Still no real sign of buds after nearly 3 weeks in flower????

Novicehomegrower said:

will probably be the end of july tbh .

happy growing

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Oops ... I meant to say end of July.. As am off on holiday on 16th Aug.. so looks like I might just do it .. Thanks again dude..

budfever said:

Just be patient, increasing the amount of darkness is not going to help it flower faster it will just hurt your yield.
They look fine, its not uncommon for a plant to take 2-3wks to start showing flowers.

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Thanks mate... sorry for the daft questions .. but its my first ever grow so I have nothing to compare it with..

Well now 3 weeks and 3 days since switching the lights to 12/12.. Looking slightly more promising. Still taking its time. Should I be watering every day and with nutes? At moment im watering every other day.

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Hello jsynicky, welcome to the wonderfull world of growing. I have had this issue when I first started growing and dont worry this experience will just let you learn more than If your grow was perfect, imho. Anyways, what were you feeding the plant before you started flowering and what did you feed it when you flipped the lights? also, what is the ph of your water and nute mix and ph of your runnoff. Also, do you have a ppm meter? Also, cannabis plant will grow tall fast for about 2-3 weeks after switching to 12/12. This is perfectly natural and is not caused by light but by genetics of the cannabis plant. Sativas will try to go through the roof at this point more than indicas. Also what kind of medium are you using? The leaves on your plant are not ok. They should be flat not swollen like your look. This could be caused be a ph imbalance of nutrient lookout. That is why I asked about what you been feeding it. This is probably why its taking so long to see anything but white hairs. Please explain all you are using and I will try my best to help. Peace, cannabisinamerica.

Thank you for the reply. My PH of the soil after watering and nutes is at 6.8. I have been feeding it maxicrop with seaweed extract sind a couple of weeks into veg. Soil .. not sure sorry was some compost from the garden center. I am not able to test the PH of run off as I dont have the correct tester equipment.

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no need to test ph run of in soil you will always get a different number its pointless. i suggest getting a digital ph meter tho for like 10 dollors just in case.

I think the maxi crop has an NPK of 5-5-5. I have just got some different plant food with an NPK value of 3-3-6. Do you think the 3-3-6 would be better? Should I hold off on the Nutes and just used water or do you think I should flush with tap water of PH7?

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Not testing the runoff is a mistake. Without a ppm and ph meter you will have no idea as to what is going into your plants. If you dont test the runoff ph and ppm you will have no idea as to what is in the soil if that is your medium?? what is the medium?? Maxicrop as I looked online is only seaweed and contains only potassium. This will not be good to use for your grow as you need all NPK in the nutrients and also micro nutes. BUT, your soil may already contain plenty of nutes to get you through the veg cycle as some are very hot like over 1200 ppm. If you keep flushing you will suffocate the roots. You must get an idea of whats in the soil, 200ppm or 1500 ppm?? If you dont know then you cant start to fix the problem. Yes the runoff will not be as accurate as a nute mix but it will give you an idea of what is going on in your medium. I also started this way and had nothing but problems because I was guessing. Also, never use full strength nutes in cannabis, those directions are for tomatoes and bellpepers not cannabis. We all have our opinions and ways to grow wich I respect fully, but you must know what wrong with a car before you can fix it! Peace to everyone.

Thank you for your advice. I amordering PH and ppm testers so will be able to answer a majority of your questions in a few days. Any suggestions on a good tester to buy?

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i would up your feed a bit mate, they look like they need some N.

I use hanna primo ppm and hanna ph meters. They are like 30 bucks or so each. I have seen that blue lab is prob the best but expensive. Mine work great and are prob the cheapest and will do the job. Make sure you get calibration solution packs or bottles as they are not calibrated when you buy them. Also you will have to transplant soon those bushes are pretty big for that pot. Once your roots dont have enough room to grow then the upper part (the leaves and buds) will not grow much. That is why you see your moms house plants after 10 years look the same size. Anyways bro check out general hydro ponics nutes. I use the flora series but they also have organics. They are not expensive and you do not need all the additives just the base nutes. Happy shopping and be carfull growing cannabis is addicting!! Peace, cannabisinamerica

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i would up your feed a bit mate, they look like they need some N.

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Is an NPK of 3-3-6 ok the? Shall I give half dose that is recommended on the bottle of go for the full dose? Of shall I stick to the maxicrop with seaweed extract that says NPK 5-5-5 on the back?

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CANNABISINAMERICA said:

I use hanna primo ppm and hanna ph meters. They are like 30 bucks or so each. I have seen that blue lab is prob the best but expensive. Mine work great and are prob the cheapest and will do the job. Make sure you get calibration solution packs or bottles as they are not calibrated when you buy them.

