all for a good 2 weeks Ive cut back a lot on watering and hoping it will just grow ha. What do you guys think?

Cheers for taking the time to read!!

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These 2 bubba's are roughly 3 weeks from seed under a 4 bulb T5. I grow in Advanced Sunshine Mix #4 (it's simply easier than mixing my own and comes pre-innoculated with Mycorrhizae). Yours look a little to yellow to me. I'd give them a very small shot of Nitrogen. I usually use CannaStart for my first couple seedling feeds. Unfortunately I'm in hydro (soilless), and you are in soil. So I have no clue how you deal with soil. Anyway by three weeks mine (even the more sativa leaning phenos look more like below).


Hope that helps,
Annie

Thanks all for your awesome feedback! I'm using a cfl not mh. The leaves are turning up towards the light don't no if this is good or not? Will try some 1/4 strength nutea maybe?next wAter

Bigdawwg said:

Thanks all for your awesome feedback! I'm using a cfl not mh. The leaves are turning up towards the light don't no if this is good or not? Will try some 1/4 strength nutea maybe?next wAter

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Leaves turning up , we call that Praying and it is usually caused by a lack of magnesium. Take a teaspoon of epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) and dissolve it in a liter of warm water, use that water to add nutes and then water the plants with it when at room temp.

But your plant looks overwatered.

Also, the meter said the humidity was only 37%. Plants at that stage like 60-70% humidity.

NoDrama said:

Leaves turning up , we call that Praying and it is usually caused by a lack of magnesium. Take a teaspoon of epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) and dissolve it in a liter of warm water, use that water to add nutes and then water the plants with it when at room temp.

But your plant looks overwatered.

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Mine tend to pray for lights LOL

Rifleman420 said:

Also, the meter said the humidity was only 37%. Plants at that stage like 60-70% humidity.

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I grow in the Mojave and for a beginning grower humidity does not need to be on the radar unless it's way up. I regularly grow and cure in 10 to 20 per cent range. Although I agree more humidity is better for the plants lack of it won't do much but decrease yield a little bit and most beginners screw up so badly that humidity is the least of their worries LOL.

So just keeping it simple at first is so much easier.

Eliminate (usually) fatal fallovers by propping up seedlings as soon as they go into dirt. I use toothpicks and pipecleaners to rig up little hooks that keep the stem upright.

Good luck, BigSteve.

I don't know what to say other than it doesn't have to be that complicated... leave the perlite out of a seed starting mix. Humidity as mentioned really isn't a huge issue. High humidity really isn't a good thing. What humidity will do is affect how fast your media dries out and if the air is drier your media will dry out faster. Don't mix in any more perlite, you want a media that holds water and air. I add vermiculite to seed mixes instead, in a higher proportion. Seedlings wont germinate if the mix dries out too much in the process.

'Over watering' is what happens when roots are deprived of oxygen and will occur if you have bad (compact) soil. It can also happen if you leave pots sitting in stagnant water, or keep the media constantly drenched. Media should always be saturated initially and then allowed to dry out to the point of being slightly moist beneath the surface.

Lighting does not need to be so far away. I keep the T5 fixture within several inches of the soil surface and move down to just a couple inches once sprouted. Warm temperatures accelerate germination (~72-84F).

Had to cut that short, had some fatherly stuff to do. Seriously though, I see seed germ trouble posts on here all the time and sort of want to rip my hair out.

This is how it goes. SAM#4 with coco coir, compost and vermiculite (with dolomitic lime and eggshell flour). This mix holds water, that's the point. Regular SAM#4 or mixed with some earthworm castings would be fine. Seed goes in a hole. Everything gets watered, put on a heat mat or under lighting. T5's can be put close, this will prevent stretching. Water is not pHed, it is bottled spring water at first and rain water after sprouting.

Seed comes up a few days to a week later. It's about patience, just because your seed doesn't sprout in 48 hours doesn't mean it is no good. I wouldn't want to leave a seed in paper towels for a week, checking on it 3x a day to see if it sprouted.


The larger ones are just about a week from sprouting(Krystalica, Jamaican Dream, Lemon Kush, Deep Cheese). The two on the end (White Widow and Querkle) germinated last just a couple days ago. These need nothing but water until transplant.