Should the US shed blood for Ukraine

Should the USA along with NATO defend Ukraine with troops.

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 40.4%
  • No

    Votes: 59 59.6%

  • Total voters
    99

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
well we don't have to worry about the Chinese being involved, guess who's imbeded witht the Russians.....


ta da
If Vlad is gonna flood Ukraine with the kinds of "troops" I saw in the back of that truck, most will end up streaming into western Europe begging for food like refugees in a couple of weeks! The truck was filled with men pressed into military service from reserve units using obsolete and worn out equipment. I saw old men there in their 60s and 70's and a kid who flashed a peace sign along with other guys who were clearly not soldiers.
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
If Vlad is gonna flood Ukraine with the kinds of "troops" I saw in the back of that truck, most will end up streaming into western Europe begging for food like refugees in a couple of weeks! The truck was filled with men pressed into military service from reserve units using obsolete and worn out equipment. I saw old men there in their 60s and 70's and a kid who flashed a peace sign along with other guys who were clearly not soldiers.
i did to...and imo it's a puff piece (basically saying look at all these men young and old willing to go to war for mother russia or should i say the united russia party), the apc that drove by in that, wasn't decorated with the Z
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
i did to...and imo it's a puff piece (basically saying look at all these men young and old willing to go to war for mother russia or should i say the united russia party), the apc that drove by in that, wasn't decorated with the Z
Dunno, I heard Vlad was gonna throw in the kitchen sink, if he does, it will be a nightmare for them, if this is an indication of their quality, these are useless mouths to feed. I believe the Z might be applied as the move into the country, it will take a lot of time to assemble this force and their officers are probably alcoholics. Dropping vodka on them would be more effective than dropping bombs! :lol: Millions of plastic 1 liter bottles of 180 proof vodka on little parachutes dropped like cluster bombs...
 

ANC

Well-Known Member
Dunno, I heard Vlad was gonna throw in the kitchen sink, if he does, it will be a nightmare for them, if this is an indication of their quality, these are useless mouths to feed. I believe the Z might be applied as the move into the country, it will take a lot of time to assemble this force and their officers are probably alcoholics. Dropping vodka on them would be more effective than dropping bombs! :lol: Millions of plastic 1 liter bottles of 180 proof vodka on little parachutes dropped like cluster bombs...
that shit makes them bulletproof, those russians with the deep voices are just built differently.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Inebriation is the classic cure for the realization that “crap, this is Russia”.
Vodka will become expensive and there a many alcoholics in Russia and perhaps many dry throats in Ukraine... Seriously, large stocks of alcohol that their troops have access too would be a major problem for their officers and cause some units to go completely to shit.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Vodka will become expensive and there a many alcoholics in Russia and perhaps many dry throats in Ukraine... Seriously, large stocks of alcohol that their troops have access too would be a major problem for their officers and cause some units to go completely to shit.
Forty years ago Soviet aircraft deicer was straight alcohol made by hydrating ethylene. There was a lot of evaporation from the refinery to the flight line.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Forty years ago Soviet aircraft deicer was straight alcohol made by hydrating ethylene. There was a lot of evaporation from the refinery to the flight line.
I remember reading the Aquarium years ago by a former GRU spy. When he was a young officer in the red army they couldn't figure out how their troops were getting drunk all the time, until someone squealed. They filled the trucks cooling systems with alcohol and used to crawl under the truck and open the radiator drain valve at the bottom and let it pour into their mouths! These vehicles used ethylene glycol and water for anti freeze normally and I don't imagine they were well flushed...
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I remember reading the Aquarium years ago by a former GRU spy. When he was a young officer in the red army they couldn't figure out how their troops were getting drunk all the time, until someone squealed. They filled the trucks cooling systems with alcohol and used to crawl under the truck and open the radiator drain valve at the bottom and let it pour into their mouths! These vehicles used ethaline glycol and water for anti freeze normally and I don't imagine they were well flushed...
The antidote as always was more ethanol. It bunged up the enzymes that made glycol toxic.

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Budzbuddha

Well-Known Member
Peace through Vodka! They will be too drunk to fight!
‘Russian soldiers have zero need for alcohol as they loot what leftovers from stores , villages , etc.

I was gonna post a story on what “ Drunk Russian soldiers “ did to a 11 year old girl. Alcohol looted from the area and the soldiers “ being bored “.
Necessities important to the civilians there ( food , etc ) , which already are in dire need , the Russians take .

Fuck the russians regardless if old or young sent from VLAD . Word has it land mines , mortar fire and small arms are becoming a real hazard as civilians flee various regions. I’m still hoping an international “ mercenary “ group of pilots and fighters will enter the western flanks before area becomes choked off. Russia was noted wanting to bring in Syrian fighters to buffer the forces on the ground.

We need our own “ special military operation “
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
‘Russian soldiers have zero need for alcohol as they loot what leftovers from stores , villages , etc.

I was gonna post a story on what “ Drunk Russian soldiers “ did to a 11 year old girl. Alcohol looted from the area and the soldiers “ being bored “.
Necessities important to the civilians there ( food , etc ) , which already are in dire need , the Russians take .

Fuck the russians regardless if old or young sent from VLAD . Word has it land mines , mortar fire and small arms are becoming a real hazard as civilians flee various regions. I’m still hoping an international “ mercenary “ group of pilots and fighters will enter the western flanks before area becomes choked off. Russia was noted wanting to bring in Syrian fighters to buffer the forces on the ground.

We need our own “ special military operation “
true, Ukraine has it own "special military Ops" and it called the Legion all volunteers they're ranks are up to about 40k right now and growing
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
‘Russian soldiers have zero need for alcohol as they loot what leftovers from stores , villages , etc.

I was gonna post a story on what “ Drunk Russian soldiers “ did to a 11 year old girl. Alcohol looted from the area and the soldiers “ being bored “.
Necessities important to the civilians there ( food , etc ) , which already are in dire need , the Russians take .

Fuck the russians regardless if old or young sent from VLAD . Word has it land mines , mortar fire and small arms are becoming a real hazard as civilians flee various regions. I’m still hoping an international “ mercenary “ group of pilots and fighters will enter the western flanks before area becomes choked off. Russia was noted wanting to bring in Syrian fighters to buffer the forces on the ground.

We need our own “ special military operation “
That is a hazard with drunk Russians, but in some places and cases it could be used as a weapon to degrade their units.

Everybody is getting set up for the big show in a few weeks when Vlad gets his mighty army there and NATO supplies weapons and training to a million man army, plus millions of partisans. It is wonderful NATO had literally millions of soviet small arms and other weapons close by that they needed to dispose of, perfect for partisans, they are familiar with them and they can use captured Russian ammo. Convoys of trucks are amazingly still delivering them and other shit all over Ukraine, even to the eastern parts close to the fighting along with military advisors and commanders.
 

Budzbuddha

Well-Known Member
Seriously….

I’m sure we have So called Top Gun pilots or NATO that could be sent ( then denied about ) . It angers me that we look down on special ops being initiated. We could literally reconfigure ordnance for those MiG fighters - MOAB / Sidewinders / AMRAM .

Even Vulcan Rotary cannons.
 
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