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Thanks mate. Ill look at the hanna tester. Regarding the calibration solution should i get bot 4 and 7 or just ph7?

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Also, should I feed with nutes every time I water?

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CANNABISINAMERICA said:

I use hanna primo ppm and hanna ph meters. They are like 30 bucks or so each. I have seen that blue lab is prob the best but expensive. Mine work great and are prob the cheapest and will do the job. Make sure you get calibration solution packs or bottles as they are not calibrated when you buy them. Also you will have to transplant soon those bushes are pretty big for that pot. Once your roots dont have enough room to grow then the upper part (the leaves and buds) will not grow much. That is why you see your moms house plants after 10 years look the same size. Anyways bro check out general hydro ponics nutes. I use the flora series but they also have organics. They are not expensive and you do not need all the additives just the base nutes. Happy shopping and be carfull growing cannabis is addicting!! Peace, cannabisinamerica

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I have had expensive and cheap PH meters and they all sucked.
My Hannah ph meter shit the bed after not too long. I bought a $12 ppm meter on ebay that still works 5 years later. I was using ph drops to calibrate my ph meter, then decided why not just use the drops?

I'm throwing both away and going back to organic soil. I'm tired of dicking around with ppm/ph.
I'll just water with plain tap water and add a tea every few weeks.

jsynicky said:

Is an NPK of 3-3-6 ok the? Shall I give half dose that is recommended on the bottle of go for the full dose? Of shall I stick to the maxicrop with seaweed extract that says NPK 5-5-5 on the back?

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I also have a feew that is NPK 4-3-8

Can anyone let me know the best of these to use for the flowering process and how often I should feed.

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You need both, you calibrate 7.01 and 4.01 on the ph meter and on the ppm its just one pack of 1382. So the 1382 is 1382 ppm and the meter when calibrated will match the 1382ppm. Other meters are different so just get whats recomended for your meter.

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You need both, you calibrate 7.01 and 4.01 on the ph meter and on the ppm its just one pack of 1382. So the 1382 is 1382 ppm and the meter when calibrated will match the 1382ppm. Other meters are different so just get whats recommended for your meter.

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Thank you very much for the advice. Also, regarding you saying that I should re-pot soon... Currently she is in a 3 gallon pot... should I go to a 5 gallon?

This is my first grow and I would not know where to start with the process of re-potting and would be very worried about stressing the plant. Any advice on the best method to re-pot a plant this size would be much appreciated.

I have just taken the below pic of her today. She looks OK .. but then what would I know... lol..

Well, if you day i should re-pot then I will look at doing this tomorrow. Will a 5 gallon pot be big enough?

One more thing, my friend,, a self confessed expert (hmmmm) came round and chopped some of the leaves half off as you can see in the pics. He says this will give more light to the buds. I hope this does not stress the plants though...


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jsynicky said:

also, should i feed with nutes every time i water?

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i am assuming you are going all organic? The nuts you have are[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif] for propagation as stated in the web site. The bottle you have is an additive and not meant for use as a base nute or micro nutes. You are getting by because the soil has nutes too. Just google nutrients needed for plant growth and then compare that to the ingredients on the bottle. To answer your question, the best way to water a container with medium in to water only enough for one day. This gives roots oxygen and when you water enough for 4 days then they have no oxygen for like 3 1/2 days. Also organics is much more forgiving than mineral base nutes but still you only need to feed every other other water. So feed water water feed water water feed. Then if you see plants needing something you know for sure you did not over fertilize and you can feed more. These plants do not need alot of nute at all. I use 1/4 of recomended dose and then go from there. Look for a three part base nute or 2 part base nute. When i used soil i used fox farm nutes at 1/4. Peace[/font]

jsynicky said:

also, should i feed with nutes every time i water?

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i am assuming you are going all organic? The nuts you have are for propagation as stated in the web site. The bottle you have is an additive and not meant for use as a base nute or micro nutes. You are getting by because the soil has nutes too. Just google nutrients needed for plant growth and then compare that to the ingredients on the bottle. To answer your question, the best way to water a container with medium in to water only enough for one day. This gives roots oxygen and when you water enough for 4 days then they have no oxygen for like 3 1/2 days. Also organics is much more forgiving than mineral base nutes but still you only need to feed every other other water. So feed water water feed water water feed. Then if you see plants needing something you know for sure you did not over fertilize and you can feed more. These plants do not need alot of nute at all. I use 1/4 of recomended dose and then go from there. Look for a three part base nute or 2 part base nute. When i used soil i used fox farm nutes at 1/4. Peace