Stoneslacker's new 250w micro hempy scrog Blueberry, Blackjack and Permafrost

KushCanuck said:

Flip time now if height is a concern for you Stone, you`re good to go now. The B Russian will go nuts after flip and you`ll be able to train them into place until week 3-4. Yankee`s right, she looks very good, not trained too early at all. The others could also flower now, you`re doing a nice job with your testers mate

KC

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Thanks bro. I would really like to flip now but I am still holding out hope for a couple clones to root so I am going to hold off for another week I think. Hoping to combine some LST and cropping to manage the B. Russian as like you, I believe she is going to go nuts once I flip. Can't wait to see it tho! Either way, clones or no clones, I will be flipping within 7-10 days I think. Just would like a couple clones of the B. Russian and Maz x GWS at least, in case one of them turns out to be absolute fire! Thanks for checking in on me mate, your experience and comments are always welcome! Peace

stoneslacker said:

Thanks DB. Ya the concept of mainline training is really becoming more and more apparent as the girls progress. Really starting see how even the growth is on both sides of the manifold. I'll be sure to check on your progress mate, if I can help feel free to ask, and I'm sure KC and Yankee would be happy to assist also, they both have alot more experience to offer.

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Thanks Stone, I appreciate it. I am 2 days behind on my week 5 update, been too busy to get up there and take pics. Havin a lot of fun and learning a lot. This is by far the most rewarding hobby i have ever had in so many ways.

DB

stoneslacker said:

Hey Dr. W. The mainline thread DB posted is the place to start mate. Lots of info there, but quite a few posts to search thru. Both KC https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/640014-kuckcanucks-cataract-kush-grow-3-a.html and Yankee https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/646028-mainline-wwxbb.html have great mainline threads with nice example pics to help guide you along.

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thanks dude, got me some catching up to do... lol

Darth Budder said:

Here is the one I liked.
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/542308-main-lining-thread.html

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again thanks mate!!

Alright! Made a modification to my ghetto cloner and added some perlite to the bottom. I think this has made all the difference. The first set of clones I took on the 10th and the 12th have not yet rooted, although I believe all 3 first tops are close to shooting roots. The second set of B. Russian clones I took on the 13th are both showing nice roots as is one of the NL x Skunk secondary clones. None of the Maz x GWS are showing roots but I think the first top I took is really close and should be nice and rooted in a couple days. I added the perlite about a day or two after taking the second set of clones and it really helped keep the moisture level nice and consistent.

Overview of the ghetto cloner



B. Russian twins



Lone NL x Skunk rooter


Transplanting these 3 tonight and hopefully at least one of the Maz clones in the next couple days. Depending on growth after the transplant I may even try to top and train these girls for 2. Peace

that's kinda what I do with them only mine are in rockwool cubes and still in the tray so just the hole is exposed to the moist perlite, think i'll bury them like you...

Hey stone looking beautiful my man!! I hear u about the 90* temps, it was 90-91 last week but felt like 100*. Anyway, I have a question to the thred? Has anyone ever grown g-13 pineapple express?? On seed finder says flowing time is 52-62 days... I'm now at day 70. Things look to still be growing cause I'm having to add strings to hold the weight of limbs!! I'm using a scope and looks like she still needs more time. Wondering if this may be due to all the training... Thoughts, anyone! Sorry to highjack ur thread man but I know I'll get the best advise in here!

Downinit said:

Hey stone looking beautiful my man!! I hear u about the 90* temps, it was 90-91 last week but felt like 100*. Anyway, I have a question to the thred? Has anyone ever grown g-13 pineapple express?? On seed finder says flowing time is 52-62 days... I'm now at day 70. Things look to still be growing cause I'm having to add strings to hold the weight of limbs!! I'm using a scope and looks like she still needs more time. Wondering if this may be due to all the training... Thoughts, anyone! Sorry to highjack ur thread man but I know I'll get the best advise in here!

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Hey Down my buddy is growing G13's PE right now. They average about 65 days in his flower room under 4 1000w HPS. She is a bit sativa dom so if you got an extreme sativa pheno she may go longer. These homemade beans I have are from his PE he tried selfing. Although I have noticed some SOG's and single cola plants do finish a bit faster so the training might have slowed her but not alot IMO.

Nice!!!!! Thanks brotha, that makes me feel a lot better!!! Thanks so much for the speedy reply too man! I'm only using 380w of led. Everything is healthy though. Ur mailing is insane bro!!! I'm still try to perfect scrog in DWC, but so far it's looking like 6 maybe 7 onces so I can't complain... Thanks again!!!

I'm going boating with some friends tomorrow, buddy has a nice fountain. Used to be a good time till I seen this video.
[video=youtube;rWqlFCQB8xU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWqlFCQB8xU[/video]

Haha. That video still makes me laugh!

My clones seem to do better with perlite too, I use the jiffy pots and perlite with an airstone and pump.

Ha ha ha ha that video always makes me giggle like a school girl stoney, fuckin love it!

