TrueMarleyMan
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Thank you Alexander
So you noobs are hooked on cannabis specific Bloom foods (aka snakeoil)..... eh?
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Uncle Ben
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These days high shipping costs is a deal killer for many items I'm interested in. When the shipping costs more than the product, I do without. Think I paid around $10 for a couple of tubs from PA to TX. Really not too bad.
This is helluva nice elemental profile for any tropical. http://www.jrpeters.com/Products/Jack-s-Classic/Citrus-FeED.html
11 elements, triple chelated Fe. Well balanced NPK that will take you from start to finish with cannabis. Can't be it.
The2TimEr
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Just got my Peters order in - Blossom Booster and Citrus FeED. FWIW, I think I found the Holy Grail for a complete, start to finish fertilizer. It's Jack's Classic Peters Citrus FeeD, a new 20-10-20 product. Compared to their popular Blossom Booster it has more Mg, 1% versus .50%; more Fe which is tripled chelated (EDTA, EDDHA, DTPA) to take into account any kind of soil chemistry, .15% versus .10%; 4.9% sulfur where the Blossom Booster has none, and more of an acidifying affect. 11 elements in all which I could recommend for coco and perhaps soil-less too. Caveat - more does not necessarily mean better. It's all about the balance. For example, this 20-10-20 will produce more yield versus someone hitting their plants with a low N, high K or P food.
Will you be doing any journaling of your grow with using the products UB? I'd love to watch
Soil growers should check it out. What that formula suggests (based on my knowledge of cannabis nutrition and soil chemistry) is a greener plant (think Fe, S, Mg) with less stretch (low P) and an excellent NPK balance to support foliage, roots, and flowers.....a perfect one shot nutrition solution. No Weight Watchers program for this bendejo!
The N profile is 2% ammoniacal N, 3% nitrate N, 15% urea, which adds up to an acidifying affect.
Uncle Ben
Will you be doing any journaling of your grow with using the products UB? I'd love to watch
Uncle Ben
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Will you be doing any journaling of your grow with using the products UB? I'd love to watch
I've journaled at a dozen sites over 15 years until I'm blue in the face. Answer is probably 'no'. This is one such journal - https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/9114-spin-out-chemical-root-pruning.html
TrueMarleyMan
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Is shipping really that bad?
The2TimEr
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Not sure if anyone has ran this stuff by you before, but here in the UK, grabbing something like peter's is gonna be hard to say the least after i done some searching.
Baby bio is a range of very cheap fertilizers and on this link, i have just noticed they also do a citrus feed, which is used in the flowering phase with high potassium.
If you scroll down to the 4th product on that page, the houseplant feed. It provides seaweed and humus, with an N-P-K ratio of 10.6 - 4.4 - 1.7 - You can see the citrus feed there aswel, 2nd one down: http://www.greenfingers.com/superstore/category.asp?dept_id=200411
What are your thoughts on these being combined uncle ben?
I used the baby bio house plant feed on my first ever grow back in 2007 when i had no clue what i was doing , i just used the baby bio on it's own, from veg to chop and it produced excellent results. No bloom food at all.
Baby bio is a range of very cheap fertilizers and on this link, i have just noticed they also do a citrus feed, which is used in the flowering phase with high potassium.
If you scroll down to the 4th product on that page, the houseplant feed. It provides seaweed and humus, with an N-P-K ratio of 10.6 - 4.4 - 1.7 - You can see the citrus feed there aswel, 2nd one down: http://www.greenfingers.com/superstore/category.asp?dept_id=200411
What are your thoughts on these being combined uncle ben?
I used the baby bio house plant feed on my first ever grow back in 2007 when i had no clue what i was doing , i just used the baby bio on it's own, from veg to chop and it produced excellent results. No bloom food at all.
TrueMarleyMan
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Hey UB when ya gonna do some short strain indicas?
kinetic
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Yes, but you may find what you need at like amazon too.
also check this part of their site http://www.jrpeters.com/Support/Find-a-Retailer.html
You may find a more local retailer and get them to ship it to you for less. Or you may find a regional retailer and fit it into a day trip. Always nice to get out the house and experience life, even if it's only a two hour radius of where ever you may live. Good Luck
Uncle Ben
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Sorry, but I don't like the way the English/Dutch do business regarding their plant foods. Use a balanced NPK to be safe. High P induces stretch, high K induces Mg and N deficiencies.
PJ Diaz
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Really? You like all that Urea Nitrogen. I don't really get their labeling system, but they seem to contradict themselves on that page you linked:
They clearly list 15% urea in the N profile, and then state "High nitrate nitrogen, moderately high potential acidity and no urea"
That doesn't make much sense to me.
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Uncle Ben
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Write them if it bothers you so much.
Uncle Ben
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Would love to do some indicas. Closet things are TrainwreckXSweettooth and Peak19. The Cambodian pheno really showed on the Peak19 I grew outdoors. The high was creeper stuff and very potent.
PJ Diaz
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I don't use it, so it doesn't bother me. I was simply pointing out an inconsistency.
Uncle Ben
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There is a personal consistency on your part to troll my posts, tear down. Not to worry, I emailed Peters today regarding their clerical error. Some of us are here to make things better.
UB
PJ Diaz
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Not trolling. Please report back with your findings my friend.
Uncle Ben
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...Gracias!
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homebrewer
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There is a science to this hobby and believe it or not, a little knowledge and a few different plant food products from your local nursery will give you better results than any high-priced, glossy labeled line of pixie dust that is currently offered at your hydro store. People like UB are just trying to give you some insight, but I doubt he honestly cares how you spend your hard earned money as you're free to travel down whatever path you *think* works best.
This is my own cross; Dumpster x Jamaican with no bloom foods (day 30):
burgertime2010
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I just realize that the science is constantly moving forward. My recipes are dynamic and strain specific and work extremely well. I am open minded to make the choices that produce the top shelf product that is my singular goal. The insight I take from him is to remain trapped in the 80's with a mediocre product while being dismissed at the same time. I gave him his dues but just get tired of the self serving "help'" that litters this forum. Without pictures these are just words....I put in my time, done my homework, my efforts speak for themself. Nice pic.
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