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beardo

beardo

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What are stocks you like? what do the companies do and how much is their stock right now. why do you like that stock? how do you guys trade stock? what service or site do you use?
 
Balzac89 said:
invest money in land not stock.
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Land is only a good investment if you plan on being able to keep it and do what you want with it, I had thought about land but without property rights owning land seems kind of pointless, just like renting but the govt is the landlord.
 
Buying property is a good investment especially if you believe in hyper inflation.

I plan on buying a huge tract of land when I get the cash for a down payment atleast 250 acres.

I recently lost 500 bucks on one stock. Its a bad investment because you never know where the market will go.

Land will always be valuable.
 
Balzac89 said:
Buying property is a good investment especially if you believe in hyper inflation.

I plan on buying a huge tract of land when I get the cash for a down payment atleast 250 acres.

I recently lost 500 bucks on one stock. Its a bad investment because you never know where the market will go.

Land will always be valuable.
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What about if they start raising taxes to the point where you can no longer afford to keep the land? Or what if they take your land through eminent domain? what if they pump all of the water out of the ground so it is worthless? I think they will raise taxes to the point where no one will own property.
 
Individual stocks will get you in trouble. Mutual funds are the way to go.

It's all about diversification.
 
Diversification is a huge lie, no one makes any real money by being diversified.\

Find a company that actually produces something people actually want and need and doesn't have a lot of debt. Do not chase profits, invest in good companies that are growing with a trend and stick to them.

Agriculture is going to be big.
 
I'd suggest learning about the stock market first before investing. I used http://vse.marketwatch.com/Game/Homepage.aspx to learn about the stock market before i began investing for real. Virtual Stock Exchange allows you to invest virtual money and see what type of profits you can make. once you have learned what stocks are good through VSE, you can invest for real. VSE was created by the Wall Street Journal so it is a great resource for investing and it will also provide you with tips and tricks for investing.
 
The only good stock I could think of investing in is any Rx company or medical, land is good to buy but your going to sit on it for along time, investing in the net (facebook etc etc) is good if your going to buy big then sell quick cause all of that shit are fazes we go threw look at myspace. But the best thing to invest in gold thats what i invest in buy gold gold will never lose much value if at all.
 
Well my mutual funds that are diversified have made 10-15% return.

Keep buying those individual stocks in similar markets and watch you money go right out the window,

Those who are successful doing individual stocks are constantly watching the market and making changes.

I just sit back and let my money work for me.

To say diversification is worthless does not know much about the financial markets, and their fluctuations.
 
Who said Diversification was worthless? NO ONE that's who!! I said Diversification will never make you the big bucks, at best it barely beats inflation. I made an average of 800% last year by picking the right stocks, sold the majority of them this last April, the few I kept have pretty much gone nowhere since then, while I wait for QE3 to begin, then they should see a nice boost again.

10-15% returns are great, but not when Inflation is really around 11-13%.
 
ok I mis read your post my bad.

800%?? I have been trading for 30 years and have never heard of those returns. How long did you hold those stocks to see those returns? Day trading commodities? How consistently do you pull those numbers, something does not sound right.

Maybe an ipo? I have a regular full time job, and dont have the time to monitor individual stocks thats why I have my broker.

You also have to remember that this time you made 800%, but next time you may loose it all. Put your eggs in 1 basket will get you in trouble.

I consistently pull these numbers 10-15%, and isnt you inflation number slightly inflated? Im showing inflation rates now at 3.57%

I hope your not near retirement age.
 
Yes, I have time to day trade. Yes, next time I may lose it all. Even with Diversification you can lose a lot though.

OFFICIAL government massaged inflation is 3.6%. Remember that CPI does not include energy or commodities and it didn't used to include housing either, but since housing started deflating it has been included. They will do anything to make inflation look like a non issue. Start checking your grocery bill, save a years worth and then check them against new ones. You will cry. Also Official inflation numbers are highly influenced by rents, which is something that remains low in a real estate bust like we are currently in the middle of.

Wanna bet the Fed comes up with a new plan to purchase US Treasuries but they won't call it QE3? I am guessing it will happen by the August time frame, the Last of the QE2 happens during the first week of July. The market will probably fall precipitously after that, might wanna start buying put options now. Inverse ETFs look good too. demand for oil is subsiding. DUG over $32 might be worth taking if oil continues down. Of course it all will depend on the FOMC that is in meeting. Perhaps Helicopter Ben will hint at more QE or whatever Euphemism they use, if that happens wally street will let the buy programs go rampant and we could see a nice dead cat bounce, especially in the face of Greece's credit downgrade and the strengthening of the Euro every time they say they have a solution. When the Euro Strengthens, the dollar falls, commodities go up. You can make 3-4% a day doing this, but of course you need the time and the know how and have to be tuned into all the news and be paying attention which at times can be difficult.

Im not too far from retirement age, but today was a good day. I made $6k off a 2 day CAT Trade and CNX I jumped in at $46.60 the other day with 2000 shares. We shall see what Benny and the jets have to say after the FOMC meeting.
 
Don't know or care much abut stock but i accumulated 670 shares of nordson corp (ndsn) when i worked there, watched it drop to around 21.00/share about 2.5 yrs ago. Since then it went over 100.00/share .on may 1st it split 2/1
 
800%? That cant be right, thats insane! The only trouble with mutual funds is the amount of fees that seem to come with them. Even if the fund itself managed to get 10% you would be lucky to see half that. I use spread betting over here in the UK, no transaction fees etc which is pretty decent, but as its leverages ***% you can get overwhelming losses. I lost big time when Osama got taken out, oil futures plummeted :( I think the key is just to think in the long term, usually means safer returns.

Out of interest anyone here work in the finance industry?

Peace out x
 
Annaly Capital Management (NLY) is my largest holding. Bought a bunch for my IRA in 2006-2007...been a wild ride (as with most stocks since then), but NLY keeps paying me the huge dividends (and should continue to, as long as the Fed keeps rates low), so I'm happy with how management has weathered the storms in the capital markets over the last several years. I think I've collected over six bucks per share in dividends alone since I've owned it. NLY comprises almost 8% of my portfolio atm...and no other individual stock is more than about 4% right now.
 
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