This thread is great! I have been whipped with the hot wheels track, but never by my parents, just cousins and friends. My dad used a belt if I really needed it. Now I'm an adult, and a father. My son will always know I love him more than anything in the world, I would literally kill for him if necessary. He also will always know that if he steps over that line, he's gonna get swatted on his ass. It's going to hurt. I don't like it any more than he does, but my job is to raise a young man. I don't think anyone here is condoning child abuse, but if you think that a good old fashioned spanking is child abuse then chances are you're raising a kid who isn't going to understand consequences.