Stelthy's 600W Hps Project! (New-Cab)

stelthy

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Today was the day I wanted to tick off - wiring the side and 3 grow shelf mounted CPU fans awkward job but never the less I am happy it's done now :) - STELTHY
 

stelthy

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I joined all the fans together so that once my Blue Thermostat is powered up my 4 CPU's will run cold and my 2 bar heaters will run hot a nice balance! Also I decided a while ago it was worth while to have shelf mounted upward facing fans..since plants feed from the underside of their leaves and the fans push both air and co2 up not only will the fans help keep the grow-space cool but will also help feed them boosting my control of photosynthisis :) - STELTHY
 

stelthy

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Oh and I tidy'd the wires and housed them in small pvc trunkin :) always better to be tidy :) - STELTHY
 

stelthy

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How much water do those rez' hold, they look a little small
Hi dude, they are 5l containers from ASDA, ..the same ones I used on my last grow sure their small but I am using smaller net pots this time, and I know that they are ok for the size ladies I am expecting this time, I may use bigger ones in the future but prob 10l max anyhow the last couple grew to 47" and budded heavily, the roots looked like a brilliant white birds nest upon finish but the buds where potent, big and well formed. Ill add a pic from my last grow underneath you'll see what I mean about the pots not being a prob :) - STELTHY
 

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This pic was taken fairly recently from my last grow, What I'd like to point out is I used the same 2x 5l rez. and my largest lady still reached 47" tall and budded heavily so 5l rez-tubs are fine for now...in the future I may use 2x 10l rez-tubs but for now I know 2x 5l will be fine :) - STELTHY
 

Essex

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You are a true artist with ya cab! That 600w is so extreme it's funny, ya can build well!

Like tom just said, ya rez looks very small and I would have thought it could prohibit full efficiency? or do ya use a header tank?

I converted a much smaller cupboard for my ex-gal with 20 x 11w cfl's then next time only used 6 of em and the yield wasnt that much better to justify the electric bill, may b completly wrong here??

Also I use a ultrasonic fogger linked to a humidistat to automaticaly control humidity in veg, works well with foliage feeding option? I only say coz ya look like ya into ya eletrical enviroment control in a BIG way like me!

+rep for ya extreme yet small grow!!!
 

howdyguhk

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nice to see this thread. Im planning a 600w soil grow in a 4x4x7 grow tent. I was initially worried about space, fitting the light + inline fan + carb filter, but looks like you fit everything in there.
btw I see that one of your plants is greatly larger than the other. is it because youre trying to do a perpetual harvest kind of grow? or did one plants genetics just fall flat?
 

stelthy

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nice to see this thread. Im planning a 600w soil grow in a 4x4x7 grow tent. I was initially worried about space, fitting the light + inline fan + carb filter, but looks like you fit everything in there.
btw I see that one of your plants is greatly larger than the other. is it because youre trying to do a perpetual harvest kind of grow? or did one plants genetics just fall flat?
The size difference was mainly down to the larger right one being Jack Herer from XXX Seeds and the smaller one on the left was a seed donated from a mate, dispite being way smaller the potencey more than made up for it :) Ps/ as long as you have a powerful expelair type setup to cool the 600 and remove excess heat from the room the 600 should work just fine :) - STELTHY
 

chainseeker

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Damn stelthy u the man! I wish I woulda read this before I built mine. Next time I will put a lot more into it I had no idea how good it can look. Props for helpin rocksteady with his also. Can't wait to see some little ladies in that sweet cab of yours. Oh and lifesgood can go to hell I love all the work you've done. My next cab will be so much better because of this thread.
Happy growing!
 

esc420211

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dude this is nice im starting a 5g 3 26 watt 5000k lights but i plan on upgrading to some huge 200 watters later on gud job and lifes good is a hater
first of all you can do watever tha fucc u want and who gives a flying fucc about a cabinet really and 600 watts is enough to support two ppls smoking id say
 

stelthy

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Ok today I plan on finishing the wiring and tidying of the top of the unit plugging in the ballast etc.. NB/ still got a stealth box to make for the top section yet may take upto a week but I will try and sort it asap! I will add pics this afternoon, hope everyone's enjoying my updates! I cant wait to have a couple of girls in there, but its better to get everything correct and take my time as apposed to rushing it just to grow some shit, the end results will speak for themselves :) .. QUALITY...then QUANTITY :) - STELTHY
 

stelthy

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I was out earlier at a factory-shop and by complete accident stumbled across some 10L rez containers lol, so I bought them, if I use them this grow round I will have to re-mod my grow-shelf :( so Ill prob save them and use them on my next grow :) - STELTHY
 

Essex

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I was out earlier at a factory-shop and by complete accident stumbled across some 10L rez containers lol, so I bought them, if I use them this grow round I will have to re-mod my grow-shelf :( so Ill prob save them and use them on my next grow :) - STELTHY
Ya know ya need em this round! lol

Its only "small" because you will get a PH/PPM shift in 1 day/night cycle, not because your roots take up all the space. I think a 1 gallon rez is a "non perfect" component in your PERFECT setup and could lower your max yeild.

