SHHH! Don't tell 'em its Miricle Grow!

I agree with the OP
mircal grow is incredible.

NorthernMan said:

Blame not getting high on crappy genetics, not miracle Grow. A better statement would have been:

Back in the 70's all we had was marijuana with crappy genetics,
it was horrible, Could not get high for decades. Until they invented good Marijuana.

You seemed to have completely missed the point of everything I said. The point was that if people don't know what they are judging, they will do so FAIRLY and give a true unbiased assessment of the weed itself and not the way it was grown.

Tell an organic freak that it was miracle grow and thewy will turn up their noses and say that they don't want to smoke chemical weed. Take that verysame person, tell them what they want to hear and they will tell you how awesomely flavorful and potent the weed is.

You just proved my point about prejudice. You blame not getting high in the 70's on miracle grow instead of crappy genetics. Did you even read the first post on this thread? Doesn't sound like it.

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I think you missed something.

doublejj said:

I get good results with Maxsea.........................

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I guess you do get awesome results, incredible looking plants or trees, hell I don't know what you call those, Monsters?

So educated me on this fomula, is this stuff a practical solution when guerrilla growing? How much money for how much product? and were do you get it.
I'm always looking to learn better methods. I started this thread because of a thread I read somewhere else on here that was bashing MG and doing so without being honest or fair.

For the record. When I built my growroom I went all out and spent lots of money buying lots of products, all high end organics and my outdoor grown with Miracle Grow blew it all away. My grow-room looked like a lab with so many bottles of this and that and I kept great records. I was not impressed.
I conducted blind taste tests on people all the time. "Herr, sit down and try this one, what do you think? Now try this, which one do you want?"

My outdoor Miracle Grow weed was always preferred when the test was done Blind. I had people who wanted me to tell them which was the indoor because they were prejudice towards indoor always being better than outdoor. I'd just ask them which one smells better and looks better and tastes better, but some people don't want to give a real opinion. They want their position reinforced and don't like blind tests because they might pick the wrong one and make themselves look foolish.

I'm always open to new ideas but I'm also smart enough to know what has worked the best for me for 25 years. I always conduct experiments and when something beats Miracle Grow I'll never use it again and will begin recommending what works better.

Some people have had life kick the snot out of them and are on tight budgets, some people are growing guerrilla patches and must consider and quick and easy solution. I always dug a vault to keep my equipment and water jugs ect. near the patch and it was really easy to put one scoop of MG into each gallon when out in the middle of nowhere.

I started this thread for the people who don't have many choices and will be "beat up" by the organic crowd over using MG. As long as they flush the plants for 2 weeks the weed will be awesome, awesome enough to fool Danny Danko and the high Times boys and all the rest of the fertilizer snobs. What you decide to tell people is up to you. I don't pertend to grow organically, I'm not to impressed by organic weed.

I had two choices when I went to the High Times party, Tell them I used Miracle Grow and hang my head in shame and let them belittle my weed or TEST my weed and see if anyone had anything negative to say. Would anyone say it had a chemical taste? I wanted to see what people who prize themselves on smoking and JUDGING the best weed on earth, would say about my weed. It was an experiment. If I had toild the truth I'd have had a shitty night, with weed snobs telling me how I was doing it all wrong. Instead I had an awesome night of people telling me what I did right!

For all you closet Miracle Grow users, let them judge your weed first, before you tell them what it is. Get them to tell you it tastes great and then laugh when after you tell them its miracle grow they try to pull the old,"I knew there was a chemical taste to it but I was trying to be polite."



I do want to try the maxsea products as an experiment and compare. I see on the post below that they have 16-16-16 and 3-20-20, when do you use which? With MG I always went with 20-20-20 until flowering and switched to 15_30-15 during budding. Why drop the Nitrogen down so low? Not questioning in a snobby way, but in a information gathering way.

Fungus Gnat said:

I think you missed something.

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LOL Yup, I did miss the sarcasm, its hard to tell when someone is serious or being sarchastic, especially on short posts without things to use as a reference as to how someone perceives things. Doesn't happen to me much, lol, I tend to spell it out so nobody gets the wrong idea, in a long winded sort of way.

Check out Garden Boss' 2013 grow, he uses Maxsea......https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/688491-growing-growing-growing.html

NorthernMan said:

Blame not getting high on crappy genetics, not miracle Grow. A better statement would have been:

Back in the 70's all we had was marijuana with crappy genetics,
it was horrible, Could not get high for decades. Until they invented good Marijuana.

You seemed to have completely missed the point of everything I said.

You just proved my point about prejudice. You blame not getting high in the 70's on miracle grow instead of crappy genetics. Did you even read the first post on this thread? Doesn't sound like it.

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And you completely missed MY point which was just making a bit of a fucking JOKE.

Believe me, we got "plenty" high back in the day. Average Mexican was miles way better than it is today, more like good mids. Columbian, Panamanian, Kona Gold, Thai etc as we got it back then would stack up with most anything today.