Cool video mate. Feeling a little hungover right now but that did make me laugh

whocares100 said:

My clones seem to do better with perlite too, I use the jiffy pots and perlite with an airstone and pump.

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Are jiffy pots the expandable pellets like this? And do you keep a full rez with water to aerate? Sounds interesting who, I really think the perlite helped the clones to root and sounds like you have had success using it too. Would love to see some pics of your clone setup. Take care who.

eastcoastmo said:

Ha ha ha ha that video always makes me giggle like a school girl stoney, fuckin love it!

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Chipper Pig said:

Cool video mate. Feeling a little hungover right now but that did make me laugh

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Such bad karma to post that video and laugh before I went boating today. Buddy threw something in his lower unit today and had to get towed in from 2 miles out on Lake Huron. Longest 2 miles I have ever traveled, had sherrifs on our nuts "concerned for our safety" they claim, but as soon as they seen we were legit they motored out without a care whether we got back or not. Between the cops and breaking down I barely even got a chance to do anything other than get a nasty sunburn and near heatsroke. I really need to remember what a bitch karma is next time.

Well got some good news and bad news in the grow cab. Good news is out of 9 clones (3 each) 7 have rooted. Two of the NL did not root, the main top and one of the secondary ones. Both will probably still root in the next couple days but I do have 2 of the BR and 2 of the Maz to go along with 1 NL. I have weeded out all but one of the PE seedlings. If one of the NL clones root I still might get rid of her after what happened today....

NL x Skunk is the first to visit the infirmary. She split both of her new heads on one side and they were hanging by a thread. She is not very limber at all, and looks to be sensitive to training down. The other side shows the start of some trauma but no split thankfully. I am going to have to devise a way to support her damaged heads and still control her height as I'm not able to train the heads down at this point. I used a twist tie to brace both her heads tight to the branch in hopes she will reattach with little issues.





Maz x GWS is looking excellent. She is very stout and bushy, and her heads are developing decently. She is nice and green and responding to training very well. I am glad I was able to root at least one clone of this and more than thankful all 3 were good. I will drop one of these and a B. Russian to one of my buddys who is looking to retire a Nirvana Chrystal and a Serious Seeds Double Dutch that he is tiring of. Good news if either turn out real good as I will have future access.





Black Russian is looking very nice! She has really been a simple girl to train and has responded to mainlining smashingly. All 8 heads are showing very even growth and are bonding downwards nicely. Hopefully with some coaxing and cropping I will keep her even through stretch.




Group shot and the in flux SOG. Not sure what I am trying to do here, I know that I won't have room for all these. But that won't stop me from trying. I think that the PE will have to go and that will give me a few more configuration options. IDK if I flip early next week the clone scrog will not get very large at all which could be good and bad. I'll see how they look into next week and go from there. I think I am going to go on a nature hike and drop off 3 PE seedlings I have into the woods somewhere when the weather chills a bit next weekend.



Thanks for checking in. Peace all

Beauty so far stone. Sorry to hear about your training trauma but sounds like you were right on top of the triage. It does seem like some strains lend themselves better to this technique than others, even early on in the training. Glad to hear the cuttings have mostly rooted - I might hit you up for a Maz x GWS cutting one day

Looking great in there Stone, if you didn`t have to repair something in your first ML run, you ain`t learning . The girls are looking ready for flower nearly, look loaded with N. Keep it up mate! Puff, puff, pass ---> Purple Kush morning joints

KC

Im sure she will heal up just fine. Looks like youre doing a great job.

I have to agree with K.C., you're just not learning if you're not doing some type of harm. Funny how that works. I've noticed that with ML the plants have a special need for extra P as well as K. Working with a plant that has such little foliage to support it's vital functions with enough energy seems to put it in a spot of need for extra P & K. Follow me for a minute, I think the extra P for the roots to grow and uptake an amount of nutrients that a plant that's being robbed of all it's sugars and N stored in the leafs is pretty important, and a larger amount of K I found really helps with all the pinching, topping and bending of the girl to withstand the damage and bounce back without a problem. Of course silica plays a crucial role as well in keeping your plant healthy and resistant to the stresses. I know alot of you use P/K 13-14, I like to use R.O. HPK and G.O. Bio-Bud for the same reasons and have found applying such products in low doses during a long vegging period can play a critical role in keeping your girls growing on top and under the soil quite happily. After starting to experiment with such methods I was pulling out the root balls and noticing an explosion of growth in the root system inbetween Xplants. E.J. has a product called Meta K that is an organic potassium that also works very well for this type of use. I just wanted to spread a litle info I have been working on for a while and compiling. I'm sure you all know how this works, but I just wanted to remind of such importance of these vital ingredients in a plants metabolism. Take it easy everybody and the garden is mighty impressive Stone. Peace out.

Stone, I just use a folgers can like u do, I put a hydro basket in it and fill it with perlite and airate, I stick the clones in there, just an inch of water above the perlite, and life the basket to see if they have rooted, the perlite helps hold them up, when I use the jiffy pots, I use a bigger container, right now I don't have a lot going so no need for something bigger to clone

Good stuff SS! Those girls are getting big FAST!