Stelthy's 600W Hps Project! (New-Cab)
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stelthy
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It stops the Helicopters FLIR guns from seeing the Infra Red heat signature that certain grow lights give off and also hot areas in rooms etc etc.. Use as much as you can.. ie cover the complete cab, and the area above and around etc so walls behind it, loft space above etc etc, the plastic sheeting is black on the outside and white on the inside and is infused with a metal substrate that inturn erases the heat/Infra red signatures the feds like to pick up on....
However NEWS FLASH.. They are now using a newer technology that detects loud in-line fans etc...and they can tell the difference between a normal house fan and a 'Grow' fan, even from up in a chopper, however.... I believe its only the 12"+ size that full industrial "illegal" growers use, so a dimable 4" - 8" in-line fan 'Should' be fine.
I also use sound proofing (Accoustic sound mat, & Dyna Mat) to more or less silence the noise of the in-line fan and air movement
...its always about taking precautions and thinking ahead...........................well ahead! Hope thats helpful
- STELTHY 
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Hey Stelthy,
How well did that Cardboard box work for drying inside the cab? I'm going to be finding myself in a similar situation soon since i'm starting flowering tomorrow. Those minor light leaks seem to affect anything? Worried about air flow as I won't have the fan on the bottom.
How well did that Cardboard box work for drying inside the cab? I'm going to be finding myself in a similar situation soon since i'm starting flowering tomorrow. Those minor light leaks seem to affect anything? Worried about air flow as I won't have the fan on the bottom.
stelthy
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The Cardboard box idea worked well for me, the box had downward vents cut into it and they were barely open 0.5mm each (x4) but the design/idea only really worked...I think... because of the fan underneath. If you had a spare CPU fan laying about and an old mobile phone transformer you could hack the transformer to power the fan and then just elevate the box and CPU fan slightly and could achieve the same thingHey Stelthy,
How well did that Cardboard box work for drying inside the cab? I'm going to be finding myself in a similar situation soon since i'm starting flowering tomorrow. Those minor light leaks seem to affect anything? Worried about air flow as I won't have the fan on the bottom.
The light didnt seem to effect the potency of the drying buds (in cardboard box) and they all tasted good too, I know legend has it that the buds should receive 0% light when drying.... and I agree! ..But sometimes things cant be helped and custom adjustments need to be made in this case all went swimmingly well, lol - STELTHY
Psychedelic Breakfast
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Thanks,
Yeah now that you say that I remember I've got an old CPU fan I never got to use on my pc I'll see if I can rig something like that up.
Either way I love the idea
Yeah now that you say that I remember I've got an old CPU fan I never got to use on my pc I'll see if I can rig something like that up.
Either way I love the idea
alright ive seen the grow. I just cant find were it tells me what you yielded off of this man.. How much did you get off the great white and the strawberry thai. That drawer looks really good man. Anyway I got ahold of some cash. Imma build my very own stelthy grow cab.. Or atleast try... I honestly am not a DIY person
stelthy
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I yielded 9.3 oZ off the Great White Shark, and the Strawberry Thai and the miniature Random Seed, if I recall the GWS = 5.1 oZ, S.T = 2.9 oZ and the mini random seed was 1.2 or 1.3 oZ
Fully dried and cured Yeah it was nice waking up to a chest of drawers full of buds instead of a drawer full of socks etc I also managed to make a just under a Q of Ice Hash from all the trim, and a pipe to taste test the new buds out of the plants main stem I look forward to seeing your cab... Please send me a LINK when you do, it'd be cool to see what you do! Before this cab and my 2 previous cabs, the only thing I'd ever made was a speaker box for a mates car....But when your really into something and it fully captures your imagination... the skies the limit - STELTHY
stelthy
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Lol
Yeah I have built "5" Cabs in total so far I'll post a few pics of each below as a comparison 
This is the remains of my 1st ever attempt at a cab, I ran a 150W Envirolite CFL, a 5L Res. drew air in via a washing machine hose from a small hole in a boarded up chimney, With the exception of the basic reflector that I cut down with tin-snips and the bulb... I custom made and fitted it all together... It started life as someones Kitchen Cupboard..But I saw potential, and rescued it from being taken by the refuge collectors. I grew erm.... Afgan Kush Ryder and Jack Herer if my memory serves me correct
the Ryder was only 19" tall but still gave just under 2oZ and the Jack Herer turned into a 37" monster that had huge buds (although quite airy) and that gave me just over 3oZ. Well now ya've seen my 1st ever cab.. Now onto my 2nd Cab.. 