Lighten up friend I am not prejudiced on the subject one way or another. You just seem to want to argue about something.

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And you completely missed MY point which was just making a bit of a fucking JOKE.

Believe me, we got "plenty" high back in the day. Average Mexican was miles way better than it is today, more like good mids. Columbian, Panamanian, Kona Gold, Thai etc as we got it back then would stack up with most anything today.

Lighten up friend I am not prejudiced on the subject one way or another. You just seem to want to argue about something.

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Thought you were being serious at first. I'm not trying to argue, misunderstanding

I used to get "Lamb's Breath" every once in a great while back in the late 70's early 80's. Was the first awesome weed I ever had, don't know what it was as far as genetics but it was top shelf back then and I thought somebody had laced it with something the first time I saw it because that was the first trichrome covered bud I ever saw. I used to get Panama red for $30 an Oz. QP's for $100. Then came the drought in the early 80's and when the drought was over the prices were double. I remember joints going from $1 to the famous "3 for 5" back when people would sell a joint. Now people are paying $20 a gram in some cases, talk about inflation.

From $1 to $20, that's like 2000% inflation if my math skills are correct. How is that even possible?

MG was the only thing we had back in the 70's and it worked well for us.
Dr. Jekyll

Why would anyone still use that archaic crap when you have so many brilliant products such as Advanced Nutrients
Mr. Hyde

I am sorry if you get mad but I am not buying your trophy story.
I have seen friends use Miracle grow, starts off great but ph problems and yellowing in the bloom cycle do to not having the calcium.
I mean.. why?

Surprised no one mentioned "Peters" fertilizer, another common fertilizer available everywhere. My knock on these ferts is the salts build up quickly, acidifying the soil. When used, flushing often is usually necessary.

areyoukind said:

I am sorry if you get mad but I am not buying your trophy story.

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What trophy story?
Who is mad?

Dr. Jek & I are cool cats, Mr. Hyde is another matter. He seems to get off into these prickish zones. Just wakes up most days with his ass rubbed red raw and it does not improve from there.

Anyway we have some fun around here, don't get your panties all bunched up. Good information and sarcasm can be hard to sort out here

Keeps ya sharp you know?

I am not trying to be rude and noticed that you just joined the fourm...
Read the label on Miricle grow

Cautions
This product poses minimal risks to humans or animals so exposure is not a significant concern.

Fertilizer Analysis
24-8-16

Image using 24-8-16 near the end of bloom..lol .

fertilizer is fertilizer. I don't like mg numbers they are to far off for me to use them. and I don't like mg soil. because it contains time release fertilizer / how to you flush soil that has time released nutrients in it ? you will never know if you got it all out. mg is cheap. nothing special about it at all. but yes it will work but not the best . and you willl not get major yield like other brands. mg is designed for flowers and shrubs roses so on. if your trying to get every last gram of yield then you have to have the best number fertilizer at the stage mg cant achieve that. no feeding table.

Yeah I agree, you can not really flush Miricle grow...
I have herd Danny Danko talk about Miracle grow on his pod cast, I am sure if he new someone gave him a dow chemical joint he would be pissed.
Check out the Free Weed podcast

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Soil Flushers... seriously.... MG Soil Flushing ....

Lol.. bet MG buds burns like a lump of cole! Here Danny...try this stuff its called MG Gold Cole...

kinddiesel said:

I don't like mg soil. because it contains time release fertilizer / how to you flush soil that has time released nutrients in it ? you will never know if you got it all out. mg is cheap. nothing special about it at all. but yes it will work but not the best . and you willl not get major yield like other brands. mg is designed for flowers and shrubs roses so on. if your trying to get every last gram of yield then you have to have the best number fertilizer at the stage mg cant achieve that. no feeding table.

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1) Not all MG soil contains time released fertilizer. Just because it says it will feed plants 3 months does not imply that it is packing fritted or chelated compounds. You might want to look those words up.

2) Marijuana IS A FLOWER. Glad we agree on that as you said MG is designed for flowers.

3) you have to have the best number fertilizer at the stage mg cant achieve that. no feeding table. - ​OK Care to explain this nonsense?

I am not going to argue with you... "hey if it works, I guess use it...
Seriously though... "think about your health, yes Marijuana is a flower... but Miracle Grow I am sure is not thinking about someone smoking there ferts.
"Hey feeds up to 3 months, Only feed once"

areyoukind said:

I am not going to argue with you... "hey if it works, I guess use it...
Seriously though... "think about your health, yes Marijuana is a flower... but Miracle Grow I am sure is not thinking about someone smoking there ferts.
"Hey feeds up to 3 months, Only feed once"

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Fine brother. MG and Monsanto is not tuned into your health whatsoever and you should know that. Look like I am supporting them here? The fertilizers sold by them are the same ones as are being sold to you by Advanced Nutrients for many dollars more per gallon, or per effective doseage.

it appears it would be great for veg/start of bloom and maintaining mothers....i mean those photos really speak for themselves