States and Abortion

mudballs

mudballs

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The nurses, the people that file paperwork, the fkn cafeteria ladies...the city council members...it goes all the way up. They all get a say. That's why roe vs wade was overturned. Im sorry...the web is too extensive to be able to separate the individual
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
mudballs said:
The nurses, the people that file paperwork, the fkn cafeteria ladies...the city council members...it goes all the way up. That's why roe vs wade was overturned. Im sorry...the web is too extensive to be able to separate the individual
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and yet you demand that the individual act separately. Thank you for expressing one of the serious weaknesses of the reasoning behind your opinion.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
The nurses, the people that file paperwork, the fkn cafeteria ladies...the city council members...it goes all the way up. They all get a say. That's why roe vs wade was overturned. Im sorry...the web is too extensive to be able to separate the individual
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So if all of those people "get a say" and vote to gain majority support, what about the people who disagreed? It's now ok, because at least they "got their say", or you think that everyone has to agree?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
The nurses, the people that file paperwork, the fkn cafeteria ladies...the city council members...it goes all the way up. They all get a say. That's why roe vs wade was overturned. Im sorry...the web is too extensive to be able to separate the individual
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Arguably all of the support staff and cafeteria workers know what sort of business they choose to work for when they came to work that day, and if they disagreed they would work elsewhere? I have to do things that I personally disagree with at work, but I know that I am making the choice to do so when I leave for work. If they did abortions at my job, maybe I would decide to work elsewhere.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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Hey man im not the one you gotta convince. Think of us as an ant colony and communally they've decided no, we will not be a society where you can just walk in and kill one of our unborn.
Now i acknowledged a female has the inalienable right to abort, it's when other human energy gets involved the waters get murky.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
Hey man im not the one you gotta convince. Think of us as an ant colony and communally they've decided no, we will not be a society where you can just walk in and kill one of our unborn.
Now i acknowledged a female has the inalienable right to abort, it's when other human energy gets involved the waters get murky.
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But as a people colony, we've communally decided yes. It's just an elite group who says, no.

www.npr.org

Poll: Majorities oppose Supreme Court's abortion ruling and worry about other rights

56% of Americans disapproved of the decision in an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll conducted after it was announced. A similar number say it was motivated by politics — not law.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
Hey man im not the one you gotta convince. Think of us as an ant colony and communally they've decided no, we will not be a society where you can just walk in and kill one of our unborn.
Now i acknowledged a female has the inalienable right to abort, it's when other human energy gets involved the waters get murky.
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Then flying a private jet should be illegal too because it infringes on my air quality, and I don't want them to affect my human energy.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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That's the way i see it, ive chewed on it...inalienable rights and an avatar like mine? Yeah i spend time on this stuff
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
That's the way i see it, ive chewed on it...inalienable rights and an avatar like mine? Yeah i spend time on this stuff
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Did you ever have a job that did something or sold a product that you disagreed with? If so, what was your recourse. If not, you are lucky.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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Nearly every thing ive done to get where i am has been something i didnt want to do pj, or be involved with. Fack the stories i could tell you. This will not help this dialogue.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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PJ Diaz said:
So if all of those people "get a say" and vote to gain majority support, what about the people who disagreed? It's now ok, because at least they "got their say", or you think that everyone has to agree?
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Those that disagree are now a minority, congrates you've created a new ant colony. Click here to name your new ant colony.
Natural order, just need a majority. If all women in a group say "bitch this is what we believe" then that's what gets signed off in perpetuity...Russia, Japan, India...all a single ant convinced enough ants to think and act a certain way long enough you pretty much have human socioevolution occuring...ours sucks but i understand something...there is an unadulterated primordial fire underneath it all that only the absolutely most powerful can sway. You got some Ghengis Khan in ya?...do ya?
I know i dont...i squabble with my postal driver and get bent.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
mudballs said:
Those that disagree are now a minority, congrates you've created a new ant colony. Click here to name your new ant colony.
Natural order, just need a majority. If all women in a group say "bitch this is what we believe" then that's what gets signed off in perpetuity...Russia, Japan, India...all a single ant convinced enough ants to think and act a certain way long enough you pretty much have human socioevolution occuring...ours sucks but i understand something...there is an unadulterated primordial fire underneath it all that only the absolutely most powerful can sway. You got some Ghengis Khan in ya?...do ya?
I know i dont...i squabble with my postal driver and get bent.
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Repugs fail two rudimentary tests of adulthood.

1) they fail to subordinate instinct to reason, a necessary but insufficient condition of maturity.

2) they fail to subordinate the individual to the community with a glaring and detrimental exception: religion, the enemy of self-actualized people worldwide. The result: their massive social cruelty.

While I would like to make their systemic dishonesty point number 3, it is not really an adulthood parameter. It’s in the more general class of just plain evil action.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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mudballs said:
There should be something in place for women...if you make that decision then fine, but its gotta be by your own hand. Via pill, or physical manipulation we must remain bystanders. Only then does she retain her inalienable right without treading on another humans rights
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perhaps there are others that don't mind assisting her (in fact there are, many, many of them) and do not feel like their own rights have been impeded in any way?
then your suggestion would just be asinine and petty...so say you want a vasectomy, but the doctor doesn't want to give you one, are you then required to perform it yourself? :roll: how about a hemorrhoid operation? same deal?
how about people just mind their own fucking business and keep their personal mythology to themselves?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
Nearly every thing ive done to get where i am has been something i didnt want to do pj, or be involved with.
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But those were choices you made, right? No one forced you did they? You could have walked away with your pride, no?
 
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