Skywalker F7 autos in a tub

FirstCavApache64

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They look better each time you post. I would seriously be thinking about jamming some supports in on that tall one. I think if you support them early enough it triggers them to put on extra weight. I try to with mine but it can be hard to find space since I like to angle mine out. Keep killing it man.
 

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Yeah, they are really packing on girth and mass on all the exposed colas...the two plants I have on the ends of the tub have central stalks that are around 8 inches tall, with flower sites all along their height...that are all gonna run together and be a honkin chunk ‘o weed...

the Si I’ve been adding really added strength to the stalks so they are holding the weight of the flowers well. I undid a couple more LST restraints today to give them room to grow upwards. Some “tacoing” of leaves in a couple spots so dialed the LED back to 75%.

ph 6.0 water today and tomorrow, then a shot of Recharge on Wed, followed by a day or so of water again. they are into the sprint to the finish, and want them to suck as much nutrients from the soil as possible for a while before the phosphorus loading begins with GH Ripen and Koolbloom. I have some FF Sledgehammer for a flush I might use soon too...

did a clean up of damaged/discolored leaves...from 4 plants I took just 2 leaves. Everything else is lush green.image.jpg43F84AA7-4ACA-48A1-930D-F50C49B48C64.jpeg8D501EBC-ECCD-4D85-B5F5-636F7AE5CD71.jpeg3EF3EE8D-3BAB-46F2-B60A-2079C8B39EAB.jpeg459E2E36-8418-4F00-BB5F-55AB204B7A99.jpegFDAF94D8-3A95-4622-9C77-284C81A9D27C.jpeg69BD2D23-7B11-4AF1-B4DE-043AB10530FD.jpeg600622C3-D733-40D0-AB62-4531F90D9546.jpeg1EE726A5-A386-49F7-934B-24C6D3CB4E1E.jpegDCBA88A9-87A4-4796-BF85-805F9CD1E440.jpeg
 

FirstCavApache64

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They sure do look nice, what kind of smells are they putting out? Should start to stink up the place if they aren't already. I don't miss having to mix up all those chemicals at all, it's nice to just fill up a jug from the tap and water them. However, I sure wish I was getting the kind of speedy growth you were. I've been on 18/6 since week 2 so between that and the organics I'm guessing that explains my slow start. I'm usually running 20/4 and AN salt nutes so I'm used to seeing way more progress by now. That's great that the extra SI has gotten them that strong. I know it helps but I've never given it in large enough doses or regularly enough I guess. I used Rhino Skin from AN and it helped some but on thin stemmed plants genetics wise I still had to use bamboo in late flower. More stout branched indica plants were good. The pistils really pop on the pictures can't wait to see them as they start to get trichomes.
 

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Just gave them .8 l of ph 6.2 water each; will give them a good dose of Recharge in a couple hours. My hope is just water yesterday, and a good dose of water to start this morning will saturate the roots, force them to suck up some more of the nutrients in the soil, and clear the way for the Recharge to boost the microbial activity. That’s the plan at least...

the smell is starting to develop. Slight whiff when ya come in the house, and gets stronger as ya get closer to the grow room. It is pretty heavy in the room itself. I have a 6 inch in line fan (filter outside of the grow space) I have not turned on yet; probably close to that time although I obsess over the smell a lot less these days. I also have an ozone generator I can deploy if it gets overpowering. I also burn some citronella candles in the grow room which helps with the smell and might ward off some pests although there is no evidence of any unwanted critters.

I pulled the rest of the LST restraints that had the lower branches laid out horizontally, so they are free to grow into whatever shape they want now. I kinda achieved a mainline without topping or FIMing...should be some good pics of the bare plant and branches growing at 90 degrees to the main stalk after harvest.

