Shrooms - Brain Bleeding?

Friend of mine tried to tell me magic mushrooms make your brain bleed and that's what gives the hallucinogenic properties. This sounds just like people trying to say X eats holes in your brain (complete bullshit, for those who still actually believe that).

your friend is retarded

Rumor is the chemical compound found in magic mushrooms, give you psycho-active food poisoning, thats what the trip is.

Hah....what an ass.

The drugs the mushrooms produce is called psilocybin and psilocin.
This is what makes you trip.
Just as Cannabis produces THC.

a bleeding brain causes hallucinations? No, I think a bleeding brain causes a person to talk out their ass about how other drugs work.

Just like the oral diarrhea I hear about how marijuana makes you high but cutting off oxygen to the brain...

It's a shame how stupid people can be

No, shrooms don't do anything of that nature. Very natural, as long as they were grown/harvested correctly. Have known quite a few people to go to the ER.... but they deserved it fer the dumb shit they did...

LSD, XTC, those can do some bad things, but it's not as bad as some say. LSD just gives you flashbacks every now n' then if you do it enough.

XTC though..... fuck man, way too many friends have gone down hill cause they rolled too much. I'll do it once a month. Four pills at a time, will only eat Molly. Haven't rolled in months though.

But yeah, some friends of mine are like zombies now, and when they roll, they're outta commision fer days, as opposed to feelin like shit fer an hour or two the next day. They just walk around drooling, looking at the floor, mumbling every thing they say fer 2-3 days after a good night. Sucks hardcore when you waste all your seratonin(no idea how it's spelled, but that's what it sounds like )

Yea, lately most the "LSD" that comes around here is LSA... if I go on a plane flight, or see huge vastness of nature I have flashbacks.

Okay. This thread is full of all kinds of wacky stuff. I think maybe I should speak out and clear up a few things.

Magic mushrooms (psilocybe cubensis) do not make your brain bleed. At all. Ever.
Mushrooms also are not poisonous, believe it or not. Everything in this universe is toxic in large enough amounts, even the citrus in an orange. A "lethal dose" (or the LD-50) of that psilocybin (of which it's all converted to psilocin in your body) is too much for any human being to consume. You just can't eat that many shrooms, no matter how much you can stand the taste.

LSD cannot hurt you. What it can affect is your mental state- usually for better, but not always. LSD can be incredibly positive for a person, as long as they are psychologically and emotionally stable. If you know what you're doing, and you have the perfect set and setting, you're almost guaranteed to be fine.

"Flashbacks" are not quite the Vietnam-style flashbacks you hear about, which is usually post-traumatic stress disorder. "Flashbacks" from psychadelics are actually called Hallucinogenic Persisting Perception Disorder (or HPPD, for short), and while far from being unheard of, is NOT common. However, even one does experience HPPD, it's nothing to worry about.

You know how when you sometimes smell things and it reminds you of a certain VERY vivid memory? Well, this is what HPPD is. Something you experience later reminds you of some thought you had in your altered state of mind, and you partially enter that state of mind for a moment. You're remembering; it's just that this particular memory happened when your perceptions were completely altered. Doesn't last for but a few moments, and it always goes away for good after a little while. It doesn't interfere with everyday life (even though there are occasionally visual effects), and is more of an annoyance than anything. Most people never experience any symptoms of HPPD.

I can't believe all of this bullshit false information that's so widespread in our society. I blame Reagan, mainly. So many blatant lies have been spread about these drugs (and marijuana) to villify them, and keep them illegal. I mean... how many of you are D.A.R.E. graduates?

~Ethno

You know how when you sometimes smell things and it reminds you of a certain VERY vivid memory? Well, this is what HPPD is. Something you experience later reminds you of some thought you had in your altered state of mind, and you partially enter that state of mind for a moment. You're remembering; it's just that this particular memory happened when your perceptions were completely altered. Doesn't last for but a few moments, and it always goes away for good after a little while. It doesn't interfere with everyday life (even though there are occasionally visual effects), and is more of an annoyance than anything. Most people never experience any symptoms of HPPD.

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Couldn't have put it better myself.

Last summer my friends and I did a fair amount of acid (we got some really primo shit from Niagara Falls, Ontario if that helps you, Dankdude) and had an equal number of mushroom trips. Suffice to say we've experienced no blood clots in the brain, even after the night we all ate a quarter ounce of top shelf shrooms each. Things got really intense some nights, but we're all fine now.

I've had a number of acid flashbacks since then, but nothing serious. Bottom line if you can handle tripping on acid for upwards of eight hours, you can certainly handle a fleeting flashback. My experience with these flashbacks was that my mind was acting almost exactly as it was while on the drug (racing from one conclusion to another, feeling caged up screaming for escape is the best I can describe it) for anywhere from a few seconds to one or two minutes but there were no sensory hallucinations whatsoever. I attribute the flashbacks more to the powerful memories of the experiences than the toxicity or quantity of the drug.

As time progresses these flashbacks are generally becoming more and more sporadic and lasting for shorter periods each instance.

From my readings of Erowid, I'm led to believe that MOST recreational drugs (at least the ones I'm inclined to ingest) are of lower toxicity than cigarettes, alcohol and even fast food. Mushrooms, THC, mescaline, LSD all need to be taken in RIDICULOUS amounts to be physically harmful to the average Joe. That said, heavy acid use can lead to psychological stress and possibly even damage IMO.

As far as Ecstasy goes I read a case a year ago about this guy in England who had a 25 pill a day habit. He kicked it almost cold turkey from what I remember with a short relapse but he's been clean for a few years and is being monitored by doctors. They've so far found no evidence of any lasting damage other than seemingly random short-term memory failure less severe than that experienced by a chronic pothead.