This is my 2nd Cab I made, its a cheap office cupboard that I converted, I ran a mixture of lights but mostly I ran 2x 90W LED UFO's and a few different wattages of Envirolite CFL, ie 125w, 150w.....Whatever happened to those?, and 250w. I grew Jack Herer and a Skunk/Cheese cross. I cant remember what weight I pulled however judging by the size of the Jack Herer I am sure I would have been quite happy... and I remember the Skunk/Cheese Cross fuckin stunk 'Hard-core'
* This was an attempt at converting my 2nd Cab into a 400W HPS setup...however my fan was to small and heat was to much of an issue... I was pretty skint at the time and couldnt afford a new fan, and wanted to 'Pass' on the idea of downgrading to a 150W HPS with Hacked ballast, I kinda wish I had tried it though
I then sold the cab to a mate and did it up for him... He now runs a 250w Envirolite and just grows 1 plant at a time, and is doing quite well... However since I never used this 400w setup I cant really count it..
This is my '3rd' Cab, 4th if you count the 400w attempt (above)... A few more pics for this one but theres a lot to cover
.. This is the Cab I am sticking with! But I still have some great ideas and improvements I could make... Or I could build for a mate or summink. It can run 250w, 400w, and 600w - (peak Winter months only) it is fully kitted out but does (at this stage) 'Lack' Co2.... But when I can finally find some 6" fully air-lockable electronic dampers I will add the Co2... Summink to look forward to eh?!! So far I have pulled 9.3 oZ total (dry weight) from this Cab and have just started my 2nd grow in it 
And this is my "5" Cab.... (1st Cab Modified and decorated) I decided to use up a load of the 'spare crap' I had laying about the place and make a "5th" cab out of it
The idea was to use up all the old parts and get rid of the Cab which was taking up space, and my Mrs wanted a clutter free house, and I also knew I could make a profit on it to so I did it up and sold it to a mate!At this stage I am kinda lost, as far as making Cabs go... I have a real passion for making them and thats why I have helped other RIU members build Cabs Via the net, I look forward to building another one but as for when - who knows
.... Lol ..Hope you've enjoyed my History lesson
- STELTHY
stelthy
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They are good fun to build and you can make them to cover your every need, and for alot cheaper than you could buy one on-line for.. But they are time consuming if you want them perfect! (like me). If you do buy one please send me a LINK so I can see what you got and for how much?
cheers - STELTHY http://www.supercloset.com/index.php?c=category&m=index&d=4
these are the ones im looking at but their really expensive and look cheaply made. Im also looking at the bcnl products.. they look alot better but they cost like 3 times more.. Heres one im looking at getting on my budget right now. http://www.bcnorthernlights.com/indoor-hydroponic-grow-boxes/the-bud-pro
there is no prices on the bcnl website. I had them send me a price list of everything. That one is i believe 2700$. Still not sure if im gonna just build on or buy one..
Specs and price on the bud pro bcnl product
The Bud Pro is 36 inches wide by 72 inches tall and 24 inches deep. The Bud Pro enables you to vegetate and flower your plants right from seed or clone to a fully mature plant. We give you step by step instructions showing you exactly how to do everything. Once the plants have reached 7-8 inches tall on average in vegetation stage you flick a switch to finish the flowering process. With the Bud Pro it will enable you to harvest 12 fully mature plants every 10-12 weeks, cropping around 1 ounce per plant. All machines comes with step by step instructions showing you exactly how to do everything.