But I would HATE to cut that wicked shelf up again aswell m8, I love the "420" soooo cool!
 

stelthy

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Ya know ya need em this round! lol

Its only "small" because you will get a PH/PPM shift in 1 day/night cycle, not because your roots take up all the space. I think a 1 gallon rez is a "non perfect" component in your PERFECT setup and could lower your max yeild.

But I would HATE to cut that wicked shelf up again aswell m8, I love the "420" soooo cool!
Ok for example say I was going to go crazy and tear up that grow-shelf and start again to get the propper sized pots in... What "L" sized pots should I realistically go for?? Another reason to do this is ... I will need to accomodate a bigger C02 cannister too.. and also there is still an annoying ripple in the middle of the Mylar. I was pretty pleased with the shelf and the pots have worked fine for me in the past..but.. if I want perfect results whats the 'LITER SIZE' I should be on the look out for? baring in mind I am sticking to DWC method not top watering hydro-pots the net pots I'll be using are smaller than kids yogurt pots, so plenty of room for roots. Write back soon cheers buddy from - STELTHY
 

Essex

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I have tryed a few different sized bubble pots, the genral rule of thumb for soil pot size is about correct, 5L for a 12/12 no veg, 10L few weeks veg, 15-25L 1-2 month veg. I once kept a mom in about a 60L big black bin for 5 months It looked like a small tree, trust bigger is better!

10L should be fine, it's TWO times the size ya did use and ya found that ok. Also a few times I have used a header tank and a pump in bubble pots to increase rez size ya could use to avoid cutting ya shelf if ya got a little water pump spare? but I would use ya 10L tubs myself for root space.

I am also concerned about ya Co2, do ya run the extractor fan when its on? as a good 6" inline fan will change the air in that room in about 10 seconds???
 

stelthy

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I have tryed a few different sized bubble pots, the genral rule of thumb for soil pot size is about correct, 5L for a 12/12 no veg, 10L few weeks veg, 15-25L 1-2 month veg. I once kept a mom in about a 60L big black bin for 5 months It looked like a small tree, trust bigger is better!

10L should be fine, it's TWO times the size ya did use and ya found that ok. Also a few times I have used a header tank and a pump in bubble pots to increase rez size ya could use to avoid cutting ya shelf if ya got a little water pump spare? but I would use ya 10L tubs myself for root space.

In that case I'll stick with the 10L rez-tubs and re-mod the shelf, it'll be a while before i get it done now though, unless I can borrow a drill off a mate in a hurry cos my last one set on fire lol, whilst cutting holes for the 3 fans:) anyhow... I use a boat engine-cyphone? pump to do my water changes and top-ups, I'll post a pic of that to avoid confusion in a bit :) That's a real good point actually about the C02 in my last unit I was only running CFL's AND LED UFO's so heat wasnt an issue...I could have the main fan turned off for for 30mins every morning (lights on) and the temps would not be an issue then the main fan would turn on and within a second or so the room was back at 26oC. I can now see that this is and will be an issue, can't believe i overlooked this important detail! the 600's heat is fucking mental! I can't see away around this problem any light on the subject or creditable info will be greatly received + rep many thanks - STELTHY
 

Essex

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Hehe tell me about it, Co2 is a lovely idea! but very hard in practice to pull off without air con!

I have been thinking about this problem for a while, I have a 600w in cool-tube in a 1m x 1m x 2m with 6" in-line and a 4" carbon filter and fan each with own duct but it still vac's the air in 30 sec :-(

I would have thought it imposable in your size grow to use Co2, but it depends how rich and mad you are?

You could try a "del-sol" or similar water cooled light fitting with huge rez/paddling pool in ya loft...............lol

Im making a mineral oil cooled light rig for my tent next grow, just to try to use Co2 without a air-con unit.

If ya got an idea im willing to try!!!!
 
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