I hear you...
BUT I am a newb... and not really a gambling man...
I XEROXED Fuct's op... and it worked...
I am NOT about to put my 1g/w at risk...
If someone has enough "know how" to convince me.. I'll try something...
But up until this conversation... I HAD NEVER QUESTIONED THE USE OF h2o2..
I had NO REASON to try something different...
But when more experienced growers (like LB) tell me I am wasting money... I HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION...
I do not like paying out... I am tight tight tight with money...
But yeah.. now that I question it.. a test will be done... so I can rest assured my money is not being wasted...
1-2 days and 5 pages of post later i see ya still dont get it.
didnt bugs just break it down for ya?
nobody said anything about
wasting money. its all about efficiency and what ya need and dont need. this is why Al B fuct stressed that he will not design anybody OP or hold hands because everybodys OP is different in one small way or one big way or one another.
this wasnt al b fucts way originally. he will tell you that someone taught him on the inet years and years ago and that is he paying it forward. and he would say that over and over again. Al also admits to being stuck in his ways and not going on experiment missions....but he did do experiments when he felt like it....but other than that he will tell you, he doesnt have time for trial and error....he wants what is tried and true. I, however, on the other hand like to burn my hand on the stove and see how i can increase increase increase increase productivity. And its nothing wrong with both of mindsets....as that is how the community keeps growing....one goes with the tried and true and some others are inventing new shit or coming up with new means. With all that said, i hope people dont think im talking shit about al b fuct, cuz he is one of my mentors...im just hardheaded and like to test the waters myself
furthermore, again this is always why you would never ever see Al B holding anybody hands or accepting PMs. Sure he would answer questions in thread and help the best he can, but he isnt going to design everything for you.
No 2 Ops will be identical unless you are in the same location (water consistency) with 2 different flowering rooms or so. This is another reason why AL B drew up the blueprints, but werent very strict.
Either his mentor taught him about air pumps or either he threw them in there hisself.
Once you have forced air injection, you are inviting air borne pathogens to get into your hydroponic reservoir. This is also what causes pH to fluctuate and EC to go wild!!!!
I, however, dont use air pumps for the previous reasons stated. I'd rather use COLD WATER, mechanical force, waterfall, and fast moving water to create my DO.
Al B would notice slime, gunk and other types of buildup and pathogens in his res because as i said before warm water will give pathogens a nice breeding ground. That (air pumps) mixed with warm water reservoirs brought on the problem and He wanted something that could nix it. This is why he used/started using h2o2....
im sure if Al didnt have a pathogen problem, he would not use. Al is sorta commercial, he doesnt have time to be buying shit, if he didnt need or 'as a just in case measure'. Plus Al also knows that Flood and Drain is less susceptible to dieases and such because roots dont actually hang into hydroponic water like other hydroponic systems, but instead in E & B, the roots are in pots/containers, filled with medium
This is what was the problem gypsy....you thought you NEEDED to have pathogen control. Why add extra equipment/nutes when you dont have pathogens? This is what me and bugs were getting at. I dont use air pumps, and i keep my res covered...they are a cold 64.5F and water is kept moving.... i dont have pathogens, so i dont have the need for 'pathogen' control
also just to pull your leg.... you didnt exactly xerox AL's OP because he believes in canna products....even used root stimulators and bloom boosters. matter fact he even took advice from people who would tell him that the dosage ratio for pk13/14 was wrong....you on the other hand claim you want to listen and learn, yet all you do is flash your pics with some kinda smart-alecy remark and say 'damn i dont see a deficiency'
This is why me and bugs bang our head to the brick wall, Gypsy. This is what we are talking about selective reading, smart assery, etc etc. This is why. Another example is the last few post, you said 'well, why aint nobody come out and just say that. coulda been that simple'.....yet when me and bugs do try to explain it simple...you accuse us of not going into detail enough....its like we cant win
but we still love you
take that! and now imma have to take a pic of roots......ought to be fun.
.........call my roots not lovely...boy i tell ya