The Bud Pro grows 12 plants and harvests every 10-12 weeks. It comes standard with co2, carbon filter, hydro, water and air pumps, HPS bulb along with a 4 month supply of nutrients and rockwool for $2000
these are the ones im looking at but their really expensive and look cheaply made. Im also looking at the bcnl products.. they look alot better but they cost like 3 times more.. Heres one im looking at getting on my budget right now. http://www.bcnorthernlights.com/indoor-hydroponic-grow-boxes/the-bud-pro
there is no prices on the bcnl website. I had them send me a price list of everything. That one is i believe 2700$. Still not sure if im gonna just build on or buy one..
Specs and price on the bud pro bcnl product
The Bud Pro is 36 inches wide by 72 inches tall and 24 inches deep. The Bud Pro enables you to vegetate and flower your plants right from seed or clone to a fully mature plant. We give you step by step instructions showing you exactly how to do everything. Once the plants have reached 7-8 inches tall on average in vegetation stage you flick a switch to finish the flowering process. With the Bud Pro it will enable you to harvest 12 fully mature plants every 10-12 weeks, cropping around 1 ounce per plant. All machines comes with step by step instructions showing you exactly how to do everything.
The Bud Pro grows 12 plants and harvests every 10-12 weeks. It comes standard with co2, carbon filter, hydro, water and air pumps, HPS bulb along with a 4 month supply of nutrients and rockwool for $2000
stelthy
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The Bud Pro 12 planter sounds good... I am going to check out those LINK's shortly
- STELTHY Yeah it looks good bud i really think i might be able to build one cheaper. Its made out of a medal cabinet too. I think that it would over heat to much.. Idk.. and i think that if i got this cabinet it might produce more then one that I could build myself. Cause honestly I dont know shit about it.
stelthy
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Hmm.. its nice and clean and looks good to Veg in BUT!! its way to small to Flower anywhere near 12 plants you'll be lucky to fit 3 mature plants in there, and seeing the size makes me think that $2000.00 price tag is more than a little steep... I could help you make the same one for under $700.00 ...well under
If your looking to Flower between 6 and 12 good sized plants, and aren't to good at DIY, prob the best option would to be to go for a Large Grow Tent and just buy your lighting and nuits separatley and you'd still spend way less than $2000.00 I'll try n find a LINK to the sort of tent I am talking about - STELTHY okay a link would be nice. But the thing with the whole tent thing is I need complete stealth. And I dont have a whole room to put it in.. can grow tents be put outside? like in a garage or something.. Only thing i can think of that would hurt it is it gets really cold were i live.. and really hot in summer. if i can put one outside and maybe figure a way to control temps.. I think i might get one..
stelthy
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Hi Shortcutt, Here's a LINK to the type of tent you'll need for upto 12 Plants:-
http://www.hydroxpress.co.uk/grow-tents-stands/45-the-extra-large-grow-tent.html
This is the kind of size you'll need.. there are also ones available with a divider in the middle so you can have one side Vegging and the other side Flowering... although good quality well thought out ones are hard to find so it'd probably pay you to have 2 seperate tents, one for Veg and one for Flower, the one above is only £375.00 inc Tax! Thats a pretty good deal and much much cheaper than the medical cab... and smaller tents are even less still, so even if you buy 2 and place them side by side you will STILL pay less than that Medical Cab and have the right ammount of room you need to grow 12 plants approx.
You could easily put the tents in a Garage, and you can buy duct silencers to muffle the air in/out-takes.. I would reccomend getting big in-line fan/s 8" should do fine.. and get nice big Carbon Filters so as not to risk any unwanted smells escaping
You can use a digital thermostat to control heaters and AC depending on the weather, once its all plugged in and configured, it will control the temps and keep them around 26oC ~ Perfect eh?!!
I can help ya, via this site.... Hope the above info is of some help to you
- STELTHY
stelthy
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Ok... Back to my Grow-Log.. I opened my cab this morning the 'Royale Haze' is doing well and has 2 baby leaves, However both the seed's in the DWC pot (Cheese), and the one in my heated Propagator 'another (Royale Haze)' have done precisely squat!
... I only need one of them to sprout.. So I can place it in the Cab.. I sure hope they hurry up I'll add more pics in a couple of days - STELTHY