Trichromes are showing on all the sugar leaves and getting thicker by the day, and some of the pistils are starting to wither and turn brown, so we’re in the home stretch...just a wild guess at this point but looks like I might be right at the breeder’s claim of 65-70 days from seed to harvest. Based on a 22 Oct start, should be done between 26 Dec and 31 Dec. I will prolly go a week beyond that just to make sure they are ready. then off to the dry/cure cabinet for 8 days and into a CVault for a month. The earlier harvests that are inCVaults are smelling and tasting wicked fucking awesome!

next run will prolly be Creme de la Chem from DC Seed Exchange. Assuming an early Jan 22 start, should be done around end of Mar 22, just in time to get my outdoor crop a head start indoors before they go outside on 1 May 22. Debating now on whether to start the outdoor plants at 20/4, or emulate normal daylight hours for 1 May - sunrise 0610, sunset 1954 for 13:43 hrs of daylight.

all is well, life is good, and I’m livin large!


 

FirstCavApache64

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I'm loving the recharge, probably one of the few products I've used I can say I see a noticeable difference with. My schedule is getting pushed back with the bubba trouble going so slow but I think I'm going to run photos next run and then autos for outdoors this summer. I just bought some Anvil seeds that can get pretty big, 5-6 feet in large pots and I have the Nite Blood autos that get big too so I think I'll run two of each of them. Creme de la chem sounds good, like a fast finisher too.
 

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I like the circular hoops you are using - where did ya get them?

are these photos or autos? Either way, with prolly another 6 weeks of flowering you are gonna have some monsters! Please keep me updated on these - I’m thinking of some Blueberry autos in the future. If ya have a grow journal point me to it and I’ll subscribe, pull up a seat, stoke up a blunt and learn...
 

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1 liter of full strength Fish Shit today. It takes around 2 liters to get runoff from the bottom, so I’ll give them another liter of ph 6.0 water in a couple hours to get the whole biome saturated, then tomorrow is probably a dry day. Dry days are though cuz my inclination is to hit them with something else, of which I have many options:

Fox Farms mixture as they call for on their website
Mammoth P
Great White
Fish Shit
Cal mag
Liquid bone meal
Terpinator
GH Armor Silica
Purpinator
Superthrive
Molasses
GH Ripen
GH KoolBloom
Recharge

My bathroom looks like the lair of a mad scientist...

focus from here is leaf tucking, defoliation of damaged leaves and those inside the canopy that are not getting any light. I think I have another month to go so lots of opportunity to pick from the menu above for feeding. The GH Ripen and KoolBloom call for use in the final 2 weeks of flowering so the phosphorus loading will start then.

usually at this point I get some signs of a calcium deficiency but not on this run so I must be doing something right...
 

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Dank Bongula

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I like the circular hoops you are using - where did ya get them?

are these photos or autos? Either way, with prolly another 6 weeks of flowering you are gonna have some monsters! Please keep me updated on these - I’m thinking of some Blueberry autos in the future. If ya have a grow journal point me to it and I’ll subscribe, pull up a seat, stoke up a blunt and learn...
I always think about starting a grow journal and then I get halfway through a cycle and realize I did not start it. These are photos. Last time I ran them, they flowered for about 12weeks so still a ways to go. The hoops were 42in tall tomato rings that I chopped off right at the first hoop. I should have chopped after the 2nd hoop further up because towards the end most of the flowers were all flopping over and I had to yo-yo them up. This time I am making more of an effort to keep them spaced around the outer ring. If this does not work, I will try the next run using the cut portion with two hoops.
 

FirstCavApache64

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The nice thing about your side lighting is how much light penetration your getting all the way down. It's such a great setup, if I could swing just two more feet in width I'd be all about trying it out to fill in my lower buds.

I love the tomato cage idea. I tried using a much smaller cage a couple years back in a 5 gallon pot and my results were mixed but I didn't train the plants for it either. I've been sticking with 3-4 foot support poles and lots of coated wire and pipe cleaners for the heavy girls but it spreads them out a fair bit which is tough in a 4*4 tent. I miss blueberry strains, it's about time for me pop the bag of oranges x blueberry hash plant seeds I have that dissapointed me so much outdoors this summer. So many choices, too few plants allowed..argh!!
 

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The plants were showing some signs of light stress - tips of leaves turning brown, and some “taco-ing”. I rewired everything this morning and put all the T5 fixtures (four fixture 4 foot on back wall, six fixture 4 foot pointing in from the front, pair of two foot 2 fixture from the sides angled in at roughly 45 degrees) on a separate timer. All the T5s are running 3000k bulbs.

the overhead LED runs from 0500 - 2300 (18/6)
the T5s run from 0600 - 2200 (16/8.)

I’ll start reducing the T5s gradually if I need to. My assumption is this will mimic natural conditions - stronger intensity in the middle of the lighting period as the sun reaches overhead.

closer to harvest (prolly in 2 weeks) I’ll rewire everything again, and put the pair of two foot T5 fixtures on a separate timer and switch out the four 3000k bulbs for 10,000k ones:

Overhead LED 0500 - 2300 (18/6)
Four and six fixture T5s (3500k) 0600 - 2200 (16/8.). This might get adjusted downward over time.
Pair of two fixture T5s (10,000k) 15 min/hr between 1200 - 1600.

I ran the 10,000k bulbs on my last indoor grow at 15 min/hr for much more time, and the plants were scorched so dialing it back this time. Four cycles at 15 minutes each in the middle of the lighting period might be the sweet spot; we’ll see...

I also have a collection of HID lights collecting dust now that were used previously I could swap in:

600 watt CMH/HPS
250 watt CMH/HPS (I have a pair of these)
150 watt CMH/HPS (I have a pair of these)

Never give a retired engineer too much time to think about something - the solution might be needlessly complicated.

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Here they are with all the lights on; I also have a 6 inch in-line fan running on the same schedule as the T5s. Dominion Power gonna love me for the next couple of months. it’d be interesting to compare their overall demand in VA pre-legalization and post...

they got a liter each of ph 6.0 water a couple hours ago - following up now with a liter each of ph 6.3 liquid bone meal and Si. I also need to work in a foliar feeding of Flowers Kiss - I usually only give plants that treatment once during their grow. FF schedule has that 3 times in their schedule.

you can see that there is a LED T5 in the four foot 4 light fixture; there is also one in the 6 light fixture directed inwards. I put the LED ones in just to add another intensity/spectrum of light in the mix.

like the face of the sun in there...

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Your plants looking good and stacking up nicely!

Here's those blueberry I've been mainlining.
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2 weeks into stretch so far. All lower bud sites removed from each cola
Are you giving them any Si? I’ve been working it into the feeding schedule a couple times a week to stiffen the stalks and protect the foliage. It worked really well for me - I had some LST clips on branches I bent out from the main stalk and into the light. I took the clips off a week ago, and the bent branches have pretty much kept their shape which is why I have like a skirt of flower sites out in the light on the lower part of the plants...all stuff that woulda been hidden inside the canopy. I’m all about getting the plants as much light as I can.

this is from my summer grow - tied the main stalk down horizontally early on and ran it along a dowel affixed to the top of the milk crate. Grabbed everything else that grew from the point of the bend and directed it either the other way, or at 90 degrees to the dowel. Wound up with some pretty cool plants...

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Dank Bongula

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That is a wild contraption haha! I water in some Si once a week, mammothP, and then later in flower around weeks 5-7 I add some kelp or recharge. That's about it. I try to keep it as simple as possible
 

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It was fun growing them...im using the same stuff as you...

also been working in fish shit the day after Recharge - they seem to love that.
 

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I don’t miss this tree. It blocked the front of my house from sun all year long. Since it’s now gone, I also have a growing orchid garden. My GF works at Lowe's and when the flowers fall off the ones they sell, they send them to the trash. These were almost all rescues...
 

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Dank Bongula

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Right on....I forgot that fish shit too but only use it if I feel I fucked something up and need to green those bitches back up. I grow in amended pots of ffof and try to let the soil handle everything without adding much extra.
 

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Maybe one or two photons escape, but not many more. Foam core boards covered in Mylar closed up the opening above the six fixture T5 light...temp holding at 77. They are directing back into the enclosure reflected light at around a 30 degree angle.image.jpg
 

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This is the view at ground level. The training of the lower branches to grow horizontally is apparent, and the side lighting has really filled the plants out all the way at the bottom of the canopy. 70 days from 22 Oct start is New Year’s Eve. Whoppee